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2:00 PM
We can't demonstrate them both in a single game
(of course Deusovi is right)
 
(Deus is always right)
 
so the attackers win, and the game ends, when 1. someone makes a clue whose answer is the defender's word or something "close enough" to it, and 2. someone contacts it, and 3. the defender passes, and 4. the answer is correct.
BUT
it's important to note that when the defender guesses a word, they're implicitly saying not just "I think this is the answer to your clue" but also "this is not my word". So when the defender thinks an attacker's clue IS pointing at the word they're defending, they will usually pass immediately.
(Perhaps after guessing some other possibilities just in case.)
This situation can arise either (1) once the defender has given up so many letters that hardly any possibilities remain, or (2) because an attacker gets lucky.
 
Ooooh, Contact! Count me in.
 
It also ends if the defender knows the attacker has their word, and just announces that "Yes, <that> is my word". If instead it's only very likely, but there are other words they might conceivably have in mind, the immediate-pass is the usual mechanic.
 
@Fargle At the moment we're teaching more than genuinely playing.
 
2:03 PM
Ah. Well, I might get some stuff wrong, so count me in for any games that pick up in the next couple of hours.
 
Alright, great. I think I got it now. Thanks! *heads to find charger*
 
ok. Should we continue the game from here, or start a new one, or go and do something else?
 
I think we can continue
 
sure go for it
 
I actually want to do something else for ~10 minutes, but it looks like we have three other attackers so the game should survive fine in my absence.
 
2:05 PM
ok
42: never-ending story (6)
 
There are two other ways for the game to end.

1. The attacker is forced to give up another letter, but cannot, because that's the end of the word. This happens very infrequently (because if the current letters make a word, it is often very quickly clued, usually as "That" or something similar).
2. The attackers do not know the word the defender has in mind. At this point, everyone sits around awkwardly for a few minuets until it's clear that nobody knows the word, and then the defender languishes in shame for the next three hours.
 
5: What a logger might say when felling a rubber tree
 
lol.
5: It's not LIMBER
 
6. One system
 
5: you got it
 
Sid
2:09 PM
12. Rubio's favourite
 
6: It's not LIMBIC perhaps
PASS 12
 
correct
contact 12 - LIME
 
12: LIME is my word.
 
I'm glad you seemed to like 5. I know it was a giveaway but I felt very clever
 
Sid
Sid defending: X
 
2:12 PM
1: Mendeleevian aristocrat
 
9. NSA program
 
3: What a good cryptic should be [citation needed]
 
contact 3
 
Sid
and pin the defense?
 
already did
 
Sid
2:14 PM
pass 3
 
3: XIMENIAN
 
indeed
 
Sid
how?
 
it's a word meaning "adhering to strict cryptic standards"
 
Ah nice
 
2:14 PM
referring to Ximenes, the pen name of one of the people who codified those standards
 
hey sp
 
Sid
Sid defending: XA
 
5. Palindromic drug
 
not to be that guy but it's actually XIMENEAN ;)
 
9 was XKeyscore
 
2:16 PM
contact 5
 
@Rubio I'm deeply ashamed.
 
Sid
@Fargle is 1 alive?
 
2: Don't chew it
 
I think contact 5 (but I don't think we have it over here)
 
contact 5
 
2:17 PM
42: city of wealth
 
contact 42
 
Sid
pass 5
 
5 is XANAX
 
XANAX?
 
indeed it is
 
2:17 PM
yay
 
Whoops sorry
@Sid 1 died, was XENON
 
Sid
Sid defending: XAN
 
42 lives
 
why aristocrat?
 
contact 2
 
2:18 PM
contact 42
 
@Rubio Noble gas
 
yeah, I don't get the "aristocrat" part
 
2 lives
 
ohhh
 
Oh. lol
clever. I like
 
2:18 PM
:)
 
huh, who was that guy with peas and genes?
 
mendel
not mendeleev
 
oh. Thanks.
 
Sid
I don't think I will get 42. So, PASS 42
 
42 is XANADU
 
2:20 PM
42: XANADU?
 
Oh is that what that means
 
42 ✔️
 
Sid
Is that some legend?
Or history?
 
"Yes"
 
Sid
Sid defending: XANT
 
2:21 PM
2 lives . . . .
 
7. Yellow
 
43 gambit trope
 
in case it got glossed, contact 2
 
Sid
PASS 7
 
@JanDvorak doesn't that have an extra letter in it?
43 I mean
 
2:22 PM
Was wondering the same
 
7 would be xanthic
 
yeah, 43 definitely has an extra letter
yup
 
does it?
 
Sid
ding ding ding..
 
