The Awkward Silence - 2019-05-24 (page 1 of 2)

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12:13 AM

@Alex Well, someone has proposed the idea of a bot so we've asked him to specify some of the functions he felt it could do. He has listed three main functions at this stage: (1) Apple Support Search Command; (2) Auto Moderation; and (3) Chat Owner. The Auto Moderation function he cites as being similar to what your Bot does? The full meta post (if you're interested), is at:

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Q: Adding a Bot To Main Room

I have proposed this feature in Chat a while ago and haven't had any complaints but I wanted to ask the community before I add it. I have developed a bot and would like to add it to Ask Different Chat main room. It is open source and the plugin API is extremely simple so people can add their own...

discussion chat

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1:46 AM

@Monomeeth In this room there are bots that post every new question (both on the main site and Meta), and flags potentially bad comments. In other rooms I hang out it there are also bots that post Hot Network Questions, and related questions from other sites.

2:39 AM

@Monomeeth I'm just here for a minute, but we have a FAQ about the bot here: interpersonal.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/3377/…

the bot doesn't actually flag comments itself - just scans them, and if they match a regex posts them into this room, so users can check them out and manually flag if necessary

@EmC To add to that point, users can specify new regexes if they notice a pattern of troublesome comments

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5:31 AM

@Tinkeringbell Thanks for letting me know :) I actually saw the post featured in meta after writing that comment. When I have to write such a comment, I usually go on meta, type "back up answers" and try to find the most generic one, but this was discussed a lot lately ... I'll use the one you've pointed out for now on :)

Morning everyone! TGIF!

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6:51 AM

@avazula aloha

7:01 AM

olà!

7:13 AM

Morning :)

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8:22 AM

o/

\o

@Monomeeth we also have @Pseudohuman bot who can look up Wikipedia stuff for you (but I don't know exactly how this bot work as we don't use this bot often)

@Ælis Failed to parse response

@Pseudohuman I know, it's fine :)

@Ælis The server was not able to process your request.

8:26 AM

o/

@Magisch Seems like Pseudohuman don't want to salute you :p

I don't want to work today. I want to work on some stuff but I can't (because I'm waïting on some bugs to be fixed) and I don't want to work on the stuff I can actually work on...

I'm writing a new EDI delivery note forecasting system

and this old code is a mess and full of checks and magic numbers and undocumented

8:43 AM

@Magisch I never heard of an old code who wasn't like that :p

These young mages who won't appreciate the old ways of mystique arts.

@Magisch Do you see hieroglyphs?

There's a valve, you should rotate your whole desk 165 degrees.

And hold it like that for 5 minutes

. . . Don't look at me like that. I'm not the one who made the secret entrances!

Extroverted Main Man

9:12 AM

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Q: What to keep in mind when telling an aunt how wrong her actions are, without creating further family conflict?

In a few weeks, my grandparents will celebrate their 60th wedding anniversary by having a family dinner. My grandparents made 2 decisions about that dinner: To only invite their children and grandchildren. Grandchildren are not to bring their boy- or girlfriends. One of the boyfriends already h...

family conflicts netherlands

^ Sorry for the wall of text.

I don't envy that situation

Me neither. It's a mess. And I still want to strangle that aunt yet I've somehow got to get a hold of that feeling and have a reasonable conversation with her this weekend :/

@Tinkeringbell I don't think you can force her to come if she decides that she doesn't want to. Also, avoid acting like you are giving her order because that is the surest way to have her want to not follow the orders (I know I tend to do that a lot when my big sister try to give me orders)

Aunt, go make me a sandwich

Speaking of food

9:20 AM

@Ælis Ah. I rephrased the two points to reflect that those aren't orders from me, but my grandparents' wishes. Better? :)

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Poof! You're a sandwich.

@Tinkeringbell Yep, definitively :)

@Tinkeringbell still got time to look at my question?

@Termatinator I'll do it right now!

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9:24 AM

@ExtrovertedMainMan ah families. lovely aren't they?

Families are always lovely. Unless it's GOT.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Then it's too lovely. ;P

@Tink my most observant remark after reading the first paragraph is is Brat's family name Pidd?

You don't wanna know my LEAST observant remark. O.O

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Definitely.

