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12:00 AM
@b_jonas See the comments to this answer for a bit of a discussion about that.
 
@Alex missing link ^
 
@Jenayah Good catch.
 
no problem
 
The question is more whether Dobby only guided him to the destination (Shell Cottage that he's just been to) when Harry was really unsure he could direct the Apparition there, or he was also quick enough to help with the “Let your yearning to enter it flood from your mind to every particle of your body.” part? If Harry messes up the former, then they arrive somewhere else. If he messes up the latter, then Griphook gets splinched.
It doesn't look like Harry hesitated about the part where he has to carry Griphook and Dobby, but (1) it was a genuine emergency, (2) Harry can be a bit stupid when taking risks.
 
@b_jonas (3) Harry's got the 'title character" advantage
 
12:06 AM
But Dobby also announces that “Dobby has come to save Harry Potter and his friends!”.
@Jenayah Even with concentration checks for advanced magic he's never tried before? I thought Hermione was the one who's got the bonus there.
I'm not even sure it's a Concentration check. It's clearly not the ordinary Concentration check you need for casting spells, the one Harry keeps failing for silent spells in his combat with Snape.
That one just fizzles the spell if Harry fails it; failing the "every particle of your body" will Splinch.
 
@b_jonas Imperio worked quite well, though the requirements are unclear:
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Q: What are the requirements for Imperio?

aitchnyuFor using the Cruciatus Curse, the caster must really feel hate towards the recipient. Is there such a requirement for using the Imperius Curse? Is it available to only dark and powerful wizards?

 
Although I think the Splinching doesn't always happen, you get a Fortitude save, and I think both Harry and Griphook has high bonuses for that.
As in, even if Harry fails to concentrate on some particle of Griphook's body, the Fortitude save lets keep the body together, grabbing it by the other particles rather than tearing it apart.
There's also the question of how exactly Ron and Hermione got out. Did even Ron do Side-Along Apparition? Or Hermione could still Apparate in her damaged state and without a wand?
(The "without a wand" part is a really ugly and confusing debate, see scifi.stackexchange.com/q/102813/4918 )
This too … this is all evidence that Side-Along Apparition is not as hard as I assume. I might need to figure out a good question to ask here. I could ask how difficult Side-Along Apparition is; or I might ask how the Apparitions out from Malfoy Manor happened exactly.
I'll have to think about a good question and readjusting my opinion.
 
12:22 AM
@b_jonas yeay elaborated question :)
 
But it's too late for any of that. Good night for now.
 
Good night!
 
The former question, as in how difficult it is (and what the difficulty depends on), has the advantage that it tries to challenge my existing opinion, but the drawback that it's one of those rules questions where the real answer is that we have no clue, read the roolbook.
The latter question has the drawback that the part about Ron and Hermione might need a separate question from the side about Harry and Griphook and Dobby, the first one might be hard to answer because at this point they aren't focus characters, they're just assumed to be plot-warped to the hero when they're too far off-screen, and the question about Harry and Griphook and Dobby feels... dangerous.
And unless there's some convenient JKR interview, these will have to devolve to speculation based on rules of Apparition, so effectively a rules question.
 
12:55 AM
@b_jonas I did not read Fantastic Beasts nor did I see the movie, bit for what it's worth, maybe there's something there too?
 
1:06 AM
@Jenayah Goblins and house-elves are not discussed in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (except very tangentially).
 
 
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5:35 AM
Ok
 
6:34 AM
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Q: Suggested viewing order for complete DC Arrowverse to date?

Stephen FrancisI expect to complete the first season of Arrow today after purchasing it on BD and would appreciate some tips on where to go next. I am aware that a similar question has been asked and answered with regards to those seasons first broadcast in 2017 here: What is the correct watch order of Arrowve...

 
7:04 AM
@Alex Well, we might be able to get some stuff from Gnarlak.
 
 
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8:12 AM
@Jenayah Yes, that's a valid point. So an answer could potentially come from there too. I can't tell, I only saw that film once, whereas you can probably guess I've read the seven core books many times.
@Alex There is a goblin character who has a secondary character role in that film actually, and a house-elf at least appears and I think even has a line of dialog or two. See scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/145632/…
Nope, I think that elf doesn't get lines.
 
8:26 AM
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Q: Why are the CW superheroes' series called Arrowverse?

