Codenames

user58

19:00

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BOOM, STRING, LEMON, TOKYO, ENGLAND, STAR, PAN, LUCK, KING.

Assassin is CHICK.

This is a bit of a stretch, but "nuclear" = STAR, BOOM, TOKYO. It wasn't Tokyo, but still Japan, so... tenuous. but worth a shot.

(gives "nuclear" clue)

DJMcMay sees BOOM and STAR right away. Good.

Oh, Chernobyl. Forgot about Chernobyl. :|

caird joins, campaigning for BOOM and TOKYO.

"The city connections seem just a bit tenuous." - They are tenuous. That is true.

...all the other stuff they're considering is yellow, so I'm okay with it for now.

John Dvorak

3mi Island was intentional ;)

Avi

looks like my "help" was only 1/2 useful :P

DJMcMayhem

Haha, PAN is really funny

John Dvorak

It would have been epic if they actually went for the Chick.

user58

That (5) was devastating.

DJMcMayhem

19:01

I even thought about peter pan, but not in the context of island

caird coinheringaahing

@user58 It's been a while since I read up on Greek mythology :P

Avi

well

the 3 fates

are 3 chicks

DJMcMayhem

The plural on Fates was helpful

user58

More crones than chicks.

Avi

XD

never tell them that

user58

19:02

@DJMcMayhem Yeah, that was the point. :P

Avi

or sn1p sn4p your lifeline :(

user58

Anyway, kudos to @John, that was an impressive clue

Avi

which clue

El'endia Starman

Incidentally, with regards to external research, that rule isn't starred in here, in the Meta post, or on the Wikipedia page for Codenames.

user58

It's one of those general conventions for all the games...

Avi

19:03

No external research allowed in Codenames!!! Not even as Spymaster (SM)!!

star that ^

John Dvorak

I'm imagining the look on other players' faces if one of them whipped out a phone and started reciting a Wikipedia article relevant to the clue.

El'endia Starman

@user58 First time I've played any Puzzling.SE games though.

Avi

@JohnDvorak lmao

user58

I'mma add that to the summary answer on meta

caird coinheringaahing

@JohnDvorak We've had that in real life games before :P

John Dvorak

19:05

I agree it should be added

caird coinheringaahing

Only the SM knew anything about the clue

Rubiksmoose

It's pretty standard rule for any table games too. It might even be in the rulebook. Oh well. We all know now and thats the important thing.

John Dvorak

There's a gameshow where the host reads a Wikipedia article, then describes it, and the players try to guess where the article goes.

El'endia Starman

@JohnDvorak Tom Scott! Citation Needed

John Dvorak

Bingo!

Needs more seasons

DJMcMayhem

19:07

o/

John Dvorak

0/

caird coinheringaahing

o/

El'endia Starman

@JohnDvorak Agreed. Well, supposedly Two of These People are Lying is a sort of sequel.

o\ Need to do work.

John Dvorak

Also, sorely needs more seasons of parallel thinking

Avi

o/

user58

19:08

0/

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

0/

John Dvorak

I thought Two of these People are Lying came before Citation Needed

Rubiksmoose

o/

John Dvorak

I do love Two of These though

Avi

I can do SM without commentary, if nobody else wants to

John Dvorak

19:09

Against User58?

Avi

user58 did o/ not O/

John Dvorak

that was a 0/

Avi

oh, it's 0/

John Dvorak

big difference

Avi

big difference

why not +/ -/ and 0/

user58

19:11

I've added the conventions to this answer.

Rubiksmoose

@Avi Khuldraeseth also is indicating they can.

Avi

nevermind - my website was zoomed out

John Dvorak

oO/ ?

Avi

now I can tell the difference

O/

John Dvorak

Actually, external research is allowed in Spyfall

To know what the location is, at least. Not for the specifics.

Rubiksmoose

19:13

@JohnDvorak oh?

user58

@JohnDvorak Oh? When I played we said that it wasn't allowed.

....although that was what, a year ago now? It's been forever since I played Spyfall.

caird coinheringaahing

It's not like it's really going to affect anything, is it?

John Dvorak

When I asked about it, everyone agreed it was OK, then never saw another discussion on the topic

El'endia Starman

@user58 I might've overlooked that, but at least there's a good place for it now, so :+1:.

John Dvorak

what isn't allowed is to say you Googled, because that means you aren't the spy.

The only way research could matter is if you got called out for spying because you didn't know what your job description / location meant

Generally, that makes for a less fun game if it happens

user58

19:17

Yeah. Apparently it's been 8 months since the last time I played Spyfall. Sheesh.

...would anyone be interested in Spyfall?

DJMcMayhem

Spyfall is a lot less enjoyable for me than contact or codenames

user58

In any case, can we get a show of hands again here?

0/

John Dvorak

I like Spyfall. The problem is getting players.