@Tinkeringbell You might want to talk with your cousin to see how upset she is that her boyfriend can't come before actually talking to your aunt

9:35 AM

@Tinkeringbell family drama oO

@Termatinator Hmmm. I think most answers focus a bit on 'reaching out to your lost friend without invading his privacy'. Both seem to say that looking up his phone number (if you haven't been given it) is a breach of his privacy, and propose other ways of establishing contact.

Those are valid answers IMO.

one of my half aunts is that way

she always needs her kids along and will not accept any family event that isn't held at a kid friendly restaurant consequently

@Ælis Ehh. I'd rather not, because it doesn't matter with regards to my grandparents' decision.

It was my aunt that has been doing the pushing, not that cousin.

If I do that, I have 3 cousins from that aunt that I all need to have the same talk with :/

@Magisch Yeah, that would be the consequence of letting cousin bring her boyfriend: they will bring along Brat.

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@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ For what? Those 3 cousins? XD

9:39 AM

"Welcome to Party.GP! Please take the tour to get familiar . . . "

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ "And leave your Brats at home". Good point.

@Tinkeringbell My thinking was more: "maybe your cousin doesn't care as much" (and you can tell that to her mother)

@Tinkeringbell I'm not asking if I should call him tho, all other options were tried by me and the call was probably gonna happen, I was just asking how I should call him to get some news from him while not making him possibly angry

@Tinkeringbell lemme know when you get an answer that works to this because I'd like to hear it

Close the aunt's suggestion as "Primarily Brat-Based"

9:40 AM

@Ælis Hmm. And if she does care a lot, that means I'm stuck between two parties. I really rather just convey the message and be done with it.

We've just given in and I've used that to skip attending family events

@Magisch Yeah, if this weren't my grandparents 60th wedding anniversary, I might've skipped too.

because her kids are unforgivably annoying and I last got in a shouting match when I wouldn't let them have my cell phone to play games on

@Tinkeringbell Understandable

I do try to skip as much as I can involving that half of the family (excluding grandparents)

9:42 AM

@Magisch hmm, then they're at least not spoilt enough to have their own at age 3. I guess that's something

@Magisch Buy a Nokia 1100 and take that to the party.

@Termatinator I might write an answer for you later, but I should really be working now ^^

@JAD Or their parents told them to leave their cell phones at home

@Tinkeringbell unthinkable

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Those make good chewing toys!

9:43 AM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ lend them a game boy

Good for jaw muscles

@Tinkeringbell You obviously don't know our generation.

We'd rather carry it in our "prison wallets" than not carry it at all.

@Ælis Do it whenever you want, I appreciate all answers :)

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Cell phones (plebsbestek, translated 'plebeian cutlery') have no place at a restaurant table. If you really need to bring one along, you carry it in your purse or pocket, but you never ever take it out of there between entering and leaving the resaturant.

Since when has that stopped 3-year-olds o.o

@JAD They're 6 and 7 and they do have their own but their aunt doesnt let them have games

9:48 AM

@Termatinator That's kinda hard, because you can't really control his feelings. :/ That's why I think the other answers are not so bad: If you think calling him might make him angry, it's really better to not do so.

@Termatinator BTW, email is pretty safe AFAIK. That's how I get in touch with online non-random people.

So they snag phones from other people at any event and install games on them

I don't have games on my phone either, it's a old as hell samsung s5 held together by old age

How many times have you uninstalled Subway Surfer?

Or are they the Mortal Kombat type?

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I never found his email

Can't you ask others in your group?

9:50 AM

@Magisch Pro-tip: I fixed a similar kid problem ones by revoking the play store access to the internet on both 4G and Wifi.

@Tinkeringbell Would there be other ways to contact him then?

Then act all surprised when it won't install games.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I already did

@Termatinator Maybe not...

@Tinkeringbell That's the right mind

9:52 AM

But while I understand not knowing his whereabouts may make you feel really bad/unrestful... that's how internet acquaintances work. They sometimes just silently disappear, and there's not much you can do about it.