AnthonyWhy are the CW series called Arrowverse? Is this an official calling? If it is, is it due to the series "Arrow" being the first to debut on screen?

 
8:42 AM
Wasn't there a case of apparition in the Tales too?
The three cousins and the poor Knight or something like that?
 
Huh?
 
Tales of Beedle the Bard
 
I don't recall any cases of Apparation in there.
 
The first take was about 3 cousins and a poor knight IIRC
Ok, faulty memory then :)
 
The "huh" was about whatever story you were describing ;)
I could check my copy upstairs, but I don't know what story you're talking about :P
 
8:48 AM
The fountain of Fortune, Google says
 
Oh, that one.
 
Well Google also says they weren't cousins ahah
 
 
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10:34 AM
When you finally understand that the thing your boss keeps calling the "gooey" is actually the GUI
 
We all call it gooey here, just easier
 
Yeah but you're native speakers so you don't have to sit through the whole meeting without getting the pun ahah
 
Well we don't use it like that for a pun but aye
 
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Q: Why was this question reopened by a mod?

AegonThis question was closed as per the FWP. The question was about a scenario which has not occurred yet, but is extremely likely to occur in the upcoming season. One of our Mods, Rand al'Thor, took the position that it should not be closed, as per the clarification to the FWP: Per this clari...

 
Doesn't gooey means like, sticky awful thing?
 
10:47 AM
Yeah
 
Like slime
Well there's kind of a difference between our GUIs and slime, at least I hope so :^)
 
But I just say gooey cos if you said GUI as a word rather then the letters on their own you'd pronounce it gooey, or most likely would anyway
 
"gwee"
 
"gee" (strong g)
 
11:03 AM
I get a lot of gold Famous Question badges these days. Is that only because I'm slowly reaping the rewards of having written questions years before? Or has something changed on Sci Fi SE so that everyone gets more of those badges now, such as much more real visitors than previously, or counting unique visitors differently, just like how it's much easier to get bronze Announcer badges?
 
> Is that only because I'm slowly reaping the rewards of having written questions years before?
Seems like it
As far as I'm aware the views counter is the same: +1 view for each unique IP visit in 15 minutes
 
I've noticed that I'd been getting more of those at Literature.SE as well.
 
@TheLethalCarrot There's some anecdotal evidence on Meta that multiple people have seen a spike in the bronze Announcer badges at a certain time. There's a question on Meta SE, I'll try to find it, the reason why is not clear though there were some alleged explanations.
 
Aye, I haven't seen that so the meta would help
 
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Q: Announcer badge spike

WernerThere has been a recent spike in the number of Announcer badges being awarded on TeX.SE. A query on SEDE highlights this: The last four months saw the occasional awarding of more than one-a-day, with April 2017 shooting up to 3+ per day. Similar increases or spikes seem to have occurred on SO...

 
11:12 AM
Oh it's from a while ago
 
Yes, and I started getting these gold badges a while ago. I just got another one now, which is why I'm asking.
 
Aye I had a look through your Famous Questions and more are older posts
 
Also remember that there were two HP questions in HNQ for two days in a row
 
@TheLethalCarrot Well yes, but it's also possible that it's recently touched (active) questions that get more visits. We'd have to test that with a Data SE query and some statistics, but I'm lazy to do that.
 
So some of the viewers are bound to wander around
 
11:15 AM
Aye if your question is linked and especially related on a HNQ question you're bound to get some more views
Related meaning linked in a post or comments
 
Or "related"
On the right menu
 
Although you're right, because four of my gold Famous Question badges predate the date of the Famous Question jump given in that Meta post. Let me see when my Announcer badges start.
 
Aye, what I said ;P
 
Oh, I thought you meant like when they're just linked
I was referring to the "see also" thingy
 
Oh I got linked and related the wrong way round in my comment above
 
11:18 AM
^^
 
My Announcer badges start in 2017-04, earlier than what that Meta post says.
 
You're most likely to get a few more views if the post is linked
 
Oh, you'd think there were more Announcer badges around
 
1062 Announcer badges
19844 Popular Question badges
11121 Notable Question badges
3067 Famous Question Badges
 
Ahah and I got the popular/notable/famous all the wrong way
 
11:22 AM
Announcer being "Share a link to a question later visited by 25 unique IP addresses"
 
Thought it was 1k views / 25k /100k
 
Well Popular, Notable, Famous is 1k, 2.5k and 10k views respectively
 
@TheLethalCarrot do those rely on your ID included in the link?
@TheLethalCarrot yeah I just noticed ahah
 
@Jenayah Yes
I.e. from the share link
 
Thought it was something like that yeah
That works for different posts too?
 
