SE Podcast

M'vy

12:18

Need not to forget that

10:00pm my time :D

Michael Mrozek

17:29

They should start the podcast early if we post X times on Y Stack Exchange sites

M'vy

17:42

lol

random

19:05

M'vy

hum ping pong time???

Paperjam

It seems all time is ping pong time over there.

Alex Miller

pretty much, yeah

kersny

19:21

so is Marco going to be in studio?

Alex Miller

yes

Michael Mrozek

@Paperjam I was wondering about that; half of @StackHQ's tweets are about ping pong

balpha

lol @ Punyon Dew

Michael Mrozek

I tweeted about Punyon Cola last week and two people asked me what it was

Tim Stone

Now you'll have to introduce them to Punyon Dew too.

balpha

19:32

next week Dr. Punyon?

Punyonina?

Michael Mrozek

Does it keep cutting out, or is my connection terrible?

balpha

fine for me -- and my connection has been terrible all day

Michael Mrozek

I got rid of my proxy and switched browsers and it's still doing it. About once every 30 seconds it switches to the loading spinny graphic for a few seconds

Tim Stone

You should stop making it hate you.

Seems fine to me too.

Rebecca Chernoff

if (user==users.MichaelMrozek) { ... }

Kyle Cronin

19:38

The Mouth of Brooklyn has arrived :)

ChrisF

That must be a video loop of Jeff on the wall.

jcolebrand

Hey rchern, which of the SE team is likely to be at the devdays confs?

Michael Mrozek

The chat does it too, it's like it just loses the connection completely

Rebecca Chernoff

@jcolebrand no idea

M'vy

Yop here

balpha

19:41

@ChrisF It is. Why would you spend lots of money on a video wall if you don't put tons of useless stuff on there?

mootinator

too many blue names in here.

=)

M'vy

Join me @mootinator! We shall start a club :P

Michael Mrozek

Suddenly I feel the urge to buy whole crates of apples

mootinator

Excellent.

ChrisF

@balpha I think that would creep me out, especially if it was only just in my field of view

jcolebrand

19:42

I'm curious when @TimStone is going to turn blue ... hold your breath Tim!

Tim Stone

I imagine I'd have to do something to warrant that first, so I doubt holding my breath until that happens is a good idea. :P

jcolebrand

pfffft, details

how do you think the smurfs all turned blue?

mootinator

begs to be put in a special mod hellban where he appears to be blue to himself but none of his actions affect anything.

Jin

greetings

jcolebrand

welcome Jin!

M'vy

19:45

Hi @jin

ChrisF

Evening @jin

mootinator

Hoy @jin

Michael Mrozek

@mootinator Reddit did that for April Fools

ChrisF

@jin Nice looking business cards BTW

M'vy

+1

Jin

19:46

@ChrisF thanks!

jcolebrand

yeah, shame we can't get them for non-trilogy sites :p

(and yes, I know that my site is likely to be forever doomed to being a public beta)

Tim Stone

5

Q: Gaming Moderator Cards

We recently printed some business cards for our Stack Exchange employees and they turned out great. It got us thinking: our sites' moderators have been working hard to keep our sites high quality for the past few years. They may not be employees, per se, but great community moderators are why ou...

Jin

@jcolebrand which site?

ChrisF

@jcolebrand They are being rolled out for mods on SE 2.0 sites

jcolebrand

ya ya ya but I'm a pro-tem

Jin

19:48

i've posted the cards for webapps, gaming, programmers 'n the trilogy sites so far. will slowly to roll out cards for the other SE graduated sites.

Michael Mrozek

@AgentConundrum There's a link in the "about this channel" box on livestream

jcolebrand

@Jin Yeah, which means my site has to gradurate first ;)

Also, I take it you decided no on the QR codes for now?

in place of the heart logo on the backside of the gaming card, you could have a QR code there

Jin

@jcolebrand to be frank, no one uses QR.

jcolebrand

@Jin <sob />

mootinator

I've been barraged with QR codes lately.

jcolebrand

19:50

I've started seeing the likes of my bank using QR codes, and I'm with a shitty bank

Tim Stone

"Oh! Look, a square!"

jcolebrand

I just figure they're starting to come into their own now

Jin

@jcolebrand i think it's a nice geeky novelty.