I play games like that too

Disappears for a long time

well, what would you guys do? I just wanted to know if he was alright or something might have happened

@Termatinator Just assume he is allright, very happy and busy with other stuff ;)

Because wondering about what might have happened is only going to drive you crazy.

for over a month? a week, sure, but we play daily so I start to worry quickly then

@Termatinator Yep, also for over a month.

And for half a year, and the rest of your life :/

You say you did eventually manage to contact him, did he tell you what happened?

9:56 AM

yeah, he had no internet for a long time

A month is really not that long, you're just a very kind person

I've disappeared numerous times from SE and for longer than a month each time

In fact, it'd be part of my definition of disappearing.

well, he was from being there daily for over a year to just suddenly gone

Still, next time, wait until at least around 50 days have passed. That rules out things like no internet etc.

My consecutive visits was 800 before going into the sunset first.

Don't go into sunsets, BTW. They suck.

10:12 AM

@Ælis just read your answer, pretty good and it answered my question perfectly imo

@Termatinator Glad you liked it :)

10:44 AM

@Tinkeringbell my phone is permanently out of storage space, also works

10:59 AM

@JAD That's an easier way, of course ;)

11:34 AM

@Tinkeringbell eh, it also stops me from updating apps, so there's that :/

That's a bit of problem...

And there aren't any that you can get rid of easily?

Well, I for one am sick of 21 megabyte YouTube updates

@Tinkeringbell not anymore

I currently have installed: google suite, tikkie, abn amro app, ns app. that's it

oh, and a music player

That's not much...

Time for a new phone ;)

@Tinkeringbell soon. This one does have a cracked screen, so I might replace it soon

11:38 AM

JAD going retro

@JAD Is your face pixelated IRL?

?

Gah nevermind

I'm not gonna explain a joke. Much less a lame one.

@JAD where them snor pictures at these days

@Magisch Sorry, I've been a bit preoccupied lately

if you do get the time again to post snor pictures do ping me please

11:45 AM

But I promise, in a few months time, I'll have a proper sunny backyard so I can make outdoors pictures

snor's my favorite snake

@JAD I want to see video of you running to catch snor before he escapes to the neighbor's yard! :P

In the meantime, this is a ringslang spotted by my gf during her lunch breaks at work

user image

@Tinkeringbell luckily theyre not that fast

very sssneaky

Imagine you're that neighbour. Now you have an inquisitve boa in your yard

perfect time for cuddles

yeah, htat's maybe not the best first impression

11:47 AM

Ah well, it's a boa. They're not really dangerous

unless snor has grown quite a lot since I last saw pictures

@Magisch she has, but not that much

@Magisch remember though that most people have very different associations with the terms "Boa constrictor" and "Python"

idk for me snakes have always been inversely proportional wrt. scaryness

the big snakes are always constrictors and unless they're HUGE they can't do anything to you

@Magisch My mom would move if we got new neighbours that let their snakes roam in their yard, I'm sure.

She didn't buy one of the houses her and my dad looked at before marriage because, I quote 'The guy had snakes and what if one was left'

@Magisch they can't do more than say a big dog could, sure. But almost nobody knows that

@Tinkeringbell I'd think the first reaction would be to ask them to keep the snakes in, right?

11:51 AM

@Magisch Nah, I'm sure she'd be looking for other houses ;)

From a few years of IPS questions, Tink's mom doesn't sound like she is easy to convince of something

I mean, if it was something disastrously venomous I'd probably have the same reaction, but some medium size boa nah

@Magisch All mom sees is a snake. ;)

If I had a house I'd have cats, so it'd be a concern if the cats decided to anatagonize the snakes

@Tinkeringbell Phobias eh

@Magisch if it were something Venomous, I'd be interested in the safety precautions. I know some people that always require 3 layers of separation from the outside world for their venomous snakes. Tank -> room -> house, all hermetically sealed.

11:53 AM

@Magisch Yep :)

@Magisch not necessarily phobia, ignorance

@JAD In that case it would probably be fine

you may look at a boa and think "not that big, and not venomous"

or "really that big, but therefore very slow and visible"

whereas someone who doesn't know jack **** about snakes just sees a big snake, probably even venomous. Does it eat humans?

