SE Podcast

Rebecca Chernoff

18:21

pokes

Tim Stone

:o

Oh yeah, this is today again, isn't it?

I think today is Tuesday, at least..

Alex Miller

Indeed it is

starts @ 4pm ET

livestream.com/stackexchange

Tim Stone

Hooray \o/

balpha

18:48

room topic changed to SE Podcast Live Chat: Puppies! livestream.com/stackexchange

Alex Miller

@balpha for future reference - how do I change the room topic?

balpha

on the room settings page (click "info", top right), click the "edit" button

Alex Miller

room topic changed to SE Podcast Live Chat: livestream.com/stackexchange

@balpha Tanks!

balpha

Where??? The invasion is coming???

Alex Miller

Indeed

and we're live! (sorta)

Michael Mrozek

18:57

@AlexMiller I'm watching a robot clean a bathroom floor. The SO offices are so glamorous

Jin

@AlexMiller is Mac-ed out

Alex Miller

@Jin psssh, this is windows baby

just mac hardware

Michael Mrozek

I used to bring my laptop in, until IT decided it was a security risk. >.<

mootinator

Users and podcasts and code, oh my!

ChrisF

Is Shirlock definitely on this week?

Michael Mrozek

18:58

Somebody post something horrifying so we can watch them be traumatized in real time

mootinator

Wait, I'm going to be in a conference call when this actually starts. Booo.

Michael Mrozek

OH GOD

Bill the Lizard

@mootinator Same here. Hey! Where do you work? ;)

mootinator

@BilltheLizard In my livingroom, mostly.

Alex Miller

@ChrisF No shirlock this week - he'll probably be on later this month

today is Sam Saffron

ChrisF

19:00

@AlexMiller Ta

Tim Stone

Waffullllllllllllllllllz

jcolebrand

Wait, I'm not the guest? I thought we established it! Jeff, Joel, Jeffery! :P

What time does it start? Right about now?

Do we have a list of Q's this time?

Tim Stone

►

Michael Mrozek

@jcolebrand An hour

jcolebrand

@MichaelMrozek ah good

Alex Miller

19:01

room topic changed to SE Podcast Live Chat: livestream.com/stackexchange / Today's Guest: stackoverflow.com/users/17174/sam-saffron

Tim Stone

@jcolebrand I prepped since I knew who was going to be on, but now I forgot what I wanted to ask.

So we'll wing it in style as usual.

Rebecca Chernoff

damn, we really pulled out all the VC money for that high tech on air sign, eh?

jcolebrand

I wanna ask what is favorite flavor of syrup is. And cheese.

@RebeccaChernoff hahahaha

Michael Mrozek

I've got many questions. For example, why are we listening to waffles when the masses clearly want drachencole?

jcolebrand

Ok, so for style for this chat, we are doing like last time, and each Q will be starred and bolded until answered

@MichaelMrozek dracole ;) ask @Grace ;)

Also, I only can talk about doing things wrong ;)

Tim Stone

19:03

@RebeccaChernoff needs to get on the show and talk about those super awesome userscripts she heard about.

Michael Mrozek

Speaking of which, did somebody pull the thing that showed the message ID on the right? It stopped working for me, right around the time I synced for the first time in months

Tim Stone

Oh, that's not good. Which browser are you using?

Michael Mrozek

Chrome. Don't ask which version :(

Joel Spolsky

@AlexMiller keeps trying to explain things to me about microphones and video cameras. I keep telling him to take it up with the other kids in the A/V Club

Tim Stone

If it's not dev I'm obliged to tell you to go home anyway.

Alex Miller

19:07

@JoelSpolsky I think I'm doing a fairly good job of trying to keep it purely to the things that actually affect you / need feedback from you

Tim Stone

@JoelSpolsky There is a beta for that floating around somewhere, isn't there? Should have him get on that ;)

Michael Mrozek

There were entirely too few clips of puppies in the last podcast; I'm hoping for at least a 50/50 split between SO talk and puppy clips

ChrisF

Nice to see a messy office

Jin

@JoelSpolsky who are those people behind you? CHAOS?

Bill the Lizard

@MichaelMrozek What do you have against pictures of cats? We could have a hilarious caption contest!

The "video" feed is just a slide show for everyone, right? Not just me?

Michael Mrozek

19:10

I love cats, but you can't break with tradition like that

@BilltheLizard No, it's showing @JoelSpolsky and @AlexMiller working

Tim Stone

@MichaelMrozek Hm, if you Ctrl + F5, you don't get the IDs? There are occasions where it bugs out.

Alex Miller

room topic changed to SE Podcast Live Chat: livestream.com/stackexchange / Today's Guest: Sam Saffron (stackoverflow.com/users/17174)

mootinator

@MichaelMrozek Yeah, if they were CHAOS @joelSpolsky would be dead already.

