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4:00 AM
i can't see any other possibilities, so im ok with those
 
rabbit seems closer than dog, lead with that?
 
sure
RABBIT
 
rabbit be red
 
DOG
 
yay
 
4:01 AM
dog be blue
 
yay
 
oh no
 
awh what
 
!board
 
if it were both of them the clue would have been animal related
 
4:01 AM
 
although with velvet i haven't got a clue either :P
 
well what on earth would fit..... COLD?
 
OK, I think the next TSA is Pistol
 
that was a mean clue for only 2 words
 
possibly marble?
like how there was a rubber -> plastic clue earlier, theyre both materials
 
4:03 AM
ahh, velvet and marbel kinda fit because they would both be in a fancy home :D
 
I thought that, since they're both materials.... so different though
 
Blue turn, BTW
 
yeah rabbit and marble are totally different
 
yeah, at least rubber and plastic are both synthetic
 
its possible he didnt intend rabbit for velvet though
 
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4:03 AM
BLUE SYNTHESIZER, 2
 
[pass]
 
 
uh oh
 
gg guys
 
shiro broken?
 
4:04 AM
!reboot
 
It was too close to call.
 
just refresh.... it uploads async
 
!board
 
 
better
 
4:05 AM
lord.. why does 0' give clues for random words. first its an american only company and now this
 
we can play without the board tbh
 
Sid
Wasn't there an image-host option to change the hosting site? From puush to imgur for instance?
 
!imagehost imgur
 
@ffao change host to imgur?
 
!board
 
4:06 AM
 
synthesizer... the only thing im getting for it is link
 
link, maybe plate
 
why plate?
 
oh, beat
 
why beat?
 
4:07 AM
beat, link
beat because music
 
synthesizers are related to music and rhythm, hence beat
 
ooh
I didn't know, go for it
 
and they're digital, so... code?
 
BEAT
 
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beat is blue
 
4:08 AM
I kinda like code
 
beats are generally red to purple actually
 
yeah if its rhythm then code would be best
 
that's beets
 
bears, beets, battlestar galactica
 
Not fan of either code or link
 
4:08 AM
Any objections to CODE?
 
but go for it
 
CODE
 
i got that reference Mike xD
 
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code is blue
 
classic office
 
4:09 AM
I think we're done then
 
ok, it's possible that the 4th TSA was also for CODE, and we should pass
 
[PASS]
 
unless the 4th for TSA is stil up
wait
 
 
you get one more...
 
4:10 AM
more likely last TSA was beat
 
so code and synth are both 0
sorry
TSA and synth both have nothing left
 
@Jesse FYI about the rules: If the clue is Word (X), then we can make up to X+1 guesses
 
passes are undoable.
since they don't reveal anything
 
I stand by it
 
Ok I'm going then
 
4:11 AM
@MikeQ but we had guessed all of the clues, SYNTHESIZER and TSA both seem like they are used up
 
RED: MINOTAUR (2)
 
it would have been a random guess
 
ok so greece
 
buck and calf?
ah that fits too
 
why only 2
 
4:12 AM
it says 2
 
I typed 3 earlier by accident. It has been corrected.
 
no I know I mean only giving us 3 guesses basiclly seals our fate
minotaurs have horns, so I'd say buck over calf
 
we'll see
 
greece, buck seem good?
 
yeah i would guess buck then greece
we can do greece first
GREECE
 
4:14 AM
greece is red
 
technically speaking, the minotaur was a legendary monster, and thus unique
 
BUCK
 
buck is blue
 
Sid
...
I am really interested to know what some of these clues were...
 
sheeit
whats the bottom half of minotaur again? its a horse right
 
4:15 AM
why do you do this to us
 
Sid
@dooog Bull and Man, I think
 
a minotaur is a half human half bull
you are thinking centaur @dooog
 
so i guess calf wouldve fit better
ahhhhhh yeah whoops
 
minotaur has a bull head with human figure
 
yeah calf was better guess there in retrospect
 
4:16 AM
calves dont have horns and can be male or female. it was still bad.
 
i would still have said buck :D
 
well at least calf and bull are the same species
 
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BLUE: BLACK, 2
 
Horses don't have bottom halves
 
!board
 
4:16 AM
mole, mass
 
 
i think this one is pretty clear
ooh marble maybe
you can get black marble
 
@Jesse why mole + mass = black ?
ninjas are often depicted as wearing black
 
indeed they are
 
Def ninja
 
4:18 AM
actually wore dark blue tho
 
and gunmetal is black
 
@Sid sorry forgot you joined our team haha
 
@quartata actually they dressed in common clothes, because they didn't want to stand out, but that's not really important right now
 
black mass is a thing, and a movie, moles are black, marble can be black and ninjas are classic black
i think ninja is the safest. its more iconic
NINJA
 