11:54 AM

I don't know there is any species of snake that would eat a human given the chance under normal circumstances

probably not unless starved

There are cases of wild retics

in the right circumstances they are able to pull it off

That must be some huge ones tho

if you consider children, the list grows a bit. Probably burms, rocks, and anacondas that could do it.

not sure if they would

I guess it's mostly like with sharks: we taste bad, so no unless starved

hmm, never heard of that tbh

but I don't blame them :P

11:57 AM

most shark attacks are from sharks confusing us for something tasty and then going "eeeeewww" after one bite & taking off

thats why people survive those sometimes

would that be because of clothes?

I honestly don't know what exactly it is, but it's something with our body composition, no clothes

curious

I think snakes get an unfairly bad rap sometimes

Most of them are not really dangerous, and the ones that are are overwhelmingly not aggressive unless threatened / encroached upon / squished

@Magisch yep. For a part this is evolutionary.

12:01 PM

@JAD Fish taste a lot different from any 'land animal meat' I've ever tried, so... perhaps it's just because we don't live underwater ;)

Being able to spot a snake in the underbrush is a huge asset when you're trekking through the woods as early human

@Tinkeringbell that would depend a lot on how seal tastes compared to human :P

I personally have tried neither

@JAD I now feel I have to reassure people in this room that I haven't tried any as well ;)

:D

@JAD Then you consider that people try tipping over cows for fun and this becomes less true

12:18 PM

there's always crazies

'morning all! .. what's this about cow-tipping?

lol: "Scientific studies have been conducted to determine if cow tipping is theoretically possible, with varying conclusions. All agree that cows are large animals that are difficult to surprise and will generally resist attempts to be tipped."

@EmC if you were a shark, what do you think would taste better, human or seal?

@JAD hmmmm.. I'd guess seal.. plus humans seem quite bony and small in comparison, probably not worth it :P

@EmC sometimes they'll kick you too, and then you find out that getting kicked by a cow is potentially lethal

1:00 PM

@EmC Do watch Dr. Pol sometimes. It's a veterinarian show that also does farm animals, and they do tip cows over from time to time!

@Tinkeringbell I appreciate your choice of pseudonym for the boyfriend's child in your newest question

@Rainbacon I had to come up with something, because I don't know how to describe the kid in 'family relations' terms. He isn't my grandparents great-grandkid, because he's from the boyfriend, but not the cousin... Brat is just easier XD

@Tinkeringbell step-great-grand-kiddo?

@JAD Yeah, Brat is just fine as a pseudonym ;)

To be honest, the real name of the kid is kinda ridiculous too..

So Brat is an improvement

1:15 PM

@Tinkeringbell I'm not much for government intervention in frivolous matters, but I can't help but admire Iceland for their policy requiring parents to name their children from a registry of acceptable names.

@Rainbacon we have that in germany too

@Tinkeringbell Sasquatch?

@Magisch Of course you do.

it comes up every now and then when someone decides they want their kids to be bullied and tries to name one wonderbread or superman or something

@Rainbacon Oh, there's a few of them outlawed here too, but that doesn't mean parents don't come up with some strange names and stranger ways to pronounce them.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I was thinking maybe it was short for "Bratwurst" :P

1:17 PM

@EmC Oh, no... Brat Pidd ;)

Hey that joke is copyrighted.

The general rule is it has to be a historically used name or close permutation of one somewhere

I don't get the joke >.>

OH wait

Imagine you name your kid like PepsiCola Wonderbread

@Tinkeringbell I still don't get it ><

1:18 PM

I just needed one more sip of coffee haha

That kid either has to change their name or will have a unduely hard life because of it

BreadPudding SugarCrumbs

My fiancee had a student once whose name was Lovve Goddess

@Ælis google.com/…

Look at the cast

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ It's crowdsourced. ;)

1:19 PM

@Rainbacon It'd be funny if the student was a boy.

@Ælis swap the d's and t's ;)

@Rainbacon Thats almost inappropriate naming for a kid innit?

Running around with a diaper, shooting at people with arrows.

@Tinkeringbell Do I look like 'crowd' to you.

@EmC Okay, but why putting a "d" instead of "t" is funny (in know Brat Pitt, I just don't get why you would write it "Pidd")

shatter see, that was my heart.

