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Yang Muye

12:37

腹すいた　なんかいいもの　食べたいな　とは思うけど　しごとやらなきゃ

季語なしなぁ

あと１時間で、終わりそうで

たぶん

Chocolate

ええとね、Wikiに書かれてるのは

「字余りがゆるされるのは母音ないし撥音が含まれる場合が多い。」

だって。

ここに　ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BF%B3%E5%8F%A5#.E9.9F.BB.E5.BE.8B

最後の１音のことを言ってるのかと思ったんだけど

ようわからん

Anonymous

@YangMuye When that question about "automatic doors" came up, I searched my 電子辞書 for 自動ドア, and I found something surprising. It's listed in a haiku dictionary under 無季. It has an example poem: 「両手の荷　自動ドアにおじぎして」　近藤三知子

Dan Hulme

13:11

I have a quick question that might not be suitable for the main site. In WWWJDIC, kanji spellings of words are often annotated with (P), (iK), or (oK). What do they stand for?

Anonymous

@DanHulme Please see the dictionary documentation: ""Priority" entry, i.e. among approx. 20,000 words deemed to be common in Japanese", "word containing irregular kanji usage", "word containing out-dated kanji"

Dan Hulme

@snailboat great, thanks

the Android app is lacking this documentation page, alas

Andrew Grimm

Would 考拉肉 be the correct Chinese for koala meat? I looked up the Chinese for koala, and added 肉.

Anonymous

Oh, uh, er, um :-)

Anonymous

コアラ肉　T_T

Anonymous

13:18

I don't know Chinese for koala meat

Anonymous

@AndrewGrimm You might send an @ message to YangMuye

Andrew Grimm

@YangMuye Would 考拉肉 be correct Chinese for koala meat?

Yang Muye

13:30

Yes, that's right.

Andrew Grimm

Thanks.

Yang Muye

I just realized it's not a 俳句. So it doesn't need 季語

@Andrew, you're welcome.

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Kaji

14:41

@YangMuye If by not a haiku you mean regular prose, then that's accurate. 短歌 (e.g. 5-line poems) still require 季語 and 切れ字

Yang Muye

@snailboat りょうてのに　じどうドアに　おじぎして it's not 7 5 7...

@Kaji そっか

世の中に、色と酒とが敵なり、どうぞ敵に　めぐりあいたい

My favorite. There is no 季語, ね?

しのぶれど、色に出でにけり、わが恋は、ものや思うと、人の問うまで

no 季語, too, it seems.

Anonymous

@YangMuye I noticed that too, but I have no explanation

Chocolate

こあらにく？？？

食べてもいいの、コアラって

Anonymous

The Andrew Grimm Meat Collection

Anonymous

Sep 1 '12 at 3:49, by Andrew Grimm

But hardly anyone eats crocodile meat.

Chocolate

14:53

うげえ

ｗｗｗｗ

Anonymous

Oct 30 '12 at 12:00, by Andrew Grimm

It's bad enough it doesn't have dolphin meat, but jisho.org doesn't have the Japanese for dog meat!

Anonymous

Jun 28 '12 at 14:14, by Andrew Grimm

Just googled what whale meat is in Japanese. Wikipedia gave me http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/鯨肉 which is 鯨 (whale) ... (wait for it) ... 肉 (meat)

Anonymous

2 hours ago, by Andrew Grimm

Would 考拉肉 be the correct Chinese for koala meat? I looked up the Chinese for koala, and added 肉.

Anonymous

Dec 29 '12 at 22:10, by Andrew Grimm

Question about イルカ肉 on Travel Stack Exchange: http://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/11451/safety-and-practicalities-of-eating-dolphin-meat-in-taiji-japan

Chocolate

犬肉、けんにく、とか・・・いわないかな

Anonymous

14:53

Oct 17 '12 at 11:29, by Andrew Grimm

http://english.stackexchange.com/a/87169/1420 is making me wonder how Japanese refers to lamb (the meat, not the animal). Is it really ラム? Probably make a change to do something more mundane than イルカ肉 and 人魚の肉.

Anonymous

Apr 24 '12 at 14:18, by Andrew Grimm

Of course, you don't learn what 馬刺し is if you don't go to class. I can still remember the obaasan in my class asking what the Japanese for "horse meat" was so she won't order it by accident!

Chocolate

もっと野菜食べよう、アンドリューさん！

ｗｗｗｗ

Anonymous

Hehe!

Dan Hulme

15:08

I'm hungry now

Anonymous

Please, eat all meats at once!

Dan Hulme

what nobody's mentioned is that "dog meat" in English doesn't usually mean the meat of a dog, but meat for a dog

Kaji

@YangMuye Not saying there aren't exceptions to the rule, just that formally the rules require it.

@DanHulme Good point

Anonymous

Does it really? I didn't know that

Kaji

I think the surrounding context colored the interpretation a bit

Anonymous

15:09

I thought it meant, well . . .

Kaji

"When you get home you're dog meat! Understand!?"

Something along those lines

Anonymous

Ahh

Anonymous

The top Google search results for "dog meat" all look like . . .

Dan Hulme

it's a lot rarer than "dog food"

Kaji

Yeah, it's extremely colloquial

Haven't heard it in a long time, myself

Dan Hulme

15:10

but then the meat of a dog is uncommon in English-speaking countries anyway

Kaji

True

Horse meat is often used figuratively as well to refer to something barely edible

Anonymous

Well, attributive modifiers can bear almost any semantic relationship to their following head noun

Kaji

That doesn't have the same inversion as dog meat, however

Chocolate

We have a word けんしょく I think

犬食

「犬を食べる習慣」のことだと思います

たぶん

Dan Hulme

well, eating horse used to be common in the UK until the last century, and even after that, it was quite common to feed horse to your cat

Kaji

15:14

In the US I think it carries more of a desperate connotation, as horses were essential to daily life—especially out west

That, and to most Americans killing a horse for food is about as unthinkable as doing it to the family dog

Anonymous

@Kaji Oh, like a low-altitude taboo-lite Donner Party alternative

Kaji

hehehe...

Along those lines

Tim

16:01

@snailboat I do use Safari, tell me about "sharing": I'll do my best to take it in using my mediocre on-line skills......

BTW: My apple dictionary still contains 大辞泉、類語例解辞典 and プログレシッブ. Do you know how can I get the new dictionaries w/o losing the old? I suspect if I run an update these will be replaced by the new ones.....

Anonymous

@Tim Oh, I don't mean anything fancy. Just the "share" button on Stack Exchange questions and answers should give you working links. (Unfortunately there's no "share" button for comments!)

Anonymous

I think you can back up the dictionaries and reinstall them after updating, if you're careful.

Anonymous

They're somewhere in the /Library folder, I think. (I'm typing this from my phone so I'm not positive)

Dan Hulme

16:20

There's one other thing about the "share" links: they have your user ID, which the site uses to track how many visits you're responsible for. You get badges for bringing lots of people to a question.

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Kaji

18:21

@Tim I pulled them from an old G5 that had Leopard on it (been running Macs for a long time) and put them on my new machines from there. I've also got backups I keep in Dropbox just in case something happens during reinstalls and so forth

Not sure if upgrading kills them or not, but if you have a backup it's easy to put them back into place after the upgrade is complete

Also, the dictionary files themselves are stored in /Library/Dictionaries (note that this is the root library, not the user library)