Codenames

Shiro

23:00

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Next in our ranking was SPELL, and I'm still not seeing any more.

msh210

@Shiro that was my top pick for bud

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Oh, ye gods. How did we miss that?

caird coinheringaahing

Oh, Bill

As in something you pay

You pay your water, gas and electricity bill

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Ah

I like it.

caird coinheringaahing

23:02

For the win?

msh210

I hope not :-)

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

For the win.

caird coinheringaahing

BILL

Shiro

BILL is Yellow (neutral)
It is now Blue's turn

PiIsNot3

For the win.....! no.

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

23:02

Could have been worse

msh210

wipes brow

caird coinheringaahing

Oh come on, I was feeling so smart :/

Weird that we haven't guessed any words in the first column

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

First column is cursed column

caird coinheringaahing

5 assassins

msh210

hmmm... a codenames variant where the teams have n and n+1 words to guess, with the value of n unknown to the guessers, and also an unknown-to-the-guessers number of assassins

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

23:06

hmmm...

John Dvorak

Blue: Huge(3)

caird coinheringaahing

@msh210 I stand by this variant :P

PiIsNot3

JUPITER and EUROPE are both huge

So is MEXICO

msh210

@cairdcoinheringaahing interesting

PiIsNot3

Tbh most of the words on the board right now can be "huge"

msh210

23:08

microscope makes things look huge

Shiro

msh210

it hugifies, if you will

@Shiro who asked you?

PiIsNot3

@Shiro Uh, nobody did the command...

caird coinheringaahing

Circles are massive if drawn massive

PiIsNot3

OK with JUPITER as our first play though?

msh210

23:09

probably...

PiIsNot3

Any word you think is more likely then?

msh210

thinking

no

PiIsNot3

OK, I'll play it

JUPITER

Final Jeopardy music

John Dvorak

Jupiter is blue

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Nuh-uh

PiIsNot3

23:12

!help

Shiro

Hello! I'm Shiro, a bot to help with the game Codenames. To see the rules and a list of commands that you can use, see this answer on Puzzling Meta. Have fun!

PiIsNot3

!who

Shiro

We are currently waiting for a clue from the Blue spymaster.

PiIsNot3

Oh what?

El'endia Starman

what the-

John Dvorak

23:12

Blue: Huge(3)

PiIsNot3

!who

Shiro

Blue currently has 4 guesses remaining.

PiIsNot3

JUPITER

Shiro

JUPITER is Blue

PiIsNot3

OK, we're good now

Why didn't the first one work though?

msh210

23:14

I like microscope>Europe>Mexico

not sure what else it could be

El'endia Starman

I need to head out soonish. Like, preferably 15 minutes at most.

PiIsNot3

Hmm, I don't really have a preference between the remaining words

It's probably not SPELL or NINJA, since I think one of those is the remaining "Water" word

Besides that, all the others work, if not a bit stretchy

msh210

huge horn, like Gabriel? I'm very weak on my Christianity...

PiIsNot3

@msh210 Maybe, or something like a unicorn's horn

Circles and plates both can be huge

msh210

or a cornucopia

PiIsNot3

23:16

And Tokyo is a huge metropolis

msh210

or however you spell it (smacks self)

PiIsNot3

@msh210 I think that's the right spelling, no need to bash yourself

msh210

@PiIsNot3 oh. ok.

!board

Shiro

PiIsNot3

Although I do think MICROSCOPE more closely relates to the clue than any of the others

Or maybe we're not supposed to play it cause "micro" and "huge" are opposites...

If that's the case, I'm more inclined to play EUROPE over MICROSCOPE

msh210

23:19

yeah, probably one of those two but we have two guesses anyway and we have to take both of them so the order doesn't really matter if we agree that those two are 1 & 2 in some order

PiIsNot3

Just to be safe, I prefer EUROPE over MICROSCOPE. If EUROPE is OK, then we'll deliberate some more

msh210

plate is huge in plate tectonics

@PiIsNot3 sure, if you like

PiIsNot3

OK, let's see, let's see...

EUROPE

Shiro

EUROPE is Blue

PiIsNot3

Oh, jeez, that was close

...I honestly have no idea what to play now. All of the options save for SPELL and NINJA work

msh210

23:22

I still like microscope

and I don't really see how circle works

PiIsNot3

It's probably not MEXICO or TOKYO - if EUROPE is "huge", then those are probably simply "big"

msh210

I'm trying to think of the other verb meaning of spell and can't seem to

d'you know?

besides "indicate letters"

PiIsNot3

It's interesting that our SM went for "Huge" instead of "Big" actually

msh210

or "form a word"

@PiIsNot3 true

PiIsNot3

@msh210 A spell is an incantation that witches and wizards cast

msh210

23:24

verb sense

oh I know!

I remembered --- it means to substitute for someone in a shift

PiIsNot3

"Spell it out" means to explain in great detail

msh210

(I think)

PiIsNot3

OK, does that relate to "Huge" though?

msh210

but ok that's not relevant (if it's right)

@PiIsNot3 no, but now I know it doesn't and can stop worrying about it :-)

PiIsNot3

I actually am liking MICROSCOPE a bit better now, since "Huge" implies things that are actually really big, bigger than you'd normally think of them as

CIRCLE, HORN, and PLATE seem to me to be generic references, not specific enough

msh210

23:26

@PiIsNot3 right

PiIsNot3

And I think we can rule out TOKYO and MEXICO

msh210

@PiIsNot3 not so sure

PiIsNot3

Since they aren't huge in the way Europe is

msh210

but I think microscope is better

PiIsNot3

They aren't made up of sovereign nations, for instance

OK, I'm set on MICROSCOPE now, if I made any errors in my logic, you have permission to shoot me

msh210

23:28

@PiIsNot3 well, Europe isn't huge in the way Jupiter is, eitheer

but Tokyo is huge for what it is, a city

(more so than Europe, arguably)

PiIsNot3

Hmm, I guess, but wouldn't there be a better clue for JUPITER + EUROPE + TOKYO then?

msh210

@PiIsNot3 placename

PiIsNot3

MEXICO could've been gotten, which may or may not be the assassin

msh210

fine, so microscope?