Alex Miller

Marco is not happy that i loaded windows on my iMac

Jin

they're huge in japan though..

jcolebrand

19:51

@Jin like over 9000? :p

Jin

@AlexMiller is that what you're using to power the big tv screens?

Tim Stone

@AlexMiller It was the right decision.

jjnguy

Is that Jeff on the video wall?

Alex Miller

@no, my desktop is the imac

ChrisF

@jjnguy A video of Jeff - not actually Jeff

Alex Miller

19:52

but we're building a PC rig to drive the video wall

jjnguy

@ChrisF ah, ok.

Jin

i see marco

mootinator

Ceci n'est pas un Jeff.

Michael Mrozek

Do they have a video of Jeff playing 24/7 booming out motivational phrases?

M'vy

@mootinator Magritte-like?

Jin

19:53

i'm gonna make some popcorn before the show starts

Michael Mrozek

I'm going to punch livestream in the face

ChrisF

No sound yet

Bill the Lizard

I wish livestream had an audio-only channel.

mootinator

@Mvy Oui.

M'vy

^^

Shog9

19:54

I wish livestream was like a shoutcast stream I could play on <device> while doing stuff

jcolebrand

@BilltheLizard hear hear

Kyle Cronin

@AlexMiller will the video be recorded?

ChrisF

@BilltheLizard In Chrome it keeps playing even when the tab doesn't have focus so you can do other stuff while still listening

Too much Apple stuff on show - now we know where the VC money's going

Bill the Lizard

@ChrisF I think I'm being rate limited. The video only updates at about 1 frame / 5 seconds, and I'm not getting any audio.

M'vy

Audio is not active @BilltheLizard

ChrisF

19:56

@BilltheLizard Ah - that would be the fatal flaw in my scheme.

M'vy

for the moment

or just sometimes :P

ChrisF

@Mvy He wants just audio - no pictures

M'vy

oh sound's back

mootinator

Snapping into a mic is kinda irritating =)

VxJasonxV

That camera needs a shock absorber. What surface is it on that's making it rattle so much?

Bill the Lizard

19:57

@Mvy No, but I was getting the same thing last week. The audio won't come through once it starts.

M'vy

oh...

Bill the Lizard

So you guys will have to transcribe this for me, m'kay?

jcolebrand

@Shog9 I wish there was a feedback mechanism where we could talk to the studio :p

Nick Craver

@JonathanSampson - it's a globe view of hits to our network over the past n minutes

M'vy

So now we need some cool enhanced reality with names and so :D

Tim Stone

19:59

@BilltheLizard Producer Alex should be signing the entire conversation into the camera for our deaf users anyway.

Jonathan Sampson

@Nick That. is. sick.

Alex Miller

@KyleCronin no

Jonathan Sampson

@BilltheLizard I'll tweet-cast it for you in real time ;)

Darren Kopp

you should put ads for stack exchange sites on that bar and randomly rotate through them during the show

"can you see this bar? then come visit skeptics.stackexchange.com"

Paperjam

@NickCraver I would love to know how you guys did that

Cade

20:00

@jcolebrand Figured I'd see you here.

Jonathan Sampson

@Paperjam I think Google has something just like it in their lobby. Wondering if there's some type of fancy globe app with an api :)

M'vy

Chat twitter widget:
> Access your direct messages until June 30th, 2011.
WTF?

Jonathan Sampson

Feed it some JSON and a spin-velocity and whammo, you're done.

Nick Craver

@Paperjam that is Jarrod's baby, but basically we record traffic from HAProxy to a database nearly real-time, allowing us to query for problem routes, slow pages, etc

VxJasonxV

So ummm. Anyone know why I could hear Alex but can't hear Joel / Marco?

jcolebrand

20:01

@Cade that depends, do I have you on my facebook?

Hogan

should I hear sound?

