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user15026
12:00 AM
Aww <3
 
....right, the bot doesn't currently have a border thing on the regexes
so the regex agreed? caught that "disagree"
 
user15026
I was going to ask what I did to displease the bot :P
 
3 messages moved to trash
:43525660 note to self: don't test when things like that are the latest regex hits
 
@Mithrandir Heh, seems like some unlucky timing.
 
Yeah, I should really just do it in the morning...
it's kinda late, I should head to sleep
$TIMEZONE$, y'all
 
12:13 AM
Sleep well.
 
@HDE226868 and as soon as you undeleted my answer, it got the next downvote. I'd really hope you would respect my wish to use SE without having to be the target of negativity just because I was trying to help. Not that I did any good with that.
 
@Haunt_House I'm looking at your reputation history. You didn't get any downvotes today or yesterday.
The system might have again counted the old downvotes, that would have been ignored once your post was deleted, but nobody added a new one.
 
@HDE226868 So it popped up again when the question got back from it's well deserved retirement. Misinterpretation recognized and filed. Sorry, my pain threshold has become super low, so these numbers do have an impact.
 
@Haunt_House Hey, I totally understand. I'm not a fan of downvotes either.
 
12:48 AM
This looks helpful, but I suspect the downvote came because it doesn't very well serve to answer the question. Useful information, but not an answer :-( — can-ned_food 1 min ago
#12146 can-ned_food (214 rep) | A: How can I suggest to someone that he may potentially be colourblind? (score: -1) | posted 42 minutes ago by user15644 (1 rep)
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12:59 AM
While this is a good approach in the general case, I am trying to picture taking the lightfooted executive approach in a scenario where two people are arguing about what colour something is, and I can't imagine it as anything less absurd than the "Expert" sketch. "Okay, so we have a disagreement. Let's recap where we've got to thus far. You're saying that this is red and this is green. You're saying that these are both red. We seem to have a genuine difference..." Honestly that's just going to come across as condescending, no matter the facts! — Lightness Races in Orbit 1 min ago
#12126 Lightness Races in Orbit (344 rep) | A: How can I suggest to someone that he may potentially be colourblind? (score: 28) | posted 8 hours ago by Spagirl (8822 rep) | edited 7 hours ago by Spagirl (8822 rep)
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1:47 AM
@Rainbacon blizzard tomorrow :(
I'm interested in what you guys think of this:
because I use coffee shops to get work done - it's pretty typical here in Manhattan to do that - I always make sure to leave a tip. The baristas have a tip jar by the cash register. often, they take my coffee order, I pay for it, but when I get my change, they turn around to make my drink, so that if I left a dollar tip in the tip jar, it feels like they're not gonna know that ...
 
user15026
Why do they need to know?
 
hmm ... isn't it nice for them to know that I tipped? compared to others who don't?
I dunno ... perhaps they feel it's rude to give me my change and just ... stare ... to watch whether I'll leave a tip or put all of my change back in my wallet ...
 
user15026
It feels more like you want the gratification of them seeing it
 
user15026
Like if you're just tipping because they did good/you want to, it shouldn't matter if they see it, their opinion of it, etc
 
A tip's extra. You shouldn't expect to get something in return, like attention.
 
user15026
1:55 AM
It should be something you do as a kind gesture, not because you expect a thing
 
but if they don't see it, won't they think, "ah, that cheap guy again ... "
 
user15026
So what?
 
user15026
You're making the tip all about you, and that kinda defeats the point
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: How to deal with an abusive moderator - Catija by Mark Micallef on interpersonal.SE (@Tinkeringbell)
 
hmm ...
I read things about bartenders - not sure whether baristas do the same, though - remembering exactly who tips, who tips really well, and who doesn't tip at all. And they base their time and attention on that information, especially if it's a busy night ...
 
2:04 AM
You could always start paying with a credit card and leave the tip right there on the tip line.
 
Oo true ...
 
In fact, some of the coffee shops around here even let you run a tab (they keep your card at the bar) and you can order stuff throughout the day and pay out at the end.
Though, it's worth remembering that waitstaff generally prefer cash tips since credit tips get reported to the IRS by the shop.
 
I see ...
 
user15026
Also, like...if you wait for them to pay attention to you, you'll hold up the line
 
yeah ...
 