@JanDvorak xanatos, no?
 
Sid
2:22 PM
That's the word..
 
xanatos yeah
 
May I look it up?
 
2 is XANTHAN I assume, @Rubio?
 
the game's over
 
2: ✔
 
2:23 PM
:D
 
@Deusovi defending
 
XANTHAN GUM technically. but yeah
 
Apparently it does, sorry.
 
Sid
And that has to be one of the worst defenses in Contact history
 
I mean, we've had at least two games where the first clue was the word
 
2:24 PM
X converges quickly.
 
speaking of misspellings, surely it's XIMENEAN rather than XIMENIAN
 
yes, Rubio pointed that out to me
 
ah, OK, didn't read over the game with much care
sorry for the duplication then
 
Deusovi defending V
 
Deus feels almost as bad as I do for letting another indirect anagram slip in
 
2:26 PM
6: In this veritas
 
contact 6 @Fargle
 
contact 6
 
1. Blake's thief
(I hope I'm remembering that correctly)
 
6: VERACIOUSLY?
or just VERILY?
 
6: No to both.
 
2:27 PM
2: Something squarely momentous
 
not a clue. pass 6
 
6 VINO
 
6: IN VINO VERITAS indeed.
 
I guess the same
 
2:27 PM
never heard that
 
contact 2 @Rubio if it survives
 
hey I got a latin clue! woot
 
In wine, truth.
 
Deusovi defending V E
 
looks like 2 survives
 
2:27 PM
2 lives
 
2: VELOCITY?
 
my 1 doesn't; was VILA, a character from the old TV series Blake's Seven. I bet you all thought I meant William Blake :-).
 
@GarethMcCaughan We didn't have a clue who you meant.
 
oh well
 
4. Profoundly troubling/annoying
 
2:28 PM
(I say you very precisely had a clue)
 
VEXING
 
contact 4
er nvm
 
Sid
10. Directional line (Not exactly)
 
4: yessir
 
VECTOR
 
Sid
2:28 PM
10. correct
12. _____ appendix
 
1: Large, according to Starbuck
 
contact 12 @Sid
 
contact 12
 
contact 1 @Rubio
 
1: VENTI
 
2:29 PM
1: ✔
 
12: VESTIGIAL?
 
@Rubio you owe Deusovi an answer on 2
 
Sid
12. Hmm... No.
 
14. v.
 
contact 14 @Sp3000
 
2:30 PM
14: VELOCITY?
 
oh 2 is VELOCITY ✔ sorry
missed that
 
14. Not velocity
 
contact 14
 
VERSUS
(for 14)
 
VERSUS is correct
 
2:31 PM
14': v.
 
Sid
13. Personal ___
 
hmm, I can think of too many kinda plausible things for 14'
 
contact 13
 
Contact 14'
(Yeah I realised after the fact there's a couple of options)
 
pass 14'
 
2:31 PM
42: in vino
 
42: VERITAS
 
lol
 
@JanDvorak you did see the very first clue, right?
 
42 ✔️
 
14' VERY?
 
2:31 PM
>_>
 
contact 13
 
14: verb :(
 
@GarethMcCaughan wasn't paying attention, sorry
 
Yeah this ain't gonna work :P nvm
 
(versus, verb, velocity, volume, very, ...)
 
2:32 PM
I should have italicized. oh well.
 
(I think the first one was just fine because VERSUS is the most obvious. After that, though, not so clear.)
1. In the heart or in the head
2. Roman emperor
 
pass 1
 
3: Adder's concern
 
3: VENOM
 
anyone want to contact 1?
 
2:33 PM
yes, VEMON ✔
 
or do I need to give a "The word consisting of letters ..." clue?
 
shush
 
contact 1
 
go on @as4s4hetic
 
venice?
 
2:34 PM
er, no
 
...???
 
OK, since it seems this is D's word, let's have an easier clue for the same word
1. Chamber of the heart
 
Sid
contact 1
 
pass 1
 
contact 1
 
Sid
2:34 PM
1. VENTRICLES
 
Oh I thought you were talking about a line from merchant of venice
 
yes (I was thinking the singular)
 
yes, my word was VENTRICLE
 
@as4s4hetic The Shakespeare reference was meant to be the (probably not very effective) distraction, not the answer :-).
 
Sid
who says those lines?
 
2:35 PM
I don't actually remember, but now the game is over we can look it up. Give me a second.
 
I love that song I was singing it this morning :P
 
looks like it's an unspecified "Singer".
When I go into a bakery I always feel the urge to ask them "O tell me, where is fancy bread?".
 
hah
You'd get blank stares, I'm sure
 
Sid
It's that moment when Bassannio is choosing the casket?
 
but alas, even here in Cambridge the bakers are mostly not so well read
 
2:37 PM
@Sid yeah!!
 