Joel Spolsky

You shouldn't hear sound while we're getting ready

jcolebrand

@NickCraver this would be soooo cool as a page on the site, maybe preload it with delayed display JSON data as an animation sort of how the weather channel does a radar loop

Michael Mrozek

One of the TVs on the wall should just say "SOUND: OFF" in the largest font they can fit

jcolebrand

EVERYONE LOOK TO THE (um) RIGHT AND READ THE STARRED POSTS

VxJasonxV

20:02

I think you mean right.

jcolebrand

I figured that was obvious at this point.

Tim Stone

The ON AIR sign is misleading, clearly. It should read ON AIR, BUT MUTE.

Hogan

Yeah... the "on air" sign is deceptive.

Jonathan Sampson

The other left ;)

M'vy

Hi hi sir!

Nick Craver

20:03

@jcolebrand maybe, it's just dataporn for now

VxJasonxV

So either, I'm dumb, or it doesn't say anything about the lack of audio for pre-show.

jcolebrand

@NickCraver that's all it would be on the page anyways

@VxJasonxV it says "don't keep bitching about the audio, we know"

VxJasonxV

And having said that, just because I'm curious, why is there no audio during the pre-show?

Darren Kopp

hey, if they didn't want people to keep posting the "where's the audio message", they should have the comment box search for similar comments and ask if you were looking for that comment

Michael Mrozek

@VxJasonxV There was audio earlier; I assume there isn't now because he's trying to get it right for the actual podcast

jcolebrand

20:04

1 min ago, by Joel Spolsky

You shouldn't hear sound while we're getting ready

M'vy

@VxJasonxV because they have private talks?

Jin

@VxJasonxV that's when joel 'n marco curse like a sailor.

Hogan

weeeeee

M'vy

Oh yeah!

VxJasonxV

@Jin Surely this is a big kids show.

ChrisF

20:04

@AgentConundrum It's a video - not the real deal

Jonathan Sampson

Jeff, the over-lord looks over us from above.

Michael Mrozek

Time-delayed? What is this crap; I was promised live

ChrisF

Can you turn the sound up please

Darren Kopp

alex looks like a bar with hair

random

Alex is getting beamed

Jonathan Sampson

20:05

@MichaelMrozek Exactly; by-pass my sense of sound and go straight to my brain! I want absolutely no latency whatsoever.

M'vy

neat :D

random

Is today's product placement sponsor Mountain Dew?

Michael Mrozek

@random Punyon Dew. Far superior

Jonathan Sampson

Let's start flooding the SE server through Brazilian proxies to light up South America on the spinning globe!

balpha

Marco, New York, NY

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Michael Mrozek

20:06

Marco: How do you feel about being on the SE podcast?

Shit.

Tweeted by marcoarment on June 6, 2011 at 5:57 PM

M'vy

That's not fair, he's the only one without chat access :P

VxJasonxV

The Stack Echange Live?

Hogan

4chanette?

Michael Mrozek

Yeah, that just changed I think

Kyle Cronin

I don't think Marco ever was on the podcast

Jonathan Sampson

20:09

It would be nice to get Jeff's video switching in. Right now with Joel and Marco occupying 100% of the screen, it seems like all of Jeff's contributions will be viewed as butting-in to a conversation between two people.

random

They need to get the octobox they have on the 24-hour news channels

Darren Kopp

well, it usually is jeff butting into joels conversation. zing

Jonathan Sampson

Marco, what were your primary sources of inspiration for Instapapr?

random

Is Tumblr Down?

jcolebrand

@random or what twit.tv does. sorry for the repings random

Kyle Cronin

20:12

Marco is "The Mouth of Brooklyn"

Hogan

Made in Westchester stamp

Ivo Flipse

Do I actually need the app to enjoy Instapaper on the iPad?

Paperjam

bookmarklets work on the ipad, so i'm sure it'd work well enough

Ivo Flipse

@Paperjam I meant for reading them, rather than adding stuff

random

@jcolebrand Leo Laporte looks like he has a pipe and smoking jacket

jcolebrand

20:15

@random if he doesn't he should :p

Paperjam

@IvoFlipse ah, I see. sorry, probably should keep quiet since i haven't really used instapaper ;)

mootinator

Hey, step back away from that mic, I was trying not to listen.