11:25 AM
https://scifi.stackexchange.com/[q|a]/[postId]/[userId]
 
Like if you use the same link on post 1 and post2
Do they add some "incoming from post X" parameter?
 
No just look at IP as far as I'm aware
IP, post id and user id
 
Which is a great indicator that almost no first-posters look at the story-ID link you provide them then :')
 
Oh sure
Although I often forget to get it from the share link or link the Q instead of the A and whatnot haha
 
Easier, less characters used etc
So more space to add stuff afterwards
 
11:28 AM
Aye, though it's generally quicker/easier to just grab the main link from the address bar
 
True
 
11:44 AM
Aw, that bounty on this WW1 book ended :(
 
@TheLethalCarrot Yes, but that's just a hypothesis that's even more difficult to verify, unless you have access to the full Referee logs to check how many visits are from links, and I think even diamond moderators don't have access to that log, only community moderators or developers do.
 
D'you guys wanna know the story of how I got Dutch postcards 'cause of SFF.SE?
 
@Jenayah And there a re a few picky users who don't want to click on referee SE links, but will click to non-referee ones, and they claim they can often rewrite the link themselves but not when they browse from their mobile phone.
Or at least one IT guy told this to me.
So when he complains, I give him a non-referee link.
 
@b_jonas I'm not sure I understand that. Some people won't click on links if they contain an ID?
 
@Jenayah A user ID, at least in the case of the Stack Exchange site. Yes.
It might be just one person, and when he's on mobile phone.
 
11:49 AM
@b_jonas but why?
 
But I suspect there's actually more than one such person, the reswt just haven't chatted with me.
 
apart from some "I don't want to give you the Announcer badge" bashing ._.
 
@Jenayah Dunno, I didn't get into that.
@Jenayah I don't think it's tha.
 
I mean ok the preview is more intuitive with the "title in question link" one
Then again, it's kind of faster to load the page and see for yourself
 
@Jenayah Oh heh, you poor newbies with your five and six character long user ids.
 
11:52 AM
Hey, there are sites where I have a user ID with a single digit! Just not this one ;)
 
@b_jonas ?
 
(I think it's 33591 here?)
 
If I link the first Q on the homepage: scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/182007/…
roughly a hundred characters
50% characters less
 
@Jenayah No no. They don't want the title. They are fine with the short link without the userid, and want a link without userid even if I describe what the link points to.
 
I don't think most people won't click a link just because it has a user id in it
 
11:53 AM
With the characters limit on comments that can help
 
@Jenayah There is only one user with the announcer badge for that question: scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/help/badges/54/announcer
 
@Jenayah I have a four-digit userid 4918 on Sci Fi. Jenayah has a five digit userid 98028 on Sci Fi, and the current newbies on Sci Fi get a six digit userid, because the five digit decimal ones ran out.
 
@Edlothiad ahah
 
@Mithrandir Well yes, but I won't make fun of your five digit userid, because you have a two-digit userid on Lit.
 
hey wait
you gotta link to a question
I link to the answer, there, explained :^)
 
11:55 AM
I link to the question, personally.
 
Where I grabbed a three-digit one.
 
@Jenayah but /a/ links work as well
 
@Mithrandir oh
So I'm just being ignored :(
 
@Jenayah No, I think both work for the announcer badge and the famous badge.
 
Share a link to a question later visited by 25 unique IP addresses.
 
11:56 AM
@b_jonas I also have a user ID of 3 on the Channel/Team for SE mods. ;)
 
The text on the announcer badge suggests otherwise.
 
@Edlothiad The badge descriptions are short.
 
@b_jonas sorry to be a noob :-D
 
Why do you think there is even a share button under answers that gives referee links if it wouldn't count.
 
Famous question doesn't care about what link you use as far as I know
 
11:57 AM
That's only part of it. They could've easily added in 2 more words to say "or answers"
 
@TheLethalCarrot right, that's just views no matter where they came from
 
I could be wrong here, but the badge descriptions are always very brief and imprecise and don't give the full rule. Meta SE is full of questions of the form "What is the actual rule for the badge X?"
 