2:21 AM
@Catija what'd you think of my recent answer? I deleted it because of the drama that was occurring. I kinda like my answer, although it's a bit personal, and the reference that I link to seems like a good start for more background reading for the OP, but do you think the question is controversial and that it's best not to contribute to it?
I can imagine by the next morning that question's going to get a lot of interesting answers ...
 
@D.Hutchinson Yeah, I'm working from home. My girlfriend's pretty excited about it because she's a teacher and they cancelled school
 
ah, nice @Rainbacon :)
@Rainbacon there were a lot of people at the supermarket and grocery stores tonight ...
 
@D.Hutchinson I know, I waited in line to checkout longer than I spent shopping for groceries
 
haha ... geez ...
 
user15026
@D.Hutchinson One person stirring up drama in an answer does not a controversial quesiton make
 
2:27 AM
@ash I see ...
 
user15026
Either contribute, if you think it's on topic and you have helpful stuff for hte OP, or don't
 
user15026
And then votes/comments will sort you out
 
user15026
you don't need validation for each post from mods
 
yeah, true ...
 
user15026
you're an adult, you can decide where your own comfort level is
 
2:28 AM
ok, cool ...
I'll probably undelete it :)
I think it's useful ... though I might edit it a bit
 
A J
2:39 AM
> Materialism: buying things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people that don't matter.
 
@AJ there's a good article, I forget the source, that writes about how miserable millionaires are -- how trapping their wealth is -- because they are striving to social-climb to a new status: to belong with the people who are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. they land up spending all their money, e.g. their kids go to the fanciest schools, they live in fancy buildings, and they barely have any money left.
all from seeking approval from people who are higher up than them, in terms of wealth.
 
user15026
2:59 AM
Everybody wants what they don't have, unfortunately.
 
user15026
So everyone's striving for more, even the people we think have more
 
yeah ...
 
A J
3:28 AM
@D.Hutchinson agreed
 
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Q: How to use Social Penetration Theory to increased closeness when there are assumed personal boundaries in the relationship

JesseI recently heard about Social Penetration Theory where the basic principle is that "people use self‐disclosure to increase intimacy including through breadth, depth, and the norm of reciprocity" and thought that it was interesting and since I have a few relationships where I want to increase exac...

 
A J
Desires never end. The one who walks wants to have bike. One who has bike wants a car. And it goes on.
 
@ExtravertedMainMan I am quite pleased with my question :) its been in the back of my mind for months that we could benefit from some questions about actually researched IPS theories
 
3:43 AM
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Q: How to deal with abusive moderators like Catija and HDE 226868?

Mark MicallefThere is a serious problem with this forum in the shape of abusive moderators who vandalise or delete contributions which do not match their ideological agenda. A recent example of this can be seen in the my answer to this question: How can I let my girlfriend know that her insults are hurting ...

 
4:10 AM
@Catija Are you planning on responding to that question, or do you think the existing answers are sufficient?
 
@gparyani The meta question? I don't really have anything to add.
 
A J
4:25 AM
@Catija Do you get messages on Insta or is this feature turned off?
 
@AJ If you comment on an image, I see it. Is that what you mean?
 
A J
@Catija No. Direct message.
 
I didn't even know you could DM on Insta.
I know that you can send an image to someone... but I think that's different.
 
A J
@Catija Yes you can. When you're on home screen, you see a big icon on top right of your screen. Tap on that.
@Catija Yes, you can DM text and images.
 
OK. I don't use the app unless I'm actually adding an image and it doesn't look like they have that on the web based version.
 
A J
4:28 AM
@Catija It's not available on Web.
 
+1 for the first part. I am very skeptical about someone being able to deal with insults from a romantic partner on what seems to be a regular basis, though. It may be bearable in a long distance relationship, but when OP moves in with the GF, this may turn into Chinese water torture. — Stephan Kolassa 52 secs ago
#12142 Stephan Kolassa (461 rep) | A: How can I let my girlfriend know that her insults are hurting my feelings and ask her to stop? (score: 4) | posted 5 hours ago by D.Hutchinson (2246 rep) | edited 1 hours ago by D.Hutchinson (2246 rep)
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A J
@Catija Anyway, try that feature on app. ;)
 
 
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6:13 AM
0
Q: How to let down a hopeless romantic as a female?

two black lines in the middleI'll start off with this: I'm a male. I'm actually just curious from the standpoint of the ladies. How do you handle essentially "dumping" or not leading a man on who likes/"loves" you, but you know, while cute and or interesting, etc., is just not up to your lifestyle/intellectual standards?