Michael Mrozek

Livestream hates me, so I guess I'm just going to listen to the final version

Hogan

@jcolebrand newtek.com/tricaster/tricaster_broadcast.php

Kevin Laity

@Michael Me too, I hope in the future they'll have an audio-only option for the bandwidth impaired :)

Hogan

20:19

@jcolebrand boinx.com/boinxtv/overview

random

Aren't we all on the WinRAR bandwagon wheel?

Paperjam

7zip > *

Hogan

infozip FTW

jcolebrand

@Hogan You're RIGHT! How could I have been so silly. $12,000 sounds like a MUCH better deal than $1,500 ... wtf was I thinking? (how could you suggest something like that when they need something flexible and easy to use and reconfigure at any point in time, and that they can do in about 2 hours one day since they already have a blueprint for the model?)

M'vy

7zip

random

20:20

SU seems to be on and on and on about 7zip

jcolebrand

@Hogan this doesn't seem to be skype compatible

@random 7zip trumps all, so that's probably why

splattne

@AgentConundrum I think Microsoft licensed their zip implementation from SlowZip™.

jcolebrand

@AgentConundrum you should totally drop that and try ~~jQuery~~ 7zip

Hogan

@jcolebrand see 2nd link... that is the cheap option but requires mac -- for both you need external skype or other feeds

random

Is Jeff actually looking at Marco or does he have a tennis ball to focus on?

jcolebrand

20:22

@Hogan see :1152422

@AgentConundrum it unrars just fine, and zips to a tighter format.

what is Joel's question?

mootinator

@AgentConundrum I tend to avoid it.

jcolebrand

PointCast (dotcom)

PointCast was a company founded in 1992 by Christopher R. Hassett in Sunnyvale, California. PointCast Network The company's initial product amounted to a screensaver that displayed news and other information, delivered live over the Internet. The PointCast Network used push technology, which was a hot concept at the time, and received enormous press coverage when it launched in beta form on February 13, 1996. The product did not perform as well as expected, in part because its traffic burdened corporate networks with excessive bandwidth use, and was banned in many places. It demanded mor...

@JoelSpolsky what is your question?

Kyle Cronin

@JoelSpolsky you can use Instacast to download podcasts over 3G

random

Wasn't it, "Was there a Read Later type function in a browser/program before InstaPaper?"?

Kyle Cronin

vemedio.com/products/instacast

random

20:24

@JeffAtwood has been video looped and the crims are breaking into the warehouse.

Joel Spolsky

clusty the crown

Kyle Cronin

wow that's a lot of video lag

15-20 seconds

Tim Stone

Heh, I was thinking the same thing.

Danny Miller

Gotcha @AlexMiller!

jcolebrand

@random I wasn't 100% that was it

Paperjam

20:26

i'm sure it's an intentional delay

for a bleep button or something

M'vy

kiwi?

Hogan

@random It is called bookmarks

jcolebrand

@Hogan you don't use any read later apps do you?

Hogan

I don't

balpha

mootinator

20:27

I just see our corporate logo on fogbugz. Should make the kiwi mandatory.

M'vy

oh that kind of Kiwi :D

Tim Stone

@mootinator "Every time you claim that something that's by design is a bug, a kiwi dies. Please, save the kiwis."

Paperjam

i had to swap out the kiwi logo with my company logo because i kept wondering where its arms were

mootinator

=)

jcolebrand

@random all I can think of anyways is delicious or something similar with bookmark saving services

Hogan

20:29

Hi Jeff!

Octavian Damiean

oh god today is the 15th!

Jon Galloway

I've moved from Readability to Readable bookmarklet - readable.tastefulwords.com (not for later reading, just for removing cruft)

Jonathan Sampson

Marco, any plan to add a feature like a weekly digest of what's waiting to be read in my instapaper?

