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16:05
What time is :00pm EDT in Central?
Anonymous
16:58
There's no chat event for the next show; I can't opt to be reminded of it. D:
Sadly it won't let me schedule an event for :00
@RebeccaChernoff Is the podcast at 4pm?
17:42
room topic changed to SE Podcast Live Chat: livestream.com/stackexchange / Next Episode: Tuesday 9/20 @ 4:00pm EDT w/ guest John Sheehan (no tags)
@MichaelMrozek yes.
Didn't someone set up a recurring event awhile ago?
I've been doing them manually since they're not always at the same time
Are they going to stay at 4pm for a while?
4pm is the standard time.
...I'll choose to pretend you said "yes"
17:49
Michael Mrozek has added an event to this room's schedule.
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19:42
Is the sound quality going to be any better this week?
the hold music seems pretty good
joel isn't doing the podcast at a conference, so let's go with yes. (:
in terms of audio quality, so it looks like live stream is behaving itself
It wasn't so much that Joel was at a conference but the constant drop outs from livestream
Oh. I watched the recording later and didn't notice that.
19:50
Hrm. I'm going to have to miss the podcast due to lunch. That's 3 weeks in a row I'll be missing.
@GraceNote eat lunch earlier?
evenin' all
@AarthiDevanathanΨ I usually do
Like, 4 hours earlier, in fact
@GraceNote just not on tuesdays 'cause of CommCall?
Call is on Mondays normally
19:51
So i'm on the border of swtiching to ustream
because of all the livestream issues we've had
but ustream sucks, too. =/
however, livestream lets you stream multiple bitrates and ustream doesn't
and thats a pretty big deal
For that matter, no one seems to call during lunch.
@AlexMiller I just saw today that Google+ is going to add a 'broadcast' feature to hangouts
don't know if that would work for your purposes
Flash crashed twice after opening that page. Finally switched to a different computer, and Firefox w/ FlashBlock installed, and it's working.
19:54
@GraceNote so....food at Real Lunch time?
is it Snacktimes?
I'm eating a late lunch because I missed normal lunch today.
I'm eating apple pie instead of lunch. Because I'm surrounded by apple pie.,
@KyleCronin iirc not everyone can be a broadcaster at first though?
@Shog9 i want to go to there
@GraceNote pats
19:56
@KyleCronin hmmm, ill have to play with that
Hey @JohnSheehan!
HEY! YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE A GENERAL!
hello
i am not the general
disappointed
'sup all
19:58
You should call yourself the jEneral of jQuery or something. Get your google rank up.
Yay podcast!
Hello everyone
The question on everyone's mind @JohnSheehan ... can Twilio get any awesomer?
yes! great stuff coming at twilio conference this week
stay tuned
you mean better than twilio client? swoon
20:01
Will you be announcing another mayoral election campaign?
As soon as @codinghorror wakes up we'll be podcasting livestream.com/stackexchange
unrelated
Oh, great, so 8 PM Pacific?
"bored" meetings
I'm just glad I didn't have any meetings today. well, roundup doesn't really count.