 
6:29 AM
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Q: How can I convince her that I truly changed?

ash lastThis girl and I liked each other and we kind of hanged out all the time but I kind of got clingy and some other things happened[I thought she liked another guy that worked with us cause he started being around her all the time she told me that she didn't like him and he had told her that he liked...

 
6:43 AM
could I just point out that the hopeless romantic question (2 up @ExtrovertedMainMan ^^) had the "Politics" tag
"For situations where the interaction revolves around the country's administration, ruling parties, or citizen rights."
I guess, if you really think about it, the question is about administrating someones personal relationships, and in a way a country IS its people, so if you put two and two together it actually is about the country's administration... ooh wait no it clearly isn't
 
 
1 hour later…
8:09 AM
morning
 
moin
 
@StephanKolassa I disagree, saying "if you keep with this behavior, I'm leaving" is very different from "you hurt my feelings". The former implies a consequence to her actions. — André Paramés 27 secs ago
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@mag 1380 votes isn't shabby
 
@Mithrandir ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
8:26 AM
I helped! go mag go :)
 
8:38 AM
@Erik I would have to disagree... what I want was only mentioned once when outlining my goals and motive which is essential in asking any question here on IPS. With a possible second time when i explained how the interaction achieved the opposite of said hopes... Most of my question was focused on what i did and how my friend reacted. Again this is important to the question — Jesse 19 secs ago
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8:52 AM
That is a very good one! We get lots of people asking 'how can I have a build a friendship' and we have to turn them away because most of the times their questions are too broad :)

I like this one, and I loved answering it :D
 
@Tinkeringbell :) I really liked your answer too, I had not gone too in depth with the research and focusing on the reciprocation and making it gradual poked some glaring holes in my approach that I didn't realise before. I won't accept for 24hours as help suggests to encourage more answers (I personally think there could be a lot to talk about with this) but it was great stuff :)
 
@JesseBarnett Quick question though, do you have access to the full article you linked too?
 
My friend owned it and i skimmed it
 
I'm curious to read it, and there's other articles on that website that peeked my curiosity as well ;)
 
which is why my knowledge had lots of holes xD
 
8:57 AM
Hahaha :P Well, guess we'll just have to manage with open source info then. Maybe someone will pop up that has access, and write an even better answer :D
 
unfortunately yeah, but I am really glad you enjoyed it :)
 
I just googled the encyclopedia... it goes for over 400 dollars on Amazon.. I enjoy the subject, but not that much XD
 
ooh wow :O 400 dollars!
 
When I read your Q i knew Tinkeringbell would like it. Finally a question that asks about an actual interpersonal skill :) nice answer with sources btw Bell ^^
 
I got a bit annoyed with the "don't" answer, perhaps ranted at them a little too much :D
I had really high hopes for something interesting like Tinkeringbell's answer and would have been fairly let down if everyone just filed it under "manipulation"
 
9:04 AM
@JesseBarnett Nah. It clearly lacks research effort. They do try hard, but maybe research questions are a bit out of their league still ;-) I think it's time to introduce that answer to the back-it up meta ;)
@JesseBarnett Yeah well, prepare, there are most likely going to be more...
 
I was tempted to leave a comment like this for comic effect:
> edit commnt into q pls kthx
 
@Mithrandir where?
 
@Mithrandir ed cmnt int q plz kthxbye
 
> You might want to take a look at this meta about backing up your posts Although it's not strictly enforced, it is a good idea and encouraged to back up an answer with references (either personal experience or sources). Do you have anything to back up this post and maybe improve on it?
How's that for an autocomment?
 
@Tinkeringbell @JesseBarnett's question
 
9:12 AM
(there's supposed to be a link.. Ugh!)
 
@Tinkeringbell kinda Netherlands-y
:P
 
Huh? Too direct? :P
I already inserted a bunch of flowery language into that one..
 