Michael Mrozek

@TimStone No, that usually works. I'll fiddle with it later, I was just making sure they weren't intentionally removed at some point

Bill the Lizard

@MichaelMrozek I'm getting a spinner and a new picture of Joel and Alex every 10-15 seconds.

Michael Mrozek

19:12

@BilltheLizard You're missing a lot of action then

Tim Stone

They were not. If you find anything that seems to be our fault, lemme know and I'll fix it. Otherwise blame @balpha, I guess.

Bill the Lizard

Poof! Joel disappeared!

Alex Miller

You'll notice I strategically have my audio mixer up on the monitor you can actually see so it looks like im doing work

of course FB is open on the other one

Tim Stone

Skillfully done. golf claps

Michael Mrozek

The video should be split with the other half showing Jeff. Otherwise I'm forced to assume you just fake his half of the conversation

balpha

19:17

@MichaelMrozek The only unexpected downside is that the plastic back is a little rough on the skin if you sit, er... shirtless. -- Sure you want to see that?

jjnguy

Are they really worried about the brand of the soda they are drinking???

Tim Stone

Hahah

Michael Mrozek

@jjnguy There are 27 impressionable viewers

jjnguy

I think that's silly.

Michael Mrozek

I'm already on newegg trying to buy all the hardware I see in the image right now

jjnguy

19:22

Is there really a concern?

Thomas Owens

Am I correct in saying that there's not supposed to be volume yet?

Tim Stone

@MichaelMrozek Pssh, my order already shipped.

Bill the Lizard

Is there an audio-only channel? I'm not getting anything useful from livestream.

balpha

@jjnguy believe it or not, it's possible that they're just having fun ;)

Michael Mrozek

I'd like to thank the "share" link for opening in the same tab. Solid choice, livestream

jjnguy

19:24

@BilltheLizard I think it's supposed to be quiet.

jcolebrand

I didn't think we were gonna clear all the old starred Qs, but I guess it makes sense. I did want to hear about that team's take (and Joel and Jeffs most notably) on distributed teams

Alex Miller

@BilltheLizard there is no audio only live stream, but the audio is posted tomorrow

Rebecca Chernoff

@balpha fun? that isn't allowed here!

jjnguy

@balpha hmmm, good call.

jcolebrand

@AlexMiller can we make that happen in the future?

balpha

19:24

@jjnguy note that it says "Punyon Cola"

Jason Punyon ♦, New York, NY

14.2k 2 25 55

c# .net ruby-on-rails linq sql sql-server linq-to-sql

Michael Mrozek

I think half the reason @jcolebrand became a mod was so he could pin things in chat rooms

jjnguy

@balpha I saw that. But I wonder if Alex was actually concerned.

jcolebrand

@MichaelMrozek :D

mootinator

@AlexMiller You should make audio a $3.99 'premium' service.

Tim Stone

pokes Meta

Alex Miller

19:26

@jcolebrand short answer: no. If you want audio only, just minimize the window :-P

@jjnguy Yes, we're VERY concerned

jjnguy

@AlexMiller I see now!

jcolebrand

@AlexMiller streaming bandwidth would be cheaper, and some of us are sensitive at our job places.

I'll go ask on webapps.

Alex Miller

@jcolebrand actually, ironically, audio streaming is more expensive than video

jcolebrand

@AlexMiller saywhat?

Alex Miller

mainly because there's a lot more competition in the video space

crazy, right

Rebecca Chernoff

19:28

see, now y'all know how we really spend our days. that's some very important work Joel is doing there.

Tim Stone

Ohhh, the offline page is broken, I see.

Bill the Lizard

I want to be CEO some day.

Tim Stone

I dunno, being CTO isn't all it's cracked up to be. I'd caution against that. :P

Alex Miller

Well CTO you have to deal real work

CEO, you just make fake soda labels all day

Tim Stone

Ah, there's my problem. And I do love soda, so.

Bill the Lizard

19:33

@AlexMiller How many sodas does he drink in a day??

ChrisF

Has the stream frozen or is it just me?

Thomas Owens

Working for me. No audio yet, though.

Reno

It looks fine, no audio yet

Bill the Lizard

@ChrisF It's been freezing for me.

ChrisF

Just refreshed and got an ad :( However, people are now moving (if only a little)

Alex Miller

19:37

btw, if you tweet about this, make sure to use the official #stackcast hashtag

Thomas Owens

It's a little choppy at times.