0/

DJMcMayhem

o/

John Dvorak

We do have enough people for Spyfall right now

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

19:19

0/

John Dvorak

K v A it is then :)

DJMcMayhem

@JohnDvorak Doesn't codenames require more people?

Avi

kva?

O/

DJMcMayhem

Khuld vs Avi I think

Avi

kk

user58

19:20

!newgame Khuldraeseth na'Barya, Avi, John Dvorak, user58, DJMcMayhem

Shiro

RED: Avi, DJMcMayhem, John Dvorak

BLUE: Khuldraeseth na'Barya, user58, PiIsNot3

RED spymaster only, please click on this link to see the seed: https://onetimesecret.com/secret/ro57bd9q0uv9r9d68kru297dem63lgy
BLUE spymaster only, please click on this link to see the seed: https://onetimesecret.com/secret/9dkcdbd7r9gmzc3zzyvkmrsptebi1b1

Please save the seed somewhere! As a last resort if any of you happens to forget the seed, you can type !recall to get a new link.

John Dvorak

Both need at least four to be reasonably playable

PiIsNot3

!join

Shiro

Hi PiIsNot3, you'll be joining team blue!

BLUE: Khuldraeseth na'Barya, user58, PiIsNot3

DJMcMayhem

I thought spyfall works with 3

John Dvorak

19:21

Not really - with three people the asking order is determined by the first player

PiIsNot3

!who

Shiro

We are currently waiting for a clue from the Blue spymaster.

John Dvorak

brb

Rubiksmoose

!join

Shiro

Hi Rubiksmoose, you'll be joining team red!

Rubiksmoose

19:29

But I'll be in and out a bit

Shiro

RED: Avi, DJMcMayhem, John Dvorak, Rubiksmoose

DJMcMayhem

Shiro's pins are a mess

user58

→ 6 messages moved to Trash

caird coinheringaahing

!join

Shiro

Hi caird coinheringaahing, you'll be joining team blue!

BLUE: Khuldraeseth na'Barya, user58, PiIsNot3, caird coinheringaahing

user58

19:30

SM should avoid saying anything about the words on the board... or really anything connected to the game.

3

PiIsNot3

Why is there a room specifically for trashed messages?

user58

Quirk of the chat system.

DJMcMayhem

So that Room Owners can move messages there

PiIsNot3

I mean, anyone can see the messages in the room, so it's not really removing them

DJMcMayhem

But it allows non-moderators to soft-remove messages

PiIsNot3

19:32

Just storing them in a different location

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

(still thinking)

DJMcMayhem

@PiIsNot3 Also, the move functionality is very useful for when messages genuinely belong in a different room

PiIsNot3

@DJMcMayhem Oh, so it's not just room to trash, but room to different room as well?

DJMcMayhem

@user58 On a related note, players of the team that isn't guessing should avoid saying things connected to the game too

@PiIsNot3 Correct

PiIsNot3

Ah, that definitely sounds useful :)

Avi

19:36

sort of red-dy

@Khuldraesethna'Barya how's it going

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Blue: Home run (3)

PiIsNot3

!board

Shiro

DJMcMayhem

PiIsNot3

Change the image host?

user58

19:38

BALL, PLAY

DJMcMayhem

It doesn't work when you request the same image twice in a row

caird coinheringaahing

Yard, Ball and Play?

user58

AMERICA

PiIsNot3

BALL and PLAY are obvious

caird coinheringaahing

Ooh, didn't see America

John Dvorak

19:38

FR: instead of failing silently, repost the previous URL

caird coinheringaahing

I prefer America to Yard

PiIsNot3

If "places where home runs can be seen" was intended, then WASHINGTON and EUROPE can also fit

Washington Nationals, and Europe may have some pro baseball leagues

John Dvorak

Home run - is that a sequel to Chicken Run, in which the fowl collectively decides that life on the loose isn't for them and now they have to get back home somehow?

caird coinheringaahing

Ball = Play > America > Yard?

PiIsNot3

A home run might DROP into the stands

Yeah, I'm most confident about BALL and PLAY atm

user58

19:42

BALL > PLAY > AMERICA

PiIsNot3

Not sure about AMERICA though, since WASHINGTON can also fit in that category too

user58

Nahhh. Baseball is America's pastime ;)

John Dvorak

The President watched 2019's movies???

Avi

@JohnDvorak shhhh

PiIsNot3

@user58 But the Nats won the World Series by hitting home runs, so...

Let's do BALL then PLAY first, get those out of the way

DJMcMayhem

19:44

Ping me when it's our turn

user58

BALL

Shiro

BALL is Blue

user58

PLAY

Avi

@DJMcMayhem That was fast

Shiro

PLAY is Red
Seriously?
It is now Red's turn

user58

19:45

wat

Shiro

PiIsNot3

Nevermind

John Dvorak

LUL

Avi

Red: PISA (3)

DJMcMayhem

Oh

Tower is obvious

John Dvorak

19:45

There's a leaning tower in there, but why all-caps?