Should add like a "thanks for the answer" to at least soften the blow a bit
 
@Tinkeringbell You're like me in that respect. Every ounce of tact is a concession :p
 
@Mithrandir Meh.. is an 'answer' really an 'answer' if not backed up? :P
I'll work on it ;)
 
9:17 AM
@Tinkeringbell yes, otherwise we would enforce that more strictly
 
@Cashbee Which might still happen :P
I promised I'd collect some posts and make a meta about that one ;)
 
And when that happens, then you can say that it is not an answer :)
 
Hahaha okay, true :)
 
What's the character limit for comments again?
 
600
 
9:19 AM
Oh good.
 
> Thank you for posting on $SITENAME$ Stack Exchange. You might want to take a look at [this meta about backing up your posts](interpersonal.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1611/1599). Although it's not strictly enforced, it is a good idea and encouraged to back up an answer with references (either personal experience or sources). Do you have anything to back up this post and maybe improve on it?
Better?
 
> Thank you for taking the effort to write an answer! While I'm sure that you have a good reason for giving this advice, you might want to take a look at [this meta](https://interpersonal.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1611/31) about backing up your posts. Although it's not strictly enforced, it is a good idea and heavily encouraged to back up your answers with references (either external sources or personal experience). Could you please perhaps [edit] to improve this answer with something to back it up? Thanks! :)
 
Switch around sources and experience.
Sources are better :P
Maybe we can also link it to the cultural relevance meta for personal experience?
 
While I'm sure that you have a good reason for giving this advice, you might want to take a look at.. - nice wording
 
A J
@Mithrandir I like it.
 
9:23 AM
how will [edit] behave? will that become a link to edit his answer?
 
@Cashbee yep, magic link
@Cashbee thanks :)
 
Any chance sources and experiences can be switched?
 
they already are :)
 
And you can always edit it in your own personal version
 
Oh, duh. More COFFEE!
That's true. I'm trying to find that meta about disclosing personal culture in an answer... Can't really find it. Any help?
 
9:27 AM
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Q: What should we do about answers based on the 'wrong' culture?

Rand al'ThorThis site has already had a lot of discussion about clarifying cultural context in questions. I haven't been following meta well enough to link to all the relevant discussions, but here's one early one, and I've noticed that questions which don't specify a culture are being put on hold. What abo...

 
Yay, thanks :)
 
also this maybe?
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Q: Related Answers: Why your Pakistani answer won't always work for India

Zizouz212n.b. I'm creating this post as a guide and canonical reference for why an answer to a question that lists a different culture may not always be appropriate and acceptable. As you may already have heard, Interpersonal Skills Stack Exchange is a place for asking and answering questions about speci...

 
@Cashbee That's the one I was looking for I think... stupid clever titles
 
@Tinkeringbell google skillz ftw :)
 
@Mithrandir But this one has more guidance on writing your answer I think
 
9:34 AM
but the highest answer has 4 upvotes. It does not make the impression of being agreed upon by the community.
 
@Cashbee Well, it's Old. I think it might be time to incorporate that into the meta I'll be writing then?
Even though the other one is at 9, it doesn't encourage answerers explicity to add cultural relevance to their answer?
It only sets out a lot of data to prove that it might be necessary...
I'll hold of on that auto-comment a little while longer ;-)
 
@Tinkeringbell yeah i know :(
I just stumbled upon this: https://interpersonal.meta.stackexchange.com/a/191/8077
I'm sure you are aware of that one @Tinkeringbell but in case you're not I'm sharing it here
 
@Cashbee Yes, I'm apparently aware it exists, I upvoted that one ;) But it's not the most upvoted answer there... And there's no enforcing it (yet), apparently there's not enough consensus over that one?
So, if anyone wants to try the new autocomment, here's another one: interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/12160/1599 ... they 'think' but I don't see why they 'think'...
I think I might actually replace the link to back-it up to the answer Catija wrote..
Because that one links to a very good answer on how to write an experience based answer...
 