Alex Miller

might be because we're streaming over wifi

George Stocker

For the number of times I do this on every project I start/work on, I'm surprised the ASP.NET MVC team hasn't included the 'ignore favicon.ico' code in every MVC project as a default.

weblogs.asp.net/gunnarpeipman/archive/2009/02/26/…

ChrisF

@AlexMiller There wasn't room in my last tweet - sorry

John Gietzen

So, is there supposed to be audio on on the livestream, or am I missing something?

Alex Miller

19:42

@JohnGietzen There will be starting at 4pm

for now, you're just watching us work

sorry, "work"

John Gietzen

But it is only 2:42pm, here!

flitzwald

@JohnGietzen is missing the audio that I'm not hearing ;)

John Gietzen

;)

jjnguy

@JohnGietzen that's in 18 minutes btw.

John Gietzen

Shake that pen!

Ok, I'll be good now.

Michael Haren

19:45

It's fun to make up what you're talking about.

ChrisF

Is the sound level going to be higher this week? Last week I had to have my speaker volume turned right up and got a fright when I was mentioned in any of the chat rooms.

Alex Miller

yes, it will be

we have all kinds of new mics and toys

ChrisF

Any puppies?

flitzwald

Uh oh..

Michael Mrozek

@ChrisF BONK

John Gietzen

19:48

I haven't listened to the last one.
We need a "Previously on SE Podcast...

ChrisF

@MichaelMrozek Nice try :)

Michael Haren

If anything goes wrong, it'll probably be because you need more monitors on that table

Michael Mrozek

@JohnGietzen They should end each one on a cliffhanger

John Gietzen

"Will Joel make it out of the bear's mouth alive!? find out next week on...

ChrisF

@MichaelMrozek Perils of Pauline or Flash Gordon style!

John Gietzen

19:49

"...S. E. PODCAST!

Michael Mrozek

@JohnGietzen THE END. Question mark?!

ChrisF

or even Dick Barton (for UK oldies)

Michael Mrozek

Alex didn't lock his computer. Rookie mistake

ChrisF

Quick shuffle his windows!

John Gietzen

Add an outlook rule to play a sound!

Michael Mrozek

19:50

@JoelSpolsky Set his wallpaper to a huge picture of waffles, and then ask him why he has that wallpaper when waffles is on the podcast live

flitzwald

I kinda miss that cheesy itconversations.net-Porn-Saxophone intro....

Thomas Owens

Change the desktop background. Need more unicorns.

alumb

no no, screen shot of the current window layout... set as desktop background.

Michael Haren

If you guys want that product placement to work, you gotta make whatever Joel's drinking clearer

Alex Miller

so many great ideas

John Gietzen

19:51

no, no, send a resignation email to his boss!

Alex Miller

so little time to implement

John Gietzen

AH!

balpha

26 mins ago, by balpha

@jjnguy note that it says "Punyon Cola"

Reno

oh teh drama!

Michael Haren

@balpha ah, thanks

Thomas Owens

19:52

Hm. I just hit the rep cap on Programmers...maybe I should actually write code and run projects instead of talking about how to write code and run projects.

jcolebrand

gah, I wanna listen but I'm trying to code ... decisions decisions

Michael Pryor

can somebody send me an @ msg. need to hear boink.

John Gietzen

@MichaelPryor Boo!

Michael Mrozek

@MichaelPryor BONK

Michael Pryor

Thank you!

ChrisF

19:53

@ThomasOwens Nice answer (well technically Good Answer) there though

Michael Mrozek

@ThomasOwens Or take a nap so you're ready to go at midnight UTC

balpha

@jcolebrand just tell them you're compiling

jcolebrand

@balpha ha!

alumb

so glad we finally have chat... so many times I've wanted to reach back through my headphones and tell one of them something.

Thomas Owens

@ChrisF: Which one?

ChrisF

19:54

@ThomasOwens The one you got most of your votes for today ;)

Thomas Owens

Oh. Thanks.

user30

@balpha or bundle installing

ChrisF

Keep up the good work - we need more people with access to the 10K tools

Thomas Owens

I'm surprised it has 27 upvotes. It barely answers the question. It's just that everyone else hit everything else I was going to say.

ChrisF

@ThomasOwens You have a link and you back it up with a solid argument. So we have the information on the site, plus a reference.

John Gietzen

19:56

Man, I really want VS to have Solution Templates... Trying to use DDE to move projects and create references, is a PITA.

Henrik Paul

So, will this start in 5mins, or in an hour?

Thomas Owens

It should start in ~3 minutes, by my clock. Yes?

Henrik Paul

ok, i'm time-zone juggling, so i was just confirming :)

alumb

there is no audio yet, correct?

ChrisF

None here

Henrik Paul

19:57

seems mute for me

balpha

15 mins ago, by Alex Miller

for now, you're just watching us work

Thomas Owens

Mute here as well.

Transcript for