Hogan

Do you time sheet

Alex Miller

@DannyMiller the worst part is, i only got up because water went down the wrong pipe and i started choking

but ocngratulations sir, well played

splattne

20:30

I think it's because Jeff works at home.

oh yes, Marco said it too :)

Jon Galloway

Working at home solves so many tech challenges. :-)

Danny Miller

@AlexMiller I was so hoping to do it on camera, but figured it was a bit inappropriate

Alex Miller

@DannyMiller you can't really have done it on camera - since by definition i would have seen it

Paperjam

@JonGalloway except how to get better playing ping pong

splattne

@JonGalloway ... but creates social challenges though

Jon Galloway

20:31

Instapaper feature request: tldr.it like summarization

@Paperjam Kinect!

mootinator

I'm back to complain about sudden fluctuations in sound, even though I'm certain they're on my end.

M'vy

@mootinator no problem on my side

Hogan

Ok here too.

jcolebrand

@mootinator they're on your end.

stop asking about the sound problems

Jin

@JonGalloway feature request: summarize TL;DRs with reddit faces comics.

mootinator

20:32

@jcolebrand I'm glad we settled that :)

Jon Galloway

@splattne Yes. Have to be intentional about hanging out with people, and not all of them nerds.

random

Archive is the nice way of say, "Never ever going to read this"

Octavian Damiean

ah great, flash isn't working on this machine right now

Hogan

bummer

M'vy

@random archive should be synonym of deleted :P

splattne

20:34

@Mvy euphemism

Jon Galloway

I like the @codinghorror on the wall monitor. I want to get one of those.

Something about it makes me think Max Headroom

Tim Stone

It was pretty creepy when the camera was closer to the video wall, heh.

Hogan

So far...

Kyle Cronin

I think it's even more insidious than that - Facebook knows when you've viewed a page with one of their like buttons on it

Jon Galloway

Wasn't there something to "like" things via link rel at some point?

M'vy

20:39

Well I guess when facebook will release some kind of search engine based on "likes" spammer will appear magically

Hogan

Agreed M'vy

balpha

+1 is from the Apache mailing list AFAIK

splattne

+1 Marco

Jonathan Sampson

I prefer ++

random

Bing Integrates Facebook Likes Further Into Its Search Results

jcolebrand

20:40

@balpha probably usenet pre eternal september

@KyleCronin as well as google analytics, but to the user

Jon Galloway

Facebook is all about recruiting the next generation of farmers

Hogan

The real gain for facebook is they gain being "the ID" of the internet.

ChrisF

@Hogan So true

Jon Galloway

@hogan Facebook figured out how to make OpenID real

random

@Hogan Facebook's gain is /firstworldproblems' loss of brain

Jonathan Sampson

20:42

Google pushes +1 in Adsense's dashboard.

jcolebrand

google doesn't push +1 as often as they should

Kyle Cronin

I use Disconnect to prevent Facebook, etc from tracking me with those embeds

Jonathan Sampson

> "Adding the +1 button to your pages allows users to recommend your content to friends and contacts on Google search. As a result, you could get more and better qualified traffic."

Kyle Cronin

@AgentConundrum it's a Chrome extension

random

A lot of people "like" in their talking

Jon Galloway

20:43

How does favoriting apply to my stackexchange / stackoverflow searches and results? Could it be used more?

jcolebrand

@AgentConundrum I just figured it out! You're still living in 2005!

Surely you're not still on XP SP3?

Hogan

lol

M'vy

If it was really interesting to us, they wouldn't need ads

jcolebrand

I mean, I have firefox 3.6 on my box still, mostly for firebug, but for everything else I've left it for chrome

random

Sounds like Facebook is the new OkCupid

jcolebrand

20:45

@AgentConundrum firefox, winrar ...

M'vy

Lol: everyone is liying about relationships!

Darren Kopp

why is that bar talking?

Jon Galloway

I hope that kind of intelligence isn't being applied to my viewing of @codinghorror's Friendster profile. It's my homepage, okay?

Hogan

woah... bring it to stackexchange.... shocking.

Jonathan Sampson

Hurray, Jeff. Relevance FTW :)

jcolebrand

20:48

@AgentConundrum I suppose. I know I know, what works for you works for you, and I'm ok with that. Just so long as you know that there are new choices that most people consider "better" then that's what I'm at with this. I know people still using IE7 and quite happy. This is mostly just a good ribbing on my part.