@Tinkeringbell that, and her own answer is well written and explains the situation nicely. Even if it isnt the highest answer
 
I linked 'heavily encouraged' to Catija's answer :P
Aaand now it's too long by 24 characters... :(
 
9:48 AM
what? no mine works
its too long for this chat, but I just auto commented your linked answer
worked
oh damn wait
I had a link wrong but it still worked
 
No, I added links to Catija's answer and the 'how to write a personal experience answer' as well ;) That makes it too long ;P
 
@Tinkeringbell and the 'how to write a personal experience answer' as well.. ah
 
Fixed it, how's this?
> Thank you for writing an answer! While I'm sure that you have your reasons for giving this advice, you might want to take a look at [this meta](interpersonal.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1611/1599) about backing up posts. Although it's not strictly enforced, it is a good idea and heavily encouraged
> to back up your answers with references (either external sources or personal experience). Could you please perhaps [edit] to improve this answer with something to back it up? Thanks! :)
Why does the first link not work?
 
no htpps
https
 
Really? Oh.
Will fix that then ;)
Okay, so a little please had to go, but I'm going with this for now:
> Thank you for writing an answer! While I'm sure that you have your reasons for giving this advice, you might want to take a look at this meta about backing up posts. Although it's not strictly enforced, it is a good idea and heavily encouraged
> to back up your answers with references (either external sources or personal experience). Could you perhaps [edit] to improve this answer with something to back it up? Thanks!
And now I have to go do some work before lunch XD :P
 
9:57 AM
yea me too xD
too long by 25 chars
 
What? No, it shouldn't be ... :(
3 chars left.. says my comment box. Did you copy my text? I shortened the first sentence somewhat, took out a please here and there... :P
 
ok I see where you shortened it. works
 
10:39 AM
@JesseBarnett and there's nr. 2 sigh
 
ahah, I don't think this one is nearly as bad though
 
If that one is getting more upvotes than mine, I'm going to throw another tantrum..
 
@IPSCommentBot well, that's NLN but not abusive
 
@JesseBarnett Hmmm... maybe not to the point of needing a downvote, but I'd also be very careful upvoting it if we want to encourage answer on academic research questions to actually include a back up
Also, it's sort of a duplicate of mine with a bit of try-this monologue :P
 
mmm, fair enough
plus im not too pleased with their example, they never loop it back around to SPT
 
10:44 AM
I have seen it happen too... and it's difficult to moderate your own question since that would seem like you're shooting down everyone that isn't saying what you want to hear..

I hope the community will help you ;)
 
+1 but for the last paragraph. Mixing family and business - eh. And if she really does pay you've got one hell of an entitled customer who now thinks she can throw anything at you because after all she's paying. Rather, let her pay someone else to deal with the problems... — AllTheKingsHorses 1 min ago
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I like that +1 regex, and at the same time it's driving me crazy!
 
A J
There is too much noise.
 
what? I can't hear you
 
There's also 3 RO's that can delete the stuff...
Check it it's flagged and removed, and delete it
9 messages moved to trash
 
A J
10:47 AM
@Tinkeringbell The thing is only one removed.
 
Oh... Well, or delete them after 10 minutes XD :P
False regex hits can go immediately too ;)
 
I don't like that edit any better >.>
 
A J
@Tinkeringbell LOL
 
@JesseBarnett See the comment I left ;)
At least they tried!
 
never trying to deepen your relationships in fear that it might hurt them is ridiculous. I can understand advising some precaution, but no matter the reason it doesn't make sense to say 'dont'
and i like your comment a lot
their answer of taking time to genuinely build those connections... that IS SPT
 
10:53 AM
@JesseBarnett Which is exactly why I left the comment ;-) Exactly!
 
0
Q: sandbox and quality control

CursedAt time of posting: the front page of recent questions had 15 questions total. 6 of those were either on hold, closed or in negative and probably flagged. Consequently, I am suggesting a meta sandbox thread for people to post their questions - that they can be altered and made more suitable befo...

 
@Jesse are you lookin gfor the not-equals sign? ≠
 
:)
 
@JesseBarnett well, it's in HNQ and might receive a storm of votes soon, since it's also almost lunchtime over here XD :P
 
11:06 AM
it might also get some votes in the other direction. Those other answers are still bugging me
ughh. The miss-interpretation, and then stubborn defence of the position gained through said miss-interpretation is quite annoying.
ooh they removed the don't :) its at least a little better
 
11:45 AM
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Q: How to respond to "Wow, your eyelashes are so long!"

user9506231I am a young male, and my eyelashes are quite long. I often get comments (almost always from women) about their length. Normally along the lines of: "Wow, you have such long eyelashes" "Your eyelashes are so long" Sometimes they call their friends over to also have a look etc...