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ninja is blue
 
4:20 AM
im not sure, mole can be brown if you mean on the skin, and my tie in with a weight measurement does not work because ninja was one
so im leaning towards marble or mass now
 
black mass sounds familiar, but i cant remember what it is
 
probably marble
 
Black ninjas come from Japanese theaters, where stage hands wore black clothing and viewers knew to ignore them.
 
black mass is a scientific term, but it is also a movie
 
... scientific term?
 
4:21 AM
i am not positive..
i was thinking along the lines of dark matter
 
You mean dark matter?
 
yeah
plus black holes are very heavy xD
but we are getting a bit tangential.. im happy to lock in marble
 
Maybe it's a Catholic thing?
 
no its not
its a space thing
 
different meaning of mass there.
 
4:22 AM
Black mass isn't a space thing.
 
dark matter was discovered by its affect on other galaxies that we have noticed
so its a space thing
and black holes are in space
 
Dark matter =/= black mass
 
yeah i realise that
i got the wrong term
just say marble
MARBLE
 
Anyhow, I'm ruling out carrot, well, calf, plate, pumpkin, fish, link
oh. ok. the old Leeroy Jenkins strategy.
 
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marble is red
 
4:24 AM
marble is red baybe!
 
damn.. sorry guys
 
there we go baybee
 
!board
 
 
maybe he meant the movie? or he was mixing together black holes and dark matter like i was
 
4:25 AM
looks at Jesse's profile
> Gold Coast
wow that's really close
 
Sid
Anyway, CALF was probably Minotaur...
 
are you in brisbane or something?
 
yeah. pretty surprised how many people in Puzzling are here (or near here)
 
ok so weve got calf confirmed
 
red needs a (4) clue
 
4:25 AM
i lived there while i was at qut
 
Sid
So, if that is correct, WW should give us a (4) clue NOT cluing CALF again...
 
or perhaps unlimited and roll some dice
 
RED: Autumn unlimited.
 
pumpkin for sure, maybe cold, wind?
 
cold, wind, carrot maybe
let's lead off with pumpkin, calf, wind
 
4:29 AM
@sid objections?
 
Sid
Why Cold and Carrot?
Autumn is windy?
 
im not totally sold on carrot, but i could see cold, since autumn is kinda cold
 
I was thinking autumn harvest.
 
Sid
But, I have no objections on Pumpkin and Calf.
 
it is orange like pumpkins
is carrot cake an autumn thing?
PUMPKIN
 
4:31 AM
pumpnkin is red
 
CALF
 
Sid
(Although a better idea is that we just revisit the old clues and see what we have missed so far)
 
calf is red
 
ok ok
WINDY next?
 
Sid
What were the previous clues again?
 
4:32 AM
velvet 2, minotaur 2
 
autumn is pretty windy in most places, if not cold
 
maybe he clued velvet since red velvet is a cake, like carrot cake?
 
Cold fits velvet and autumn directy
 
i like cold here
is velvet known to be cold or something? I don't see the connection
 
velvet scarf or some such garment
 
4:34 AM
hmm alright
 
Sid
maybe go for it. It's not like we have much to lose right now.
 
COLD
 
cold is red
 
wind next?
 
Sid
Okay, 2 remaining.
 
4:35 AM
good, good
 
Sid
Even if Wind is correct, what's the last word?
 
still unsure of which 2 velvet would correspond to
 
!joingame
 
hello mic
 
4:36 AM
Hi micsthepick, you'll be joining team blue!
 
fairly confident in carrot
 
BLUE: 0 ', Jesse, John Dvorak, Mike Q, micsthepick
 
Sid
why carrot again?
 
yeah at first glance i would choose wind and carrot
 
whi is 0 ‘
 
4:36 AM
Joining in just to reap the fruits? :P
 
who*
 
go for windy frst?
 