@b_jonas well, to point to the relevant answers such as dupes
 
@b_jonas Well to link directly to answers for one
 
@b_jonas true that
 
11:57 AM
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A: Do shared link to ANSWERS also count for Announcer, Booster, Publicist badges?

lockstepAccording to the "Recent feature changes" Q/A, since 2012-01-10 "[s]haring direct links to answers now also counts towards [the Announcer, Booster, and Publicist] badges".

 
@Mithrandir Thanks.
 
So it still counts under the question. For which only one user has the announcer badge.
 
@Mithrandir So it's official, I'm just being blanked :^)
 
How about for the Famous Question badge? Do links to answers count?
 
@Jenayah You're welcome to complain when you have referred what is likely more than 1000 people to the page and less than 250 have opened it :)
 
11:59 AM
@Edlothiad funny it's you actually, I'd have thought of Valorum/user14something
 
Again, that's just question page views, links don't come into it
 
@b_jonas Of course because they're opening the page
 
@Mithrandir That says that referee links to answers count into Announcer badges "forever", that is, before I joined the SE network.
 
@Jenayah caching?
 
@Jenayah User 14111?
 
12:01 PM
@Edlothiad Well that's what I was thinking about Announcer too, but Mith's answers says there was a bug and they didn't count before 2012-01.
 
@Edlothiad some people work ;D
 
@b_jonas No, announcer requires the user ID to know which user sent them.
 
Joke aside, funny thing though I get like 1 or 2 "First Posts" a day in the review queue
@Mithrandir mh?
 
@Edlothiad Yes, and the "share link" button under answers gives a referee link that points to answers.
 
Famous Question doesn't care where the user came from, just that it's an ip that hasn't opened the question in the past 15 minutes
@Jenayah Most people work. Unemployment rates are rarely above 50%.
 
12:03 PM
You can even donate an Announcer badge to another user, because SE didn't bother to cryptographically protect those links.
 
@b_jonas I don't understand what you're trying to say.
 
@Edlothiad actually my apologies for that, I thought you were referring to the fact that I did not review any first posts today
 
@Jenayah You need to get quicker ;)
 
Yes you can donate announcer counts. I just learn your user-id put it into my link and you'd get votes.
 
@TheLethalCarrot ... some people work ;D
 
12:04 PM
Some people can multitask :P
 
@Jenayah No I was referring to the fact that you thought it would be Valorum or User14111.
 
The userid part should be encrypted, but it's too late to change now, they won't break the existing link format and everyone knows how to create that, unless perhaps they put the restriction only for posts after the change.
 
Some people are obsessed.
 
@TheLethalCarrot some people are busy figuring out what the "gooey" is ;D
@Edlothiad well they're more versed into story-ID is what I thought
 
Easier then trying to figure out what an "ash-em-ee" is...
 
12:05 PM
'cause you review FP but that also count the non-story-ID ones
 
But since Announcer badges and similar don't give reputation, nobody cares if you can cheat on them like that.
 
@Edlothiad I think I know at least two users that fall under that category
 
And they're easier to game anyway by controlling botnets that visit the page.
 
@Jenayah They answer more, but I don't bother with the tag. I focus primarily on TL. However I review the most, and really started the whole "link to the guide" trend after Valorum suggested it to me.
 
Mind you, that's an orthogonal security problem, and that is why they don't give rep, but that's why nobody takes Announcer seriously.
 
12:06 PM
@b_jonas Script that refreshes every 15 minute gets you 4 counts an hour.
 
@Edlothiad sure sure, but just that I saw more "see that guide" coming from those two than yourself, but I can be mistaken :)
 
But why would you care, it's meaningless internet badges. Badge count has never given anyone any power, large rep on the other hand, carries weight.
 
@Edlothiad I mean a botnet, using ten thousand machines infected by malware.
 
@Jenayah Again, popularised by yours truly. They simply answer. I strive for quality content.
 
@Edlothiad Right, except for gold tag badges, which have a much stricter and harder to game criterion.
 
12:08 PM
@Edlothiad define "popularised" in that context please? :)
 
As in he started doing it and then more people did
@b_jonas Still don't carry any weight
 
@TheLethalCarrot What? A gold badge hammer is heavy.
 
@b_jonas 4 refreshes an hour, leave a computer running for 2500 hours, there's a gold badge.
 