 
Since the sandbox was a dupe, it might be good if there's people currently here that wouldn't mind helping such a sandbox to send HDE's answer a comment, telling them that they're willing to help out :P interpersonal.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1500/1599
 
Incidentally, I'm not sure what to make of the fact that not even 25 people have clicked through to any one of the links in my autocomments.
 
@Tinkeringbell: You already gave a very well cited answer to the scientific aspects, which I up-voted and I have nothing to add to that. The OP ask about How to apply this in his personal space though, so I shared my toughs and my approach. The Stack...-sites already have a very good mechanism to rate and get the relevant answers to the top - in fact they are built around this very problem - no need to police around. If there is a site-policy on sources, it should be in the help-center not in some old meta-posts. — Daniel 51 mins ago
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@Mithrandir That little huh? that's a shame...
"I have nothing to add to that"... then please don't write duplicate answers, anyone? :P
Do they have a point that this info should be in the help center?
 
12:03 PM
Eh - at the moment, it's just strongly recommended, but not a hard requirement. If it becomes a requirement, then it would be good but not necessary to add to the help center.
 
@Mithrandir I think we'll have to work on that then, especially for posts tagged
 
what about this accepted answer on a question tagged with ?
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A: What impact does "mirroring" have on other people?

r mMirroring is one of the components of "active listening." It indicates an empathy or sympathy with the person you are communicating with. These mirrored gestures are in some measure a natural reaction when people are in close proximity. You may have noticed the "contagious" effect of someone cr...

 
That has an excellent moderator comment
I think we slipped up from the get-go on those ;)
and I can't tell people not to accept what they like hearing the most...
 
12:23 PM
Hey, can you guide me to the post of how to make a good answer? I saw that somewhere but can't find rn. Appreciated :)
 
@TiagoCaldeira Pfft, there's many ;) Lemme get some links :)
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Q: What do we expect from an answer on Interpersonal Skills?

JADWe are trying our very best to remove low quality answers from our site. But there are no clear guidelines on what we, as a community, consider to be a good answer. So let's try and make a few guidelines on how to write answers on IPS questions and what every answer should contain or discuss. W...

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A: Why doesn't this site have a back it up rule?

BeofettTL;DR Yes, we should have a "back it up rule". It should be added to our help center. However, we need to be very careful about how we "enforce" this rule, because good advice on interpersonal skills can be based upon an amalgam of personal experiences built up over time, and doesn't require...

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A: Should we encourage writing from experience?

user288Experienced based answers are the way to go. Here's how to write a decent experience based answer: The members of this site need to take some time to look at the other Stack Exchange sites that deal with interpersonal issues. The three main sites that I am familiar with are the RPG Stack Exchang...

Those are my favorites ;)
 
Thank you! I'm barely new to this . I posted, as it seems a low-quality answer and now I'm much more worried about avoiding getting my responsed removed. Thanks again :)
 
@TiagoCaldeira Where's the answer? (If it gets deleted, just take time to edit it, and drop the link in chat ;) It can just as easily be undeleted)
 
https://interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/12170/12962
But since the question itself is out of scope right now I prefer answering it if the question reopens
 
Is that the one I downvoted for being essentially a one-liner?
 
12:30 PM
Oh sure ;) Yep, one-liners are baaaad :P Although in this case, it was more the fault of the question than the answer ;-) I wrote similar ones once too... Take a look at this question: interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/4365/… ...
@Mithrandir And the one that I deleted for that too. I'm sensing another autocomment coming :P
 
Yeah. It's best not to write answers to close-worthy questions.
 
@Mithrandir That requires knowing that it's close-worthy :P
 
@Tinkeringbell most one-liners are also try this answers, so that'll cover most of those
 
@Mithrandir Hmmm. still. Maybe I want 2, just for variety :P
 
@TiagoCaldeira that specific answer had a few problems with it. The most significant that you should keep in mind are that it did not answer the question and that it is not our place to tell OP not to care about the question they asked. Saying that implies there is no noteworthy answer to be written... in which case you should not write an answer :D
 
12:55 PM
@EmC nice tag edit on the mirroring question :D
 
1:08 PM
waiting for the blizzard to hit, and looking forward to shoveling heavy snow with a heart condition.
 
