Codenames

I don't think Soccer (0) is meant to be the ultimate game-winning get-everything clue; I think trying to find connections like nut=nutmeg=soccer in an attempt to narrow from 20 down to 9 is a fool's errand

I think we should guess something reasonable using the positive information from the first clue, rather than guess entirely based on the negative information from this clue

Erik the Outgolfer

so, you suggest guessing SPY then DRESS then pass?

ManyPinkHats

10:24 PM

I don't think DRESS should be guessed; I think that, unless you've really managed to narrow it down precisely, guesses should not be made on negative information

Erik the Outgolfer

hm, so I'd say let's go with SPY first

ManyPinkHats

Agreed.

SPY

Joey Dionne

spy is blue

dcfyj

I'm confused why dress was ever a thought

John Dvorak

Now for the real question: Black and blue, or yellow and white?

Erik the Outgolfer

10:26 PM

hey, they're trying to distract us again!

John Dvorak

Do or do not. There is no try.

Erik the Outgolfer

@ManyPinkHats hm, would CLIFF be a good guess?

dcfyj

@JohnDvorak Either banana or yes

ManyPinkHats

At this point, I would prefer to pass. Spy=James Bond suggests LONDON to me, but then two problems arise: 1) why not clue James Bond instead of just Bond? and 2) London/UK has some connection to soccer (0)

Erik the Outgolfer

wouldn't passing be a bit risky here? they have 3 words left, we have 8

damn you Hindenburg

dcfyj

10:30 PM

brb

ManyPinkHats

OK, I see your point; feel free to make some guesses

Erik the Outgolfer

nvm

Mithrandir

*yawns*

it's getting a bit late

John Dvorak

I will also note that any guess you now make bears a 5% chance of assassination, per guess.

Erik the Outgolfer

DRESS

ffao

10:32 PM

dress is blue

John Dvorak

OK, how is dress not related to soccer?

[pass]

RED IGLOO (2)

3-7, red must be shaking right now

Erik the Outgolfer

10:33 PM

now every clue has a 5.(5)% chance of assassination :P

John Dvorak

shaking my head indeed

Mithrandir

COLD, ???

John Dvorak

That pass was a killer move

Erik the Outgolfer

bewaaare of the 5.(5)%...

dcfyj

back

cold

block?

Mithrandir

10:36 PM

COLD

Joey Dionne

cold is red

Mithrandir

BLOCK is plausible.

dcfyj

I see it more as a blue word :P (cold)

yes, I think he probably meant block, I don't really see anything else offhand

Erik the Outgolfer

~5.88%...

Mithrandir

what say you, @John?

John Dvorak

10:37 PM

oh, I missed we had a clue. I like block.

BLOCK

block is red

What's left?

6.25% now

10:38 PM

Did we have an unfnished HINDENBURG clue?

John Dvorak

that one's done

dcfyj

All our clue are done

I'm happy passing

gas/air/death/firre

[pass]

10:39 PM

and now, we shall not [pass]!

Mithrandir

let's please finish this game before it gets to 2AM here ;)

John Dvorak

You shall not pass!

Joey Dionne

where are you from?, it's only 6:40 PM here

ffao

BLUE: object, 6

John Dvorak

0:40

Erik the Outgolfer

10:40 PM

1:40

Mithrandir

@JoeyDionne Middle East. It's currently 1:39AM.

John Dvorak

def leprechaun

Erik the Outgolfer

so, a NUT is definitely an object

dcfyj

@ffao seriously? If that pulls off awesome

ManyPinkHats

I thought you ruled out NUT in your soccer connections, maybe put it towards the end of the list

Erik the Outgolfer

10:41 PM

@ffao don't succumb to them making fun of you, be courageous

a NUT is also a kind of screw

ManyPinkHats

Yes, but many other things are objects too, so let's focus on the ones that didn't even tangentially relate to Soccer (0) first, yeah?

John Dvorak

such as ball?

Erik the Outgolfer

hm, I agree, you seem to have a deeper approach in mind

so, a CLIFF is definitely not an object

ManyPinkHats

I think Object is meant to eliminate Leprechaun, London, and maybe Cliff and Phoenix from our guesses, in terms of People vs. Place vs. Thing

dcfyj

I see quite a few words that work for object (more than 6)

John Dvorak

10:44 PM

There's also the verb meaning of "object"

Erik the Outgolfer

on the other hand, the opponents ruled out MUG for us in the Soccer clue, so I'd say let's put it in the first positions

ManyPinkHats

that leaves LOG, MUG, SATELLITE, BUTTON, and maybe OIL as ones that are definitely objects but not definitely soccer-related

Erik the Outgolfer

is OIL an object?