20:06
A podcast about board meetings? Almost as exciting as BEING at the board meeting!
What about a podcast about board meetings to discuss podcasts?
@AlexMiller like what happened in Indiana a month ago.
@AarthiDevanathanΨ eh, that was just a freak occurence
20:09
maybe we need an AVP podcast
@AlexMiller true, the windstorm was kind of epically unexpected. still, there were also structural problems with that stage, iirc
L...Live podcast chat? :O
Woo, someone's iPhone is charging!
It "doesn't matter"? Sure it doesn't
hey he's an evangelist, too. WE HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON
Anonymous
20:12
user30
ninja'd.
@AarthiDevanathan - he's talking about you! and mentioned the pencils
Job Title Overflow
yes! yes he did!
should I walk past the camera with robes and pencils?
@AarthiDevanathan yes.
20:13
@AarthiDevanathanΨ Dare you!
My trello + twillio client will be called twello. or maybe twewo
Success!
was it visible?
Yay!
20:14
I am liking the mobile interface.
lol, nice
awesome
picture picture?
Pays attention now
anyone? anyone?
Twello is a village in the Dutch province of Gelderland. It is located in the municipality of Voorst, about southwest of Deventer. Twello is a village between the cities Deventer and Apeldoorn. It has several primary schools, among them: De Hietweide, a public school, which means it has no religion tied to it and Sint Martinus, a catholic primary school, located in front of the Sint Martinuskerk (see picture). The village also has two high schools for vmbo and the first 3 grades of havo. Twello was a separate municipality until 1818, when it was merged with Voorst. Image:Twello, Have...
20:15
Sorry - missed it
yes, iMessage
QUESTION: can we create a "Belongs on John Sheehan" close reason for all the "HOW TO SMS?" questions?
"imessage"
okay pencils.
hmmm
not necessary :)
20:15
you can send text messages to people that have Apple accounts on their iOS 5 devices for free
through data
if you're curious:
because sms sucks!
Trollface
@MarcoCeppi :(
20:16
SMS pricing is not based on how much it costs the carriers, but how much they can get people to pay
BUT IF SMS GOES AWAY, HOW WILL I GET FREE RING TONES AND PIRATE NAMES FOR ONLY $9.99/mo???
@AarthiDevanathanΨ Heh, that's awesome.
lol yes Jarrod has that on his door window thing
I'm still betting on faxes
20:18
Emotional bandwidth. I like that.
oky i'm going to walk back with the robes. in case anyone missed them.
Unlimited emoticons in a fax. Unlimited!
Almost far enough. :-)
@MarcoCeppi danke
20:20
hi Joel!
sweet i'm famous again.
I'm slightly disturbed now.
It's time for a love song request
Hey it's @jin
Jin
Jin
20:21
hello
user30
spaceship lazers? :D
unless you drive to MTV at 2am, like I did
hey, isn't JohnSheehan part of this podcast? i feel like he's going to be here for an hour and talk for 2 mins laughs
Needs more questions about jokes for the linguist like they do on ELU
And food is done. Guess I'll open this up and see how this is goin'
@random but @Jeff hates joke questions.
20:23
19
Q: Explain this pickup line: "If Bangkok invaded Djibouti, would Greece help?"