@Ælis Well, the idea is you swap the consonants

1:21 PM

@Ælis you also have to swap in the first name: brad pitt -> brat pidd

The spelling doesn't have any bearing on the pronunciation

@Ælis google.com/… ;)

@EmC Oh right, I didn't realise it was "Brat" and "Brad" ^^'

@Tinkeringbell well, this joke is more complicated than I realized :o

@Tinkeringbell Oh, nice! Google translate didn't know that one!

1:24 PM

@EmC I like it :D

1:37 PM

@Magisch I would say that it's entirely inappropriate for anyone

I just found out that one of my coworkers is learning German and several others speak it. I'm quite pleased by this

IPS Comment Bot

1:56 PM

I agree with @JenInCode. No kids allowed, while still upsetting to some, is an easier sell than no SOs. This is a momentous occasion and, imo, the good way to celebrate would not be fun for children. — Lux Claridge 57 secs ago

#21862 Lux Claridge (189 rep) | Q: What to keep in mind when telling an aunt how wrong her actions are, without creating further family conflict? (score: 3) | posted 4 hours ago by Tinkeringbell (22502 rep) | edited 4 hours ago by Tinkeringbell (22502 rep) | Toxicity 0.102743134

Matched regex(es) ["possible-aic"]

@IPSCommentBot tp

IPS Comment Bot

Marked this comment as caught correctly (tp). Currently marked 1tps/0fps. beep boop My human overlords won't let me flag that, so you'll have to do it yourself.

@IPSCommentBot you do it yourself

@avazula I flagged it, so if you flagged it then we only need one more

@Rainbacon I did too. @IPSCommentBot now what you're waiting for?

2:04 PM

It's gone

Should I edit the question to clarify that these are really just 'boy/girlfriends' in the most childish way of the word? As in, they're not married, not living together, just people these cousins go on dates with and kiss?

There's already soo much there, I really don't want to clutter it up with more information

And in a sense, it feel irrelevant to communicating my grandparents wishes

@Tinkeringbell maybe "dates" would describe it better?

Yeah, I dunno... 'dates' is a bit too little maybe.

Maybe you should add a clarification to your question that frame challenges are not acceptable?

Dates are a nice source of fast-burning carbs, however.

2:08 PM

@Rainbacon Hmmm...

@Rainbacon erm...

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ XD

@Tinkeringbell I think there is definitively something to clarify. But maybe you could just add "I do not wish to negotiate and just want to communicate my grandparents wishes"

> That it's not her party, not her rules. That we're going to do this the way my grandparents actually wanted it in the first place.

@Tinkeringbell If they are together for over a year, as you say in the question, I think boyfriend is the best term. Dates implies like first month of the relationship or so

2:10 PM

The way I see it, we should be reserving frame challenges for when the course of action that the OP is requesting fails to meet the criteria of "interacting well with others"

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, I know, but it is still not clear enough that you want, in no way, negotiate with your aunt

@Rainbacon Well, in this case a frame-challenge might also be something that gets this message to my aunt, but e.g. tells me to let my mom do it because of generations or something.

I don't want to entirely rule out answers that might show that I'm not the right person to be delivering this message ;)

(granted, I also don't want any that say 'let your grandparents do their own dirty work')

@Tinkeringbell well, if they manage to provide arguments as to why that's a good idea, that's good enough right?

> My grandparents are unhappy and told me they gave in to my aunt's wishes 'just to be done with it'. After talking with some of their other children/grandchildren, my grandparents now feel again that giving in to my aunt was wrong. But, to avoid being pushed into the 'pancake restaurant' plan again, they don't want to talk with this aunt about it anymore.

Seems hard to argue with though

@JAD Yeah. Perhaps. Maybe someone will suggest a full blown family intervention. Knowing tempers on that side of the family, that's going to go well XD

haha

2:16 PM

@Tinkeringbell you could threaten to ban the next person who suggests that boy/girlfriends should be allowed :p

@Rainbacon Oh! That's a good idea evil grin

@Rainbacon HNQ drawbacks... constant opinion challenging

@avazula Mwah. Ælis' question is back on HNQ and is doing okay-ish so far?