John Dvorak

... and a french horn is a great way to object.

Erik the Outgolfer

I thought it's a liquid

ManyPinkHats

10:45 PM

Yeah, I'm not as sure about OIL, so it moves low priority as well

maybe even below NUT, since the NUT-soccer connection was somewhat tenuous

Erik the Outgolfer

and...SATELLITE is pretty big of an object

but it definitely goes above NUT

ManyPinkHats

Agreed, still above NUT and OIL, but perhaps below LOG.MUG.BUTTON

wanna just guess LOG MUG and BUTTON and see if we're still in it?

Erik the Outgolfer

so, those three are still unordered, right?

ManyPinkHats

Yeah, for now, unless you have a suggestion

Erik the Outgolfer

I'd say a MUG and a BUTTON are more object-y than a LOG

ManyPinkHats

10:47 PM

Sure

Which do you want to guess first then: MUG or BUTTON?

Whichever one, just make your guess

Erik the Outgolfer

and a MUG even looks like an example of an object, so it goes on top of BUTTON

dcfyj

ball :)

Erik the Outgolfer

just explaining here before guessing

dcfyj

I object to your object clue!

Erik the Outgolfer

here's your objection

MUG

ffao

10:48 PM

mug is blue

ha!

BUTTON

button is blue

LOG

red!

10:49 PM

log is blue

John Dvorak

ka-ching!

Mithrandir

@JohnDvorak ?

Erik the Outgolfer

@dcfyj no, you won't convince me you're a spymaster

dcfyj

lol

John Dvorak

dang

Erik the Outgolfer

10:49 PM

SATELLITE

satellite is blue

!board

NUT

nut is blue

10:50 PM

FOOT

ManyPinkHats

I think NUT and HORN's connection to soccer aren't as strong, and I think POST might be a goalpost

Erik the Outgolfer

NUT is out already :D

now, should I guess OIL or risk a pass? (they've just got 1 left)

ManyPinkHats

I think HORN, OIL, and CLIFF are probably the best options

dcfyj

pass of course

ManyPinkHats

Definitely no passing at this point

John Dvorak

10:51 PM

Risk a pass

Erik the Outgolfer

you reds will not tell us what to do!

lol

That's teamist

sigh

yup

10:52 PM

HORN

purple!

horn is yellow :(

sorry

!board

I'm ok with this

10:52 PM

well, I had to go for it

Joey Dionne

RED : TOE (1)

dcfyj

heh foot

Erik the Outgolfer

!board I say, haven't you updated yet?

!board

Mithrandir

FOOT

Joey Dionne

foot is red

ManyPinkHats

10:53 PM

I think maybe you're just not on the whitelist, Erik

Joey Dionne

gg ^^

dcfyj

!finalboard

ManyPinkHats

the whitelist for using commands

Shiro

Erik the Outgolfer

does the board really require a whitelist? :/

dcfyj

10:53 PM

yes

Mithrandir

!whitelist 80316

ffao

Bond, 2: Bond is capitalized, so LONDON and SPY. (why not James Bond? I have very mixed feelings towards clues that are not a single word, and would rather not use them myself.)

Hindenburg, 4: well I know this was coming, red's clue practically wrote itself. We are only winning this by extreme luck now, time to hail mary

soccer, 0: basically means "do not guess BALL, FOOT, BLOCK, POST and CLUB, feel free to go wild with guesses" since this is basically random now. I expected them to get the two Bond ones now, but I missed London's connection to soccer... This could prove very problematic :/

John Dvorak

yes

dcfyj

Most commands do

Joey Dionne

DEATH BLOCK FIRE GAS AIR FOOT COLD CONTRACT

Assassin : BALL

Hindenburg can be a nice clue for DEATH FIRE GAS and AIR

blue goes BOND (2) for SPY and LONDON
and they go CONTRACT? thanks

HINDENBURG (4) DEATH checked, FIRE checked, GAS checked, AIR checked
now, need to think other clues for BLOCK FOOT and COLD

maybe igloo for COLD and BLOCK?
sock for FOOT and COLD

soccer 0, interesting. no ball, club, foo, but no london too so they shouldn't finish in one clue. ffao need to go for it because of the lead we have.

Mithrandir

10:54 PM

Well. Good game and good night.

Joey Dionne

good night!

ManyPinkHats

GG

Surprisingly close, given the disastrous start

Erik the Outgolfer

I have to go now

ffao

Red's board was much better than ours