@RichardU Get a blanket and netflix, and wait it out? :P
I'd come over and help you, but that would be one expensive trip..
 
All this snow on the East Coast has me missing Alaska.
 
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Q: How to comment/improve answers in a helpful way on SE?

DanielSometimes answers on this and other stacks are not bad, but could benefit from some additional fact, aspect or clarification. Sadly, sometimes the author gets upset and defensive to such attempts. (I have to admit, I have been on both ends of this as author as well as commentator) Usually it doe...

 
@Tinkeringbell with any luck, I'll have another heart attack and finally be out of pain. The neuropathy is especially bad today, so I'm surly to bed and surly to rise.
 
@Tinkeringbell it's a good tag :)
 
1:15 PM
Hmmm... I'm seeing a lot of posts flagged as off-topic lately of which I'm not sure why they were flagged...
and similarly, I see questions pop up in the reopen queue that bother me because they aren't edited or improved... it sort of robs an OP of their chance to improve..
Any thoughts on this one? interpersonal.stackexchange.com/q/12105/1599 I'd really want to help, but I really don't want to shout another time 'GIVE US YOUR COMMUNICATION METHOD'...
 
@Tinkeringbell Yeah, I hope people start using custom close reasons more :\
 
Also, interpersonal.meta.stackexchange.com/a/2665/1599... I'm almost sorry to downvote it as it's someone who finally dares to step forward... but I do severely disagree...
 
@Tinkeringbell oof, that needs a edit for grammar and run-on sentences first of all
 
@EmC I try now... but it sort of needs constant reminders to remember that it's needed... Because it's really easy to fall back to the one-button-press stuff ;)
@EmC I'd hoped the OP would respond with something like 'yeah, I can only send her SMS or Whatsapp or whatever'... there might even be character limit to keep in mind :P
But now they're asking me explicitly when it will be reopened, and I do want to help, but at the same time I'm not sure how to get an answer after having asked 2 times already
 
@Tinkeringbell this is were general public confirmation helps ;)
 
1:23 PM
@Tinkeringbell lol I would just respond "This will get re-opened when you tell us how you intend to communicate with her"
 
@Tinkeringbell I can comment on that if you want me to
 
but I'm not a fan of the question in the first place :P
 
@Cashbee Sure, you try :)
 
ah, someone was faster than me ;)
 
How can I convince someone.... ? Is just a bad framework for a question.
 
1:25 PM
@Cashbee yep
 
@Tinkeringbell what gets VTC and VTRO here amazes me.
 
@RichardU Well, I hope my comment does encourage that person to step forward more often when scope discussions are happening on meta...
 
what do we do about that the freshly migrated Q in meta? the OP edits and comments like this is still a normal main-Q and not a meta-Q
 
I agree with @DonQuiKong 's comment. If OP's girflriend is "hard of hearing", anger can help to make her realize she's stomping on an important boundary better than any peaceful reasoning and that she cannot give him for granted. — LinuxBlanket 30 secs ago
#12142 LinuxBlanket (5294 rep) | A: How can I let my girlfriend know that her insults are hurting my feelings and ask her to stop? (score: 28) | posted 14 hours ago by D.Hutchinson (2406 rep) | edited 10 hours ago by D.Hutchinson (2406 rep)
Matched regex(es) ["chatty"]
 
I think it's less of a interpersonal skill than it is a question of how to be a good member on stack exchange.
 
1:36 PM
anyway, I'm not sure if it was correct to migrate it into meta anyway. I think his question does actually fit into main pretty well
 
Hmm... there is some stuff about not to use this site specifically for SE related stuff on main :P
Lemme look up some meta posts
 
IPS shouldn't become the dumping ground of every miscommunication on the network
 
I feel like this has to be asked on main meta already but can't find anything..
 
Or maybe on community building? I don't see the interpersonal skill here as much as this is about behaving in a constructive community way or maybe even more fit for writing :P
 
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A: Is it ok to ask questions about issues on Stack Exchange? If so, where do we draw the line?