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@micsthepick that's me
 
carrot since it seems like a fall thing
 
4:37 AM
and it's similar-ish to pumpkin
 
Sid
Carrot sounds more like a winter-thingy to me.
 
yeah lets go wind
 
wind seems directy reated to cod though... safer
 
he had to think of a clue for 4 words, maybe some were a stretch
 
WINDY
 
4:37 AM
Genetically, pumpkins are closer to humans than to carrots
 
windy is not on the board
but wind is yellow
 
Sid
err... Windy isn't on the board.
 
type it again
@quartata
 
WIND
 
doesnt matter. he said wind is yellow
 
4:38 AM
shiro needs to know
 
it matters for shiro to keep track
 
mhm
 
!board
 
 
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BLUE WEIGHT, 1
 
4:38 AM
sigh
 
this should be 2
 
mass?
 
id like to point out that mole is a unit of measurement
although its obviously mass
 
mole != mass
 
Mole is a unit of amount
 
4:39 AM
why is WW such a mean SM
 
6.023e23
 
obviously fish is a unit of weight
 
these are cruel clues
 
should I do it?
 
MASS
 
4:40 AM
how much does it weigh? 1 mole is a viable answer, although yes he clearly means mass
 
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mass is blue
 
yay i win
 
that was a really good showing at the end btw. Much better than I would have expected given my pretty shitty clue.
 
Sid
!finalboard
 
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4:40 AM
!finalboard
 
mass is actually different to weight
 
@Jesse no, it's not
 
 
VELVET was CZECH and RABBIT
 
Sid
4:41 AM
Okay. No way, we were going to get CZECH and WELL...
 
well, weight may change where mass doesn’t
 
MINOTAUR was CALF and GREECE
 
CZECH?
 
one mole of oxygen is sixteen times as heavy as one mole of hydrogen
 
4:41 AM
AUTUMN was PUMPKIN and COLD
 
haven't heard of it before though
 
@JohnDvorak yes. one mole of oxygen represents a specific WEIGHT of oxygen
Thus 1 mole of glucose weighs 180 g.
 
Velvet revolution. We know how to change the government type without bloodshed.
 
omg carrot was assassin
 
yes Velvet revolution and Velvet divorce were what I was thinking of
 
4:41 AM
@Jesse no.
 
ohhhhh
 
also velveteen rabbit
 
yeah after I thought of rabbit I was stuck on the material
 
hard to clue rabbit without carrot or mole
 
well done team
 
4:42 AM
very close tbh, it was just unfortunate that we chose 2 blue clues
 
:)))
 
hence dog for fur
 
weight = force caused by gravity
 
@JohnDvorak look it up, it is an amount yes. but in chemistry it is used as an amount of that substance with reference to a specific weight
mass is the amount of matter, which is different to weight if we are talking about physics
 
by the same logic, volume = mass
 
4:43 AM
which would be different for different substances
 
apparently black mass is a crime drama film, unrelated to outer space
 
black fish is a documentary
 
Put a mole of ozone into a closed box. Soon enough you'll have 1.5 moles of oxygen in there.
 
blanck mass is also an album
 
going to go through a cellular dark zone
 
4:44 AM
heat up the very same box to a few thousand K, and suddenly there's 3 moles inside.
plus a couple of moles of electrons
 
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@Jesse sorry about the TSA clue, I wanted to do airport security but since it was not a proper noun, I couldn't. I also considered expanding the acronym but I was worried that americans might miss it then.
 
TSA was a good clue
 
@0' with black mass were you thinking the movie? the albumn? or black holes?
 
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I was thinking black holes but the connection was super tenuous. I was mainly intending you guys to get ninja and then hoping you might get mass afterwards
 
called it xD spacey stuff was the right train of thought eheheh
 
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4:47 AM
For the record, the intended fourth word for TSA was DOG
 
ahhh
 
makes sense
 
sniffer dogs, fair enough
 
that works, yes
I did like BEAT, though
rematch?
 
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but I wasn't super concerned since the ones you might guess incidentally for that clue were blue or yellow
 
4:48 AM
I'll play
 
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I'm out, I gotta do homework
 
not me
 
can play, will have to wait to SM for when I get home
test
 
@JohnDvorak it sounds like you are well aware of the difference, but during that whole conversation this hilarious old highschool video kept popping up into my head: youtube.com/watch?v=1whMAIGNq7E
and the amount of moles of a substance is just its mass :D I just wanted to say it technically could technically be either. cabrillo.edu/~cfink/chp4.pdf
 
you mean molar mass?
 
5:00 AM
yeah thats what you use
to get the mass, from the moles
 
molar mass != mass
 
but you still need to convert
 
the point is they are related
 
mass and mole maybe
 
and since neither of them are technically weight, who knows :P
 
 
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11:23 AM
@Scrooble oh no, I was sleeping!
 

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