User42I was at an Model UN conference and often notes like the following get passed. As I'm not a native speaker, I assume that this has to do with some pronunciational issue. Can you please explain what's so funny about this sentence? (Djibouti seemed to be often used in such context.) If Bangkok ...

@GraceNote om nom nom. was lunch delish?
Did Joel already talk about Trello?
@random <3
@AarthiDevanathanΨ it's ok :)
20:24
@jeff is right; it's really crazy from the outside. things like, my wife is totally submissive to me. that's a special kind of from-the-outside crazy.
Jin
Jin
hmm Judaism.se design..
it's contradiction in terms to describe Christianity as "fact based"
@JohnSheehan i mean, as long as you don't mind. jeff and joel will blather on if left unchecked ;)
@random yeah, gee...this is exactly the type of question we strive for.
20:25
Huh, I never knew that payos (why do you have an apostrophe there?!) were a Jewish thing
PUNYON
@GraceNote Because I don't really hang out on EUL and judaism.se as much as I need to
either payot or payos, never payots
Ah, payos. Got it
Dyargh, my connection isn't really good enough to watch this.
20:27
What is the stackoverflow rep to bitcoin conversion today?
@MarcoCeppi Where did you pick up using apostrophes to indicate plural in the first place?
Ask John about his thoughts about BUILD / the tablets he's giving away / etc.?
ummm....
@GraceNote ;__; I always skipped English class to write code in the library. Apostrophes are for single character and pure string encapsulation.
@MarcoCeppi Which has nothing to do with plurality wargh
20:29
i want to talk about API 2.0 too
Help!!! I can't log into my Facebook account!!!
@JohnSheehan when one of them takes a breath, change the subject ;)
Can't wait for Freelancers to come out of private beta
what are the criteria for coming out of private beta?
@KyleCronin one week and enough questions.
20:31
@AarthiDevanathanΨ what is "enough"?
@KyleCronin idk, ask @GraceNote
@OffBySome have you tried turning it off and on again?
I don't actually recognize who is who in this Podcast.
@KyleCronin To put it in perspective, "25" is too little.
@GraceNote so more than 25 questions and a site goes into public beta?
20:32
Mental note: The financial records are under Joel's (LOOK I DID IT RIGHT! :D) desk in his office.
@KyleCronin No
One should not get cookies for correct grammar
@MarcoCeppi now to determine which office is his.
Hard number limits are a bad idea. We aren't just going "Oh, you have X questions, you're good to go!"
Well it IS a developer preview...
if you don't like something or it isn't clear, you should submit that as feedback so they can improve it
20:33
Which is why you're giving it away...
Hmm - I've gotten used to it really quickly, but maybe because I'm not expecting it to be like an iPad?
it was shiny, which i like. #Easy
@GraceNote yeah, rock-paper-scissors like we really do is so much better! (:
whistles Unity+Ubuntu
20:34
Which one is talking right now?
Hot corners?
@JoelSpolsky the gestures can be done with keyboard shortcuts
I got a new Magic Trackpad yesterday and I loved it... There are all kinds of neat gestures to do system stuff. Then I tried to drag a folder across the screen into another Finder window, ran out of space on the trackpad, and had to drop the folder on a Chrome window.
@JoelSpolsky look to your left - we all use mice with scroll wheels.
@AbbyΨ except me, who uses her trackpad religiously
20:36
oh my, 4 mac minis stacked up just for skype.
would love to hear more from sheehan
Win8 on laptop w/ touch screen is working really well for me - nice to have a full keyboard for desktop apps, then flip to tablet for casual games while installing or downloading something time consuming
Posted by Alex Miller on August 17th, 2011

We’ve gotten quite a few questions from people about how we go about recording and producing the Stack Exchange podcast from people interested in everything from the hardware to the software and even the process.  Given the recent revamp of the entire setup (which has been happening during our recent break from live shows), I figured this was the perfect time to do it.

Our setup is massively more complex than what is normally needed for a podcast (since its normally 2 people sitting in a room talking into mics).  We generally have 2-3 people live in studio (Joel, Alex and maybe 1 guest),  …