Robert CartainoThe Stack Exchange's meta support site was created to deal with social issues as well as technical. While such questions may involve interpersonal concerns, I'm going to ask that we don't split these conversations between two sites. Ask your questions on meta.stackexchange.com (or the specific me...

 
1:39 PM
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Q: How to comment/improve answers in a helpful way on SE?

DanielThis is not a question on how interpersonal.stackexchange.com works. This question is about communicating effectively in a given scenario with a given goal! I am not interested in any meta-answers specific to the IPS stack-exchange Sometimes answers on this and other stacks are not bad, but coul...

 
Since it's specifically about site specific features It's not primarily an IPS issue.
 
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Q: Etiquette for posting civil and informative comments

Robert HarveySometimes I leave a comment like "Stack Overflow is not your personal research assistant," but am accused of being rude. How can I craft a comment that is seen as civil to the community and instructive to the OP? What tone should I strike in comments? What are some examples of bad comments and...

^ there we go
 
@sphennings a little bird once told me that I shouldn't chase people to main meta too easily. I think based on that info, the question can stay, but on meta, not main IPS
It would be too broad or unclear when put on main I'm afraid
 
@Tinkeringbell I think there's probably a question already on main meta about it.
I know that it's definitely a problem we're having on IPS right now.
 
@sphennings Yep, and then we're supposed to not only link it, but also copy-paste the relevant info to the new question...
 
1:44 PM
People don't always respond well when their posts are edited.
 
And if you want to, link to some site specific meta guidance as well..
@sphennings Or when clarification is requested/improvement suggested. I must admit I'm guilty of that too
5 hours ago, by Mithrandir
@Tinkeringbell kinda Netherlands-y
 
Answers from meta are useless from e as they will concentrate on how to use SE and nettiquette etc. which does not address my question at all! IF it stays here, I´m sorry for Richard U but I´ll have to delete it. — Daniel 25 secs ago
 
They keep making their question broader.
I think it's a reasonable question to have, "How to make edits to a question in a way that is respectful to the OP?"
 
@sphennings main or meta? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
Meta
 
1:49 PM
Communicating improvements sounds like you're looking for a feedback method? Those are definitely on-topic on main ;-)... I think it would be interesting to have a question on that combined with only written communication (since that rules out the non-verbal and tone-of-voice aspects of giving feedback)... Does that help? — Tinkeringbell 28 secs ago
 
it's not really an IPS skill it's a SE specific thing.
When making an edit do you communicate in a comment or the edit description?
 
I know, I was joking :)
@sphennings both
 
Personally I don't like filling up the comment section with comments saying "I edited your post to fix x" since that can be determined by anyone who wants to read the edit history.
As soon as it's made it's no longer needed.
 
edit description for summarize what you edited, comment to let OP know that you edited etc
 
OP will be notified when the edit is made.
 
1:52 PM
@sphennings yeah, better is something like "I edited your post to fix x, please look over it and revert it if it is not to your liking"
 
Edit description should explain why it was edited not summarize what.
What can be gleaned from the diff.
 
makes sense
 
Especially when doing more than fixing spelling or grammar, it's important to sell the edit to the OP.
 
@sphennings I often put comments in when I edit, esp if it's a new user. "I edited your post for X, if you feel that this edit changed the meaning of your post, please feel free to roll it back".
 
@sphennings even when you don't need approval to make edits?
 
1:55 PM
@EmC It doesn't matter.
 
@Cashbee ach! I didn't see your post. Yes, I do exactly like that.
 
The edit I do most often is to remove Edit:... from posts.
 
@sphennings TIL.. I thought once I passed that threshold they didn't get notified any more
 
I always explain that they don't need to show this since the edit history is visible.
@EmC I'm not actually sure there's an easy way to test this. Can you edit one of my posts?
 
@sphennings Funny that on the aforementioned meta Q there is an "Edit:" but it is there since the start.. interpersonal.meta.stackexchange.com/posts/2666/revisions
 
1:58 PM
@Cashbee I wasn't looking that closely. The site also treats all edits made within a short period of time as one edit.
I don't know what the threshold is.
 
@sphennings done ;)
 
oh just realized it myself, edits that are made shortly after creation don't come up in revision i think
 
@Cashbee yeah there's some "ninja edit" period
 
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