Polyglot Development - 2018-07-02

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Zacharý

00:45

I just screwed us over with Befunge-93's size restriction: is there an interpreter that doesn't have that?

7 hours later…

NieDzejkob

07:56

I'll check

NieDzejkob

08:31

It seems like you can use FBBI if you use R instead of ; to distinguish between -93 and -98: >#;"Befunge-98"#;R5-#@,,,,,,,,,,@#

Full example (except you need to fix Somme):

https://tio.run/##fVXrctpGFP5tvUL@HAuPJWGkNcZJGmOobSCpUwieQlwnJiG6rNAmklYjrWxoLo/QB@jj9UXcsxJg4nSiGcHZc/n23OXYWXB359oC2uByjyqC524AScpikSlKBZgPC56D7Xlgp7M8osivQWR/opDlKQXBIeIe8xcgGLeSBWQcRIB4IqALNKHAYjfMPeohIZkQsviTQt2AgxmDulNX8erSVlH6p69evD590Zuev@r2rlp15ezNuDdqqTv6rQumeyxdNFTFz2MXTWII7XiW2zOqG5@VrQJTrcDO9ygW7NRrsFMggbMQNFOVreHr8cXrsQR2MAMIjZ4cqAi91bu66HXGva6UlYjo4peU3kghZuMaGaW1CtstPKwMVHjXlAHGytbSld48oa7AyNc6NZhxASt7qThnAurKls@UrQfB4/36g1D26ob0okQ3YfJhiTT5IJNbpLK9qt1XWb1AiCQ7ImTGRJA7lssjMk4X52IYYxUoEemCCb6iKSWRnQmaktvUThKaZoiwyjComDihglpcXtDKv…

(I added a lot of 12341234 in the first line to demonstrate

)

7 hours later…

NieDzejkob

15:58

(make sure you get the new test harness when posting an answer, I added an x86 emulator)

2 hours later…

Zacharý

18:00

@NieDzejkob I just need to find a language to squeeze in there now, know any more 2-D languages that should be easy to fit in there?

NieDzejkob

use charcoal's conditional to add a semicolon at the very end, then use that to add unefunge?

Zacharý

18:20

I'm trying to use Gol><> this time.

Zacharý

18:43

There: finished with #11, Gol><>

Zacharý

18:54

@NieDzejkob, what does "vo is a jbe" even mean?

NieDzejkob

the ASCII characters vo encode the jbe x86 instruction

Zacharý

Ah.

stasoid's still going on the behemoth, so he may have saw the question...

NieDzejkob

the victory condition on that question has triggered already, right?

Zacharý

Yeah, hence why he's going nuts with adding more and more and more languages.

NieDzejkob

@Zacharý posted next answer ;)

Zacharý

19:09

Well, we should enjoy it while we can :-), because there is NO way we can compete with those two

This is just going to be a bunch of fungeoids, isn't it...

NieDzejkob

19:45

if you want language suggestions, you should be able to easily add Emoji

Zacharý

20:14

13 is done

Zacharý

20:44

I see why stasoid and Chance did this: I quite enjoy it! (At the very least, while it's not too insane)

@NieDzejkob: how far do you think this will go before those two join?

NieDzejkob

21:01

stasoid and Chance? no idea

Zacharý

When we're stuck: we can just get a mod to revive the polyglot development room...

NieDzejkob

or rename this one

I'm almost done with the next answer, but I'm going to integrate the Somme script into TIO first.

Zacharý

Okay, Brainfuck and Brainflak are ready as well: the byte count is high enough.

Which language is it?

NieDzejkob

Befunge-96

Zacharý

._.

I'm having flashbacks to "Hello World in multiple languages"

Befunge-96 has no size restriction, right?

@NieDzejkob And eh, we'll probably have this moved to Polyglot development when we get stuck

NieDzejkob

21:12

@Zacharý correct

Zacharý

What fingerprint did you use to distinguish 96 from 97?

NieDzejkob

@Zacharý Read the explanation. I've finished

Zacharý

Now, to do brainfuck.

NieDzejkob

have fun

Zacharý

21:30

The bf code is already done, I just have to squeeze it in there.

NieDzejkob

I recommend the end of the comment on the first line

Zacharý

I know, that's where I am thinking as well

Done. I had to add a few bits to make the []s balanced as well as starting on a 0.

@NieDzejkob, and this is also a fast way to get rep

Zacharý

21:57

So, which one are you shooting for now? Trefunge?

NieDzejkob

not sure yet

Zacharý

I looked at both our rep charts: there's a spike when we started answering this challenge :-)

C++ and BrainFlak are out of the question: C++ doesn't like void main(), and the DOS code has an unbalanced paren that I don't see a way to fix.

NieDzejkob

right now I'm removing all @s from DOS, if you need some help with modifications to that part, let me know

The ) before X5?

Zacharý

Yeah, that's the one I see no way to remove without modifying the DOS code.

@NieDzejkob Why do you need to do that?

NieDzejkob

actually, I don't

Zacharý

22:09

Any } ) ] and > left unbalanced will kill brainflak, I can deal with {([< by closing them later

So: you doing yet another funge, ~~JamesHolderness~~ NieDzejkob?

NieDzejkob

next answer won't have the ) in DOS code

Zacharý

Is it Trefunge?

NieDzejkob

it was going to be Unefunge-97 but MTFI barks at the newlines instead of ignoring them like PyFunge

NieDzejkob

22:30

@Zacharý you've guessed right. It is Trefunge. New answer

Zacharý

23:07

Now to try BrainFlak

@NieDzejkob What was the separator for Trefunge? Was it horizontal tab?

NieDzejkob

form feed. But I didn't need any.

Zacharý

Nice trick there, maybe we can cram in the other dimensions as well then?

NieDzejkob

@Zacharý that's the plan

Zacharý

23:29

@NieDzejkob Um ... you have a leading \x00 outputted for all funges except unefunge

@NieDzejkob, I know how to fix it: move that interfering , to the end of the line, then change the b of the Somme code to an n

NieDzejkob

that's only for the latest answer, right?

any ideas on how to make the test harness catch that?

Zacharý

No clue.

@NieDzejkob yeah, because of a , in the way of the initial downard path

It's simple enough to fix the polyglot: but I have no clue how to fix the test harness.

in The Nineteenth Byte, 56 secs ago, by Pavel

@Zacharý It's a bit weird but basically yes.

in The Nineteenth Byte, 23 secs ago, by Pavel

No. Bash strings can never contain null bytes, since program arguments can't contain null bytes.

NieDzejkob

23:47

I have an idea

Zacharý

What is it?

Your answer should be fixed, regardless of if we can get the test harness to work

NieDzejkob

I know that

Zacharý

Trailing newline? If that was disallowed, we'd have to start at the beginning!

NieDzejkob

not really

I've noticed that Vim outputs one

and only Vim, BTW

Zacharý

That's a WHILE back

#6

NieDzejkob

23:52

I'm just making sure

he's probably gonna say yes

anyway, I've fixed both the answer and the test harness

Zacharý

How did you fix the test harness?

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