(though I agree that I prefer the "hi there, see that guide, for instance XYZ, more chances of IDing successfully, cheers smiley" approach than the "look at the guide" one - I tend to do the former)
 
@b_jonas Right but that's a special case and not at all easy to game
 
12:10 PM
@TheLethalCarrot Yes, that's what I said.
 
@TheLethalCarrot Well you gamed it pretty good.
 
@b_jonas depends on which ones
@TheLethalCarrot oh alright
 
@Edlothiad Cos I'm awesome ;P
 
@b_jonas like, I have a gold badge but it's jack
 
@Jenayah What carrot said, wasn't my idea, but I did it the most, people copied the formatting, has spread.
 
12:10 PM
Could've had the same without posting anything ever
@Edlothiad ok ok :)
 
@Jenayah I used to go with the friendlier approach but it spread the wrong message with people thinking we were more or a discussion forum
 
@TheLethalCarrot Yeah I think you told me once
 
@Jenayah Ye, quite a few low rep users have lots of gold badges.
 
But a "welcome" at least helps :/
 
12:11 PM
Question askers usually have more than answerers, etc.
 
@Jenayah The 13 gold tag badges that actually have been awarded scifi.stackexchange.com/help/badges?tab=tags&filter=gold , except for the [short-stories] one that is a subset of [story-id] one anyway.
No gold tag badge will be awarded until there are a lot of questions and answers for that tag on the site.
 
@b_jonas Yeah missed tag when I read your comment but they aren't really gameable
 
@b_jonas oh sure but tag badges mean something
 
@Jenayah Aye, I do add the welcome bit but have dropped the hello/hi etc. parts
 
"Fanatic" badge is "gratz, have a cookie" badge
 
12:13 PM
@b_jonas Well 200 minimum
 
@b_jonas 200. That's the only requirement. One can get a gold tag badge in and given that it gets about 3 questions a year, it's effectively useless
@Jenayah Too bad they don't aware the one consecutive year badge.
 
(I like those ten golden pixels next to my name though :-D )
 
Carrot even has two tag badges which he can rarely use. The only really helpful ones are story-id, HP, SW and ST
 
I like these golden pixels the best
 
@TheLethalCarrot *cough* gamed *cough*
 
12:16 PM
@Edlothiad It's useless now that we have that long tolkien tag. It wasn't that useless before.
 
Or "provided high quality answers to old questions that needed attention" ;P
 
It was still effectively useless before. It only gets 3 questions a year, the amount of possible abuse is effectively null.
@TheLethalCarrot read: added a quote where the previous correct answer hadn't. 0.0
 
@Edlothiad But nobody has a gold tag badge in the Silmarillion, and if it did get only 3 questions a year, then nobody would be able to either.
 
@b_jonas It has >200 questions, sure someone could.
 
Yes, it's not 3 per year.
 
12:18 PM
@Edlothiad Read: Provided a high quality sourced answer where only speculation existed before
Game on my friend
 
It wasn't. It is now.
 
@Edlothiad You mean the badge is useless since the long tolkien tag? Yes, I admit that.
 
@TheLethalCarrot Given your most recent one is false most of the time, I think I win.
Game, set, match, championship.
 
But you'd get the gold tag badge for the long tolkien tag too next to it, and that's less useless.
 
12:19 PM
@b_jonas No that message says "It was getting more the 3 questions per year previously, but now rarely gets more than one every couple of months"
I'd completely forgotten about the universe badge, tbf.
 
@Edlothiad Ah ok.
 
Checked the new link and that edit really makes the thing more understandable :-D scifi.stackexchange.com/posts/192388/revisions
 
@Edlothiad Right. Only Jason Baker has it. And Edlothiad might be the next if he keeps it up scifi.stackexchange.com/tags/tolkiens-legendarium/topusers
 
Badges are highly biased tho
 
@b_jonas I could pull a TLC and add quotes to old answers missing them, but effort. Reviews are more fun
 
12:23 PM
@b_jonas You do realise you're talking to Ed right?
 
@Edlothiad Their relation is now like the gold story-id badge versus the gold short-story badge.
 
I'm stating the obvious and it has been said but you can very well be an expert on stuff that has 3 questions without even being part of the big tags like TL
 
@Jenayah You definitely can be.
 
Oh sure but gold tag badges aren't really an indicator of tag expert
 
@Jenayah (Which can be annoying.)
 
12:24 PM
@TheLethalCarrot No. Nor did I realize that he's actually much closer to the long tolkien gold tag badge than I am to the harry-potter gold tag badge.
 