@pc1oad1etter The amount of hardware that goes into the podcast is downright alarming
@AlexMiller you're wrong, if you go into "Mouse" there is an option "Move content in the direction of finger movement when scrolling or navigating"
20:37
...Can someone tell me who is who? :P
user30
@Brant Can't you hold down with one finger and drag with the other?
@GnomeSlice Jeff has a lighter voice than Joel
plaid shirt on the right is @JoelSpolsky
Jeff is talking right now
20:37
Dark sweater on the left is @AlexMiller
@ThomasMcDonald Can you? I didn't try that.
Not pictured, but talking now is @JeffAtwood
In ascending order of pitch: Joel, Jeff, John.
and then the last voice is @JohnSheehan, speaking RIGHT NOW
20:38
@KyleCronin that is the most obtuse option name ever
You have to write code Joel, methinks
Ugh, I have to build something
user30
@Brant You can with laptop trackpads. If you keep it 'held down' with one finger you can move your other back across the trackpad to give you some more space to drag with
@KyleCronin So you can use different scroll directions if you had a touchpad and a mouse connected at the same time?
@Brant unfortunately it controls the same setting, so no
20:39
@KyleCronin Boo, hate that.
but the setting is available in both the Mouse and Trackpad preferences
Wait I thought the Metro App interface was going to be Javascript and HTML5
Because by the time .NET launched, they finally got COM working reliably
@BrMcMullin Nope. XAML, C# and all sorts of other stuff
Ok cool, thanks!
20:40
false, I love drama. nobody rubbernecks the drama more than me. laughs
DevDiv puts out some awesome stuff.
i was under the impression this was suppose to be about Twilio, not Apple, Windows, etc.?
There are some good tablets out there.
20:41
powered by ati...
@ChrisF lol
we can talk more about twilio
@ChrisF LOL
what kind of questions do you ahve?
the Touchpad from HP was good hardware
20:41
LOL NOOOPE
but they're getting out of all that stuff
user30
I guess I'm pretty lucky to have got a sim-free Android
I'm a luddite, that image is meaningless to me.
@ThomasMcDonald I didn't even know that was possible.
Yes, the phone that couldn't make calls was certainly ready for release. :P
So much for catching it all live... Offices with doors only matter when the doors are respected.
20:43
what kind of technology stack/tools, etc. does Twilio use? What's on the feature roadmap?
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STICKERS?! ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
I love stickers... =[
Hey, Apple products come with stickers!
what? all our SO minions users love stickers.
@GnomeSlice So does Jeff.
20:44
@TimStone Yeah, but @Jeff doesn't like anyone from Gaming. :P
I know, he's put us in a difficult position.
StackExchange stickers. Discuss.
It's more than "one person", hehe
@Brant They also have that icon burned into the back of everything
20:44
Nope.
if anyone wants a twilio sticker, email me your address to [email protected]
someone is trying to win john's tablet he got for free
Lenovo? More like shitty hardware and horrible design interfaces.
hell yes the trello shirts are hot. sexy, even.
I'd put Dell stickers on other people's computers so mine would look better in comparison.
20:45
Our microwave has an Intel Inside sticker on it.
I have been thinking about putting my Marshall sticker over the annoying HP light on the back of my Pavilion
Wait, did we just manage to change the topic away from stickers for like an entire 60 seconds?
@JohnSheehan one Q ... what do your client's technology distribution look like? do you have a way of knowing what most of your users are using?
Sorry Lenovo but I've used two different versions of your laptops this year and iI have hated them both .
I'd love to support Trello, but my company just acquired a competing product :/
20:45
ahh @JoelMartinez i was just about to type something similar
@RebeccaChernoff I've given up trying to understand the flow of this conversation
@BrMcMullin trello is free....
Lenovo bloatware is by far the most troublesome in my experience
and you can use it for personal stuff
20:46
@TimStone What flow?
@MarcoCeppi Ew, coffee.
@BrMcMullin nothing is worse than Sony suckitude.
I'd love to use Trello more at work, but we're still stuck on IE7 due to one of our main vendors holding us technologically hostage.
@GnomeSlice No, 40oz Beer mug
@MarcoCeppi Ew, beer.
user30
20:46
@MarcoCeppi :|
Beer mugs??
Metallica at a Salesforce conference? Does that say more about Salesforce, or about Metallica?
Web Apps is now Trello Stack Exchange
@Brant Metallica. They done sold out.
I'm guessing if Salesforce is your life, the Black Eyed Peas would be quite a highlight
20:47
@zomp626 perhaps but I had already started using our product before trello was launched
@random only the front page!
my perspective of burning man is naked dudes with beards ... wrong?
@JonGalloway LOL
Who is the guest on the left? Is he a guest
[square brackets
20:48
@ChrisS it's @AlexMiller
Burning Man w/ Herman Miller chairs.
Army story! does a shot
i'm not ignoring your twilio architecture question
I thought everyone squatted when they pooped. :S
i'll get to it :)
20:48
@Shog9 best chairs. i'd be super comfy.
I'm not sure I want to listen to this anymore. x_x
I think uh, we might have gotten a little off track
that title is worth googling. i want that in my google search history.
Pull Kevin out here!
Is this the DIY stackexchange show?
20:49
Why Stack Exchange, what happened to the Twilio discussion?
@JonGalloway i'd be happy if it were.
Censored, of course
Who are those people who got banned from the livestream chat?
@JonGalloway makes my job easier if it were.
20:49
HELP MY FACEBOOK ACCOUNT DOESNT WORK!!
user30
52
Q: Flack Overstow - Generate spam from Stack Exchange posts