Protection probably helps though ;)

@avazula Also, Tink question isn't yet on HNQ :p

@Tinkeringbell 12 edits, though. Are we really too greedy on important details when writing questions?

2:24 PM

I don't think so.

I think some details might've even been left out ;) And... if the post had gone through Sandbox, I might've suggested rephrasing it as showing disengagement from a specific conversation in general, instead of as asking 'how to show Alex' ... But the question already had some answers by the time I saw it and those would've been invalidated. ;)

@Tinkeringbell I regretted not posting it in the sandbox first. I thought that, after all this time, I knew how to properly communicate what I wanted ><

@Ælis It's hard... I spent 2,5 or maybe even 3 hours on that question I posted this morning, just adding and removing and reordering details and rephrasing stuff, so the post would not be very long, very ranty or miss the point of my question. And even I get comments asking if I can't do X instead ;)

@Tinkeringbell True ^^ Also, the boyfriend/aunt thing isn't very clear. Maybe you should write it again near the end of the question ("The boyfriend isn't my aunt boyfriend, it's my aunt daughter boyfriend")

It's seems clear to me that the boyfriend (father of Brat) is a boyfriend of one of the aunt's daughters, but maybe I'm in the minority?

@Rainbacon maybe not the father but I understood it that way too

2:37 PM

@Rainbacon I've given it a small edit, and also included that my grandparents don't consider these boy/girlfriends family(yet) ;)

@Tinkeringbell I think it's more clearer now :)

That's a good edit

@Rainbacon Thanks :)

(@Ælis too ;) )

Now I have another not backed up answer ... :P

@Tinkeringbell on it

@avazula Thanks to you too then! :D

2:43 PM

Oof @Tink that question is a Hard Problem. You sound like you have your hands full :/

yea, I'm sorry that you have to go through this too.

@scohe001 Yeah, tell me about it :P Yesterday was loads of fun :/

(it was also ambiguous to me whether "Brat" was referring to the wild child or the father of the child (and boyfriend of your relative))

I'm very intrigued to see the answers it gets, because I have an aunt like that

Heh. There's a lot of aunts like that around! Now if only someone knew how to deal with those XD

(@Magisch mentioned having one too ;) )

Hello @AbrahamGuerreroGodoy!

2:46 PM

Erh. I used to have a terrible great aunt like this. Maybe I should write an answer...

@avazula How did you solve it? 'used to have' sounds like you just had to wait ;)

@Tinkeringbell nope, that's ... because of another sad story I'm not really willing to share because I feel I talk too much about my sad past life to you people xD

Ah, sorry for poking it :)

no worries :) I just don't want you to feel sorry for me. That one is kinda rough.

Topic switch: I think my best friend just lured me into being tech support tomorrow XD We were supposed to grab dinner and a movie, but now she's texted asking if I would mind coming along earlier, because she's also going to the city in the afternoon to pick out a new cellphone... and if I didn't, she'd have to drive up there three times (also once very early in the morning, to her job).

2:49 PM

haha

@Tinkeringbell Fortunately, we have a recent question that might be helpful

@Rainbacon Hahaha, I told her I'd come, but then I wanted to go to the craft store to get safety eyes ;)

So we're good ;)

She can help me pick yarn colours, she's great at that.

@Tink what do you think about the answerer's edit to include their personal XP?

It's still a FC but it brings some points on the table I think

@avazula Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be particularly helpful, but at least it's an actual answer now, and not just an opinion.

@Tinkeringbell that's what I think too.

2:54 PM

I still don't really agree with Jen arguing the cousin is majorly upset because she can't bring a guy she's only known for a year. Aunt has been the one pushing grandma and grandpa, and there haven't really been any signs the cousin is upset. In a sense, I almost suspect the aunt has her own reasons, totally unrelated to her kids wishes. But those are just gut feelings, no hard facts :/

Aunts do strange things. My fiancee's aunt stopped talking to the family for a while. The reason was that my fiancee didn't think it was cute that the aunt's 3 year old granddaughter kept kicking her (fiancee) in the head

@Rainbacon Yep. This one is also the owner of the dog Fifi, that I wrote a question about before. And they have a kind of humor... it's okay for them to e.g. make jokes like 'Tink is so smart, Tink, what was the result of this football match'... but when I make jokes like 'Aunt is so normal, Aunt, can you explain nuclear fission' it's suddenly not appreciated and not told to me but my mom and AAAGH that whole family is just a mess.