I'm the world's leading expert on Ed's Fantasy Land but that tag has 0 questions.
 
(I mean they are to some extent but I wouldn't rely on it too much)
 
@Edlothiad sure but you don't get a badge for this "just because" no one knows about the stuff
This is basically what quantum physicists deal with everyday
 
@b_jonas You've replied to me about 10 times today and not realised that you were speaking to me? Interesting.
@Jenayah I don't understand what this means, I was simply agreeing with you.
 
@Jenayah Do they get gold particles instead?
 
12:27 PM
@Edlothiad I meant that the tag badges (especially the gold ones) are biased only because of the popularity of some tags
 
@TheLethalCarrot gph.is/1zcio9A
@Jenayah Yes I was agreeing
Unless you were talking about Ed's Fantasy Land
 
@Edlothiad Then I don't unstertand what you did not understand :^)
 
@Jenayah True but gold tag badge is more for "question expert" in that they're more likely to recognise a dupe and are trusted in doing so, not much point in that power if there are only 3 questions
 
@Jenayah Never mind, lol
 
@Edlothiad erf
@TheLethalCarrot true dat
 
12:29 PM
 
daily floof ^
 
@Edlothiad Sorry. There were multiple threads of complicated conversation going and I'm also talking with my coworkers IRL. And the SE chat interface really sucks.
I should improve it a bit with the Stylish plugin, but I can't get that to work at home, only at work.
 
The SFF one is horrible, just need to change the CSS to be the SO one. Can't get in trouble for searching for programming questions...
 
@b_jonas what he said, we're on three discussions at once :)
 
@Edlothiad The SFF one is even worse because of that backgound. I can fix that too, but even still it will be bad.
The usernames are sometimes truncated on the bottom, and so are the chat room names in the lobby.
Specifically this happens when it's next to a single-line chat with the tiny avatar.
 
12:34 PM
@Edlothiad wait what? This one's easy on the eyes, that's good
(then again I have sensible eyes :p )
 
And long usernames are even worse, but SSdigits changed his to something slightly shorter I think.
 
@Jenayah sensitive?
@b_jonas He changes it monthly, currently The Wasp
 
@Edlothiad ahah lost in translation spotted I guess
 
@Jenayah The problem is that the chat lines have a partly transparent background, and there's a background image behind the whole chat part except the right sidebar. I don't like seeing text on non-uniform colored background. This is worse on Sci Fi chat than the other SE chats I've seen because the packground image is a particularly distracting one with too high local contrast.
But on machines where the Stylish Firefox plugin works, that is, currently at work but this changes like yearly, I can fix this when I really want.
@Edlothiad I hadn't heard that name yet.
 
12:43 PM
@b_jonas is it that there's no transparency applied, or just that the image is particularly dark at that spot?
 
Or otherwise known as SS-3.14159265...
 
I don't see the background as a problem it's mostly black and the odd grey star doesn't really provide much of an issue, at least on the machines I've used
 
@Jenayah No, it's that the image has high contrast edges, so it's particularly distracting that the background behind the text is not of a uniform color.
 
@b_jonas ok, I see
 
I mean there is the bit in the top right but that's far enough away from the recent messages on my res (1280x1084) that it isn't a problem
 
1:33 PM
@b_jonas I was referring to the book.
 
@Alex as I said didn't read the book, but funny, given how wizards look down on elves and goblins you'd expect them to list the species in a Fantastic Beasts book...
 
@Jenayah The book has a preface which discusses how things are classified as beasts or beings. (That's actually the part where goblins are tangentially mentioned.)
 
@Alex oh, alright
Man you'd think in like 5 years since the publication I'd have time to read that
thanks for the info :)
 
I've got a copy of the old Fantastic Beasts. It's still in the plastic wrap.
 
@Jenayah 5 years? I think it's closer to 20 years. My copy says it was published in 2001.
 
1:44 PM
@Mithrandir well, sell it in 2-3 decades
@Alex Holy molly
 
@Jenayah The problem? I want to read it :(
 
@Mithrandir unwrap it then
 
...then it won't be sellable
essentially, i can't have my cake and eat it too
 
@Alex well blimey then
indeed
couldn't have read it in 2001 though
@Mithrandir sure you can that's what economics are all about
 
@Mithrandir You can read it online here in various formats without ever having to open your copy.
 
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