Octavian Damiean

of course you have

register and participate

Hogan

Unicorn up button?

ChrisF

Each "like" gives 1 point of rep ;)

Jon Galloway

Pay bounties with bitcoin!!!!111one!

M'vy

Well ... thanks? for people that can't vote up only?

ChrisF

20:49

Or not.

M'vy

Would be annoying to be spammed by Thanks :D

Ivo Flipse

Feel free to sent me a t-shirt when enough anonymous users have [thank-you'd] my post :-)

Octavian Damiean

that is for a very good reason

Jonathan Sampson

You can leave comments....as answers :(

Octavian Damiean

you can also flag them as not a real answers ;)

Jonathan Sampson

20:51

Haha. I love Joel's, "Oh, you're one of those 'don't give people choices'...apple" interjection :)

Hogan

@JonathanSampson I give your comment +1

Ivo Flipse

Aren't users already logged in to Facebook and Google? :P

mootinator

@Hogan I 'Like' this.

jcolebrand

@AgentConundrum fwiw I'm still on 3.6

Ravi Vyas

who is on the monitor in the background? Jeff Atwood?

David Murdoch

20:52

yup

ChrisF

But not a live feed, obviously

mootinator

Jeff Atwood? Or Dr. CLAW?

Jonathan Sampson

That would be His Jeffness.

random

It's a five second loop

Ravi Vyas

:-)

Nick Craver

20:54

@AlexMiller "Adobe Audition" - is what Cool Edit turned into once bought

adobe.com/products/audition.html

Hogan

@ChrisF I see it move?

ChrisF

@Hogan It's a video loop

Jonathan Sampson

Speaking of Adobe

Hogan

oh yeah... I see that now.

Jonathan Sampson

instagr.am/p/FxKIA

mootinator

20:55

Why does that seem vaguely creepy?

Ravi Vyas

its like... Jeff is watching .. get back to work :-)

Danny Miller

@mootinator It's creepier when you work in the office

Octavian Damiean

I don't understand how you can compare a learning curve with a certain reputation level needed to perform certain actions.

maybe we've switched the topic and I didn't figure

balpha

hellban voting!

wds

Jeff in the background is creeping me out. 1984 all over again.

M'vy

20:57

helleverything? hellflagging, helldownvoting, hellanswering :D

splattne

"North Korea" voting

mootinator

Make the fake votes exchangeable for flowers and SO coffee mugs.

Tim Stone

@JoelSpolsky Jeff recently referred to the the Favorites feature on SO as marking something that's "worth revisiting, for whatever reason", but isn't that just bookmarking? Since I don't think the feedback favoriting gives is utilised in any way, is favoriting even the right word? I kind of feel like "favoriting" implies it's in the same class as "Like" or "+1".

Ravi Vyas

hellAnswer & hellQuestion would be a lot of lol

mootinator

Or a punch in the gut randomly.

Just to keep gaming down.

Jon Galloway

20:58

Users should form clans to pool votes to group vote

Nick Craver

@splattne I was going with Venezuela

Jon Galloway

Like bitcoin pools

Hogan

I don't know... hellban voting gives it a bad image. How about "Unicorn Voting"?

Octavian Damiean

stuffed unicorns!

random

We need more "You're Welcome" posts

Jon Galloway

20:59

Also like bitcoin, the minimum rep to vote, question, etc, should inflate over time

Ravi Vyas

I would love to have a follow a person feature

Jon Galloway

Just kidding

M'vy

Or maybe all question could have thank you harcoded at the end :D

mootinator

@random lol

M'vy

You already thanked everyone in this thread

Jon Galloway

20:59

@RaviVyas I'd like that

Nick Craver

@TimStone people use it in 2 different ways, one set of users use favorites as a bookmark, another set uses them to actively get notifications, more "following" of content

Ivo Flipse

Well users won't get more than 200 rep/day anyway, so if you get a weird peak in one day, it won't affect them anyway.

Jon Galloway

Like github, want to follow users. And fork answers.

Ravi Vyas

and have some social feature which lets me find my friends :-)

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