DJMcMayhem

And then Europe I suppose

John Dvorak

Drop, maybe?

TOWER

Shiro

TOWER is Red

DJMcMayhem

@JohnDvorak Why?

John Dvorak

Because it looks like it's about to fall down

or things from it

I'm fine with Europe

DJMcMayhem

19:47

The tower is circular

John Dvorak

I wouldn't say it's a circle...

DJMcMayhem

Cylindrical then?

John Dvorak

Cylinder, maybe

Europe first though

DJMcMayhem

Agreed

John Dvorak

EUROPE

Shiro

19:48

EUROPE is Red

DJMcMayhem

Any thoughts @Rubiksmoose ?

John Dvorak

drop > circle

Rubiksmoose

@JohnDvorak famous piza experiment was dropping things from it

John Dvorak

That, too

Rubiksmoose

Let me take a look at the board though real quick

John Dvorak

19:49

drop >> circle

DJMcMayhem

@Rubiksmoose Galileo?

@JohnDvorak Yeah, ~~circle~~

Rubiksmoose

@DJMcMayhem Yup

John Dvorak

Galileo -> revolution would be a huge stretch

DJMcMayhem

I didn't know that was specifically The Tower of Pisa

Rubiksmoose

Tower + Drop

John Dvorak

19:50

DROP

Shiro

DROP is Red

Rubiksmoose

Gotta be

DJMcMayhem

Sweet

John Dvorak

[pass]

Shiro

DJMcMayhem

19:51

That's a decent start

John Dvorak

d'aww, almost got a bingo

PiIsNot3

@user58 @cairdcoinheringaahing OK, so AMERICA, YARD, and WASHINGTON are on the backburner

Rubiksmoose

Clearly we need to guess paper next oround to get a bingo

dang ninjad

DJMcMayhem

hehe

PiIsNot3

@Rubiksmoose We took the free space though, so that won't work :)

Rubiksmoose

19:52

lol

John Dvorak

Red can still score bingo, though. Technically

CMC: determine the probability of a bingo board for Codenames

PiIsNot3

@JohnDvorak Yellows included?

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Yellow included?

John Dvorak

yellows included

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

gah

PiIsNot3

19:53

@Khuldraesethna'Barya hehe

DJMcMayhem

I'd be really interested to see some stats on this game. Like, overall how big of an advantage is going first? Are you more likely to win with more players, or less?

It would be fun to scrape this transcript and analyze some of that

John Dvorak

I would expect that more than one guesser is a massive advantage

DJMcMayhem

Does that decline after some number of players?

Avi

I would expect that not being interrupted by someone on the other team mid-turn is a massive advantage

John Dvorak

@Avi nah

DJMcMayhem

19:55

I could see 2 guessers winning way more often than 1, but maybe 3 or 4 hurts

user58

Stepping out for a bit

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Blue: Snow White (3)

DJMcMayhem

You could also analyze win rates for specific players, both as SMers and guessers

PiIsNot3

@DJMcMayhem On the contrary, I think having many guessers increases the team's ability to find connections

John Dvorak

Even with infinitely many players, you can't achieve perfect play if the cluer screws up

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

19:56

Having two guessers is probably bad when I'm the second

El'endia Starman

There's also the problem of guessers coming up with outlandish connections.

PiIsNot3

Anyway, back to the game

!board

caird coinheringaahing

DWARF

Shiro

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

caird coinheringaahing

19:57

100%

John Dvorak

I suppose that with extremely many players, managing communication becomes nightmare

Avi

have to put it in bold if you're guessing, **DWARF**

PiIsNot3

DWARF for the fairy tale connection

caird coinheringaahing

Poison?

PiIsNot3

POISON as well, yes

caird coinheringaahing

19:57

@Avi Not guessing just yet

Avi

kk

John Dvorak

Gotta say it. Twitch Plays Codenames.

caird coinheringaahing

Letting my teammates weigh in

PiIsNot3

I don't really see any other obvious ones

caird coinheringaahing

DWARF

PiIsNot3

19:58

Wait, is Snow White the one with the poisoned apple? Or was it Sleeping Beauty?

Shiro

DWARF is Blue

El'endia Starman

@JohnDvorak Oh that's brilliant.

caird coinheringaahing

POISON

Shiro

POISON is Blue

caird coinheringaahing

@PiIsNot3 Snow White

PiIsNot3

19:59

OK I guess that answers that question

caird coinheringaahing

Sleeping Beauty is the needle prick

PiIsNot3

Yeah, I just remembered now, thanks

caird coinheringaahing

Should we guess any from Home Run?

PiIsNot3

There's still one more for the current clue though

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