If we visit grandma for her birthday, aunt will get up at 20:30 and start clearing away the table, no matter how much people are still talking and stuff, and just declare the party ended... I've often spent another 2 hours talking with people and my grandparents after the snacks and drinks have been cleared away and the dishes done, while she's continually trying to push her husband and kids in going home...

Now with Brat, I'm always glad to see them gone, but...

Even my grandparents can't control her :/

And she's their kid.

And now I have to do it somehow and it sucks.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Questions

When sitting, how do you non-verbally communicate that someone is invading your personal space? non-verbal-communication, ??? I don't like when people are physically too close to me. When standing, this isn't a problem since I can move a little and distance myself from the person being too cl...

I always hate when people defer on their own interpersonal issues and just pass them on for someone else to deal with

Extroverted Main Man

3:47 PM

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Q: How to gracefully navigate potentially negative or bewildered reactions to calling a long lost relative?

I am seeking to reconnect with my estranged father of 20 years. I found an entry in the phone book that could potentially be his father (my grandfather). The name matches and it's a 20 minute walk to my father's old high school so it could be him. I've never met my paternal grandfather. My mothe...

family estranged-relations

3:59 PM

Pfew

that answer took me ages

@Tink could you informally tell me if that helped once you've read it?

@avazula Sure, give me some time to read! ;)

Ooh you discuss "nonviolent communication skills" but I'd love to read your "violent communication skills" version :P

@Tinkeringbell of course, no worries :p

@scohe001 you have no idea how violent I can be ...

@avazula I think it's a good one. I don't know if it'll work yet, but nonviolent communication skills had crossed my mind too. As for the informal thing, I'm not so sure. Brat is the only 3-year-old, the rest of us are all adults. So it's not really possible to have Brat play with other children... so he'd be bothering us.

@Tinkeringbell oh no :(

4:05 PM

@avazula O_O remind me to never mess with you

remind yourself, I don't have time for this :*

(jk)

@avazula It's okay :) I didn't say so before, so just leave it in ;)

thinks about alternative solutions

@avazula Eh, don't. The point was to communicate with aunt, not to brainstorm our next family gathering XD

4:37 PM

Oh dear, I was just writing an english sentence and tried to end it with a semi-colon

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5:09 PM

I've been editing a few tag wikis this afternoon and I know that tag wiki edits made by low rep users show up in the suggested edits queue, but is there any tool that gives visibility into tag wiki edits made by users with full editing privileges?

@Rainbacon hmm, it doesn't appear so based on meta.stackexchange.com/questions/249977/…

Hmm, that seems possibly bad. I mean, I trust that I'm making good tag wiki edits, but that doesn't necessarily mean anyone else should

I'm pretty sure that means that a high rep user could deface a number of tags and nobody would notice unless they happened to look at the tag wikis

^ probably not likely to happen, but still could be good to have some visibility

5:28 PM

yeahhh... I wonder if there's already a feature request somewhere? I didn't see one but didn't look that hard

I can't seem to find one either

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Q: There should be a way to review tag wiki edits

Recently, several topics advocate using tag wikis for more than a cursory explanation of the tag: Tag wikis need a size and functionality increase Kill the book lists and put them home in their respective tag wikis On SU, a similar issue is currently being implemented as an alternative to top...

feature-request tags review tag-wiki tag-wiki-excerpt

Hmm, that's some impressive search-fu you've got Tink

@Rainbacon tag wiki edit review ;)

Then a bit of scrolling and reading XD

5:49 PM

Ok, I bountied that question to ask for an official response

Ooh, @Tinkeringbell your question hit HNQ

@Rainbacon Nice timing. It will be there the entire weekend, with nothing much happening, and age out somewhere on Monday XD

I already know that, we have a feed of HNQ questions set up in the moderator room... Perhaps... if people here are interested in seeing that too, we might move it to a gallery room, where people can all see it, but not talk? :) @EmC thoughts?

Or IPS will burn down over the weekend

(It's her feed ;) )

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