@PiIsNot3 oh oops, right

@PiIsNot3 then what?

PiIsNot3

We only have one shot at this...

We both seem to be agreeing on MICROSCOPE, though for me it's only because the other options don't seem to be nearly as strong

msh210

23:30

the world watches with bated breath and baited hooks

PiIsNot3

Welp, here goes nothing...

MICROSCOPE

Shiro

MICROSCOPE is Yellow (neutral)
It is now Red's turn

msh210

pfft

Shiro

PiIsNot3

...darn

John Dvorak

23:30

Another variant suggestion: Murphy's misery: Whenever a team considers guessing the assassin, the opposing SM may interject and force the team to guess it.

caird coinheringaahing

What is "considering"?

El'endia Starman

Red: CAPITAL (1)

PiIsNot3

@JohnDvorak Oh boy, I think I know what's coming up in your log now...

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Tokyo

caird coinheringaahing

Tokyo?

msh210

23:31

@El'endiaStarman um?

I see two.

El'endia Starman

@JohnDvorak That'd end so many games much sooner.

John Dvorak

@PiIsNot3 so, what do you think is the assassin? :P

caird coinheringaahing

TOKYO

Shiro

TOKYO is Red

PiIsNot3

@JohnDvorak I'll just keep it to myself :)

msh210

23:32

@JohnDvorak What's "force"?

caird coinheringaahing

GG

msh210

gg

El'endia Starman

963253676

I am the Red Spymaster, up against John Dvorak for Blue.

Red words: AIR, MUG, DOG, TOKYO, SLIP, ROSE, STREAM, SCUBA DIVER, BOARD
Blue words: BELT, STOCK, JUPITER, EUROPE, PORT, LIGHT, ROBOT, MEXICO
Yellow words: SUPERHERO, PLATE, HORN, SPELL, BILL, MICROSCOPE, NINJA
Assassin: CIRCLE

This looks like a pretty sweet board for me.

SCUBA DIVER + (surf) BOARD + STREAM + MUG = WATER (4), perhaps? The surfboard part isn't immediately obvious. I could go with OCEAN (3) and eat PORT (blue) when my team inevitably guesses it.

PiIsNot3

!finalboard

Shiro

PiIsNot3

23:32

Darn, it was MEXICO

John Dvorak

@msh210 order to

20191121

I'm blue and second.

Blue words: Belt, Stock, Jupiter, Europe, Port, Light, Robot, Mexico
Black: Circle

I have three locations, but Tokyo's red. No other conflict.
Ship seems to cover a lot loosely, but it also has some red FPs
Recharge for Robot / Light / Port? Light could easily miss. Spell/Y exists. Some charge indicators are Circles. Joy. Oh, and it's a Stream/R of energy.
Any harbor city that's both in Mexico and Europe?
Light + Port could be "Web Version" or something? Stream/R big risk.

PiIsNot3

@El'endiaStarman ROSE could've worked for "Water" as well, since roses are plants that need water

@JohnDvorak Knowing how you clue things, "Japan (0)" would've worked out nicely for us :)

John Dvorak

Noted to use that strategy next time

PiIsNot3

> You know what, Pi, I think you only like Circle because of nepotism!

I resemble that statement!

Thanks for the games! Gotta do other stuff now

\o

msh210

@El'endiaStarman for water=board I thought waterboarding, not surfing

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

23:38

o\

John Dvorak

"Japan's flag has a CIRCLE on it. >_< "

Now that would have been the perfect plot twist!

El'endia Starman

@msh210 Yeah, I realized that connection later and went "oh, that works too!".

msh210

@El'endiaStarman yeah, it's very effective, albeit illegal

John Dvorak

As a clue, it is perfectly legal!

msh210

@JohnDvorak yeah... I meant the torture method

John Dvorak

23:46

That too is legal if you have the government permission

msh210

@JohnDvorak yeah... that's what legal means :-)

John Dvorak

Also, it's called "enhanced interrogation technique"

msh210

@JohnDvorak right, sorry

John Dvorak

> Waterboarding at Guantanamo sounds like an awesome vacation if you don't know what either of these means

El'endia Starman

Too true.

msh210

23:49

@El'endiaStarman "Hah, three of four players on that team are not American, including the SM!" For some reason I thought @PiIsNot3 was American.

@JohnDvorak heh

El'endia Starman

@msh210 Californian, I believe.

Oh, are you American?

msh210

@El'endiaStarman ah then you were right, not American

El'endia Starman

If so, I apologize!

@msh210 oooooh spicy

msh210

@El'endiaStarman by upbringing and citizenship, though not by residence

I moved here relatively recently.

here=Israel

El'endia Starman

Ah-ha, that explains it.

msh210

23:51

@El'endiaStarman no need

and I think you wrote that comment with regard to guns... but though I'm American I don't know guns (I think that's just a stereotype) and have certainly seen more machine guns since moving here than I did in the States

caird coinheringaahing

@El'endiaStarman It's mean if the trolling can be reasonably be believed

msh210

@cairdcoinheringaahing you almost had me . . . my astronomy is really weak ;-)

@msh210 @El'endiaStarman Ah, no, Googling a bit tells me that the gun that I apparently see a lot of is actually a submachine gun, not a machine gun.

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