Mark Rushakoff Online demo courtesy of George Edison: http://quickmediasolutions.com/flack/ Note: the tool only works for Ask Ubuntu, so you'll need to find your user ID there (assuming you have an account there - otherwise try my user ID there: 5). Screenshot / Code Snippet $ python flack....

@GnomeSlice They posted Ubuntu promotional images
wait a minute - did Jeff just imply that Blankman isn't a bot?
@random ಠ_ಠ
THEY WEREN'T THAT BAD, OKAY.
@random I think I know exactly who :)
20:51
I could write a Visual Studio plugin that... Gah, dammit Joel
if only my Virgin Media 30mbps broadband could stream live video
12
Q: Draft Specification for API v2.0

Kevin MontroseWe've started working on the next version of the Stack Exchange API. The current draft specification is available, and we'd like to hear your feedback! The headlining feature for this release is authentication, v2.0 will remain read-only. To be clear, this is meant to solicit feedback not to ...

Submitting questions from outside the site? That sounds like it might confuse some people.
@ChrisS that's better than our FiOS, dude
"methodical"
20:51
maybe you could have a write API, but approve its use?
Any plans on ever making data.stackexchange.com real time? or updated daily or something more useable?
@GnomeSlice No more than posting questions from within the site seems to confuse them
FiOS <3
Waiting on Tweet to Ask feature
@TimStone I wish I could have FiOS in my apartment.
@ChrisF Well, new users might forget to come back to the SE site the question was sent to to check for answers.
More wife beating questions?
user30
@KevinMontrose Will there be a way for libraries to retrieve the include/exclude settings for filters?
rest-nazis
83
Q: API Documentation and Help

Kevin MontroseMethod List All API methods can be found at http://api.stackoverflow.com/1.1/usage. Global Method Parameters All methods accept the following parameters: type=jsontext: responds with mime-type text/json. key={key}: validates this request to a specific application. (More here) jsonp=functionn...

20:53
Not enough HTTP 418 usage
2
Even in podcast chat, the starred list never fails to make me look like a) a jerk, b) an idiot.
2
You've become Chat.SE's own in-joke.
user30
Also I have a half crafted email somewhere from when you first sent that spec out.
@GnomeSlice Yeah, it's the stars list that does that...
@sjohnston ಠ_ಠ
20:55
@GnomeSlice Consistency man, consistency.
Is there an api explorer like developers.facebook.com/tools/explorer or data.stackexchange.com ?
people weren't discovering the more REST-y bits, so we're simplifying. Driven by too many people asking "where's quote data" (headers) or struggling with checking http response codes.
@ThomasMcDonald yeah, there will almost certainly be.
Is that powered by Twilio?
I think that's called his "phone number"
i got jeff to talk i feel like i've accomplished something
Sweep those HTTP spec status codes under the rug. :-)
user30
@KevinMontrose Okay, that was my first concern, since it's gonna be much easier if I can send a request out at the start of an applications lifespan and then disable particular parsing features (notably pagination if total is excluded by default) rather than guess based on what is and isn't returned
SE got trolled :/
@JohnSheehan So, I got Jeff to step on me in a few meta posts.
sorry :(
20:58
@ThomasMcDonald yeah, there's going to be lots of documentation around doing filters "right". Lots of potential awesome, but it is a bit non-obvious.
can launched sites get custom-designed mobile sites?
Still thinking about the Win8 affordances thing - those are only useful when you're learning the interface, after that they're annoying and a waste of screen space. Example - the arrow in the upper right on windows phone home screen.
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