Blank stares for not blank verse. Or something.
 
Sid
Yeah, I read Merchant of Venice a couple of years ago.
13 wa VENDETTA. and 12 was VERMIFORM
 
I thought it was VERTIFORM
 
so anyway I suppose I should be defending now
no, vermiform
 
We're studying MoV at school >_<
 
2:38 PM
worm-shaped
 
Silly me
 
everyone (or enough of everyone) up for another game?
 
Sid
Shylock's speech struck me at that time and to most of the class as one of the best speeches we have ever read.
 
Shakespeare has quite a lot of best-speeches-you've-ever-read.
 
Sid
I am out. I have to go to a wedding party and eat. :P
 
2:38 PM
That sounds like more fun than Contact. Enjoy!
 
I'll rejoin in a bit, if we keep going
 
hmm, no Sid, no Rubio for now; who is in?
 
I'm in.
 
o/
 
σ_σ
 
2:40 PM
three attackers? probably enough then
Gareth defending: O
 
5. Rubio figured this word out in the shower
 
Contact 5 but not sure if Gareth remembers
 
obviously Gareth doesn't remember
I suppose I could pull up the entire Contact transcript and comb through it looking for the word "showre"
"shower"
but perhaps that would be cheating
Pass 5.
 
OVOID ("000-ish")
 
Yup.
 
2:43 PM
oh
 
But I feel it might be unfair
 
not even a Contact one
well, I was around for that clue
though I can't say I have any particular recollection of Rubio mentioning that he solved it in the shower
but if Sp3000 can remember it, there's no particular reason why I should get a pass, as it were
Gareth defending: O P
 
I actually knew that, but for Sp to remember it o_O
 
11. Like something that may be nerfed
 
memory is <That>
 
2:44 PM
@Deusovi 11 is probably just OP, short for "overpowered"
 
indeed it is
 
42: voluntary
 
pass 42
 
wow
OPTIONAL
 
yup
gg thanks
:-)
 
2:46 PM
42 is optional
 
in case I haven't been explicit enough, OPTIONAL was my word
 
Jan Dvorak defending M
 
reading back on the transcript, the wedding parties I have been to figure among some of the worst days of my life
no games, so boring
 
1. Cretan
 
I'm playing from mobile, so apologies for my upcoming slowness
1 Maltese
 
2:48 PM
1 is not MALTESE
2. Barlennan
3. Muse (person)
4. Muse (not person)
(and now I'll stop and let other people make clues for a bit)
 
3 medusa?
 
3 is not MEDUSA.
 
contact 3,4, apologies if my memory fails me
 
5. Beast
6. Labyrinth
 
contact 5 @Sp3000 maybe
 
2:50 PM
7. 5. in a 6.
 
contact 5, 6
 
4 probably isn't motivation
 
contact 5
 
contact 7 @Sp3000
contact 6 @Sp3000
 
contact 6
 
2:51 PM
5 minotaur
 
(someone star mine?)
 
5. is not MINOTAUR
 
uncontact 5
 
6 minoa/minos
 
still contact 5
 
2:51 PM
5 monster
 
contact 5,6,7
 
6. Is neither of those
5 is indeed MONSTER
 
contact 7
 
6 maze
 
6 is indeed MAZE
 
Sid
2:52 PM
@ffao I am still semi-here on mobile. So, let me tell you what happens here. You get to greet some elders. They would be like, "Oh, <insert my real name>, how big have you grown? I saw you last when you were "this" small and were running around your house..blah blah blah". And you have to smile and nod at everyone irrespective of whether you really know them or not
 
7 Minotaur, perhaps?
 
7 is indeed MINOTAUR
 
my 1 is unstarred but still alive, btw
5. Excuse for slowness
 
5 mobile 😛
 
seems similar to my experience. except because I'm so shy after I suffer through that then they get to gossip in a very loud voice about how impolite I am and I have to pretend not to hear it
 
2:54 PM
yeah, 5 was mobile
I was hoping that just barely enough time had elapsed for that to have been forgotten. I misjudged :-).
 
:-)
 
I'm guessing the defender is perennially annoyed by that, so they won't forget so easily
 
Don't worry , you didn't annoy me
1 was MINOS from Crete by any chance?
 
7. Bullfighter
 
1 MINOS was king of Crete. 1 was actually MINOAN, but I'll let you have it.
contact 7 @Sp3000
 
2:59 PM
7 matador.
 
Yup
1'. Goldfinger?
 
contact 1'
 

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