Ye Olde Hat Shoppe

TypoCubeᵀᴹ

00:06

The theory about the Mad Hatter, is it posting at :00 or at :15 ?

DavidPostill

@TypoCubeᵀᴹ Either

bleh

00:40

i thought someone got it at 45

Alexander O'Mara

Trend Setter still unknown?

Emily M

is it okay to post a link to just a random question without asking for clicks or anything just to share it?

bleh

random???

Paul White

@EmilyM What for then? I mean, would it be relevant here?

DavidPostill

lol.

bleh

00:44

I think its a timed hat trendsetter

why is everyone getting it today?

Paul White

It only started today.

bleh

what did?

TypoCubeᵀᴹ

@DavidPostill has it worked for anyone that posted at a meta site (not the SE.meta)?

Paul White

@bleh The TrendSetter hat.

1 hour ago, by bluefeet

@David considering trendsetter just popped today, I'll leave that one for a bit :)

bleh

@PaulWhite exactly. Why hasn't it popped before?

Paul White

00:51

@bleh Because that's how it was set up, I presume. That's happened in recent years as well. Also some regular hats are only active for a day or range of days, no reason that shouldn't apply to secret hats as well.

DavidPostill

@TypoCubeᵀᴹ No idea.

TypoCubeᵀᴹ

@bluefeet could confirm or deny this: can activity on the various meta sites lead to hats?

DavidPostill

@TypoCubeᵀᴹ Well we already know that some hats can be awarded on meta sites

Paul White

@TypoCubeᵀᴹ lightbulb

meta.SE has seen a considerable increase in hat-related activity.

DavidPostill

@TypoCubeᵀᴹ For example I have "I Am Your Father", "Abominable" and "Egoist" on meta.se

Paul White

00:57

@TypoCubeᵀᴹ I Am Your Father = post/vote on meta, so the answer to your question is trivially yes.

TypoCubeᵀᴹ

OK. thnx. I guess my question was silly.

@DavidPostill But that is a conundrum, right? How did we get the I Am Your Father at Meta.SE? I don't see any posts at meta.meta.SE ;)

DavidPostill

@TypoCubeᵀᴹ I'm too tired to understand what you are going on about.

Emily M

@PaulWhite actually nevermind ><

TypoCubeᵀᴹ

I got "I am your father" at stackoverfow because I did something on its meta site. Right?
So why did I get the "I am your fater" at meta? Because I did something ... where?

bleh

ok what

DavidPostill

01:15

@TypoCubeᵀᴹ Wrong. You got it on meta.so. It shows on the child site which is so. meta.se doesn't have a child site so it shows it on meta.se itself.

bleh

o that makes more sense

Andrew Li

01:38

@DavidPostill The parent is SO, not the child

Panda

Hi!

bleh

hi

Panda

No idea for Trendsetter ;)

DavidPostill

@AndrewLi s/child/parent/g

@Panda I added something to the gdoc

Panda

@DavidPostill I see, thanks

Andrew Li

01:43

I might take a break from hatting

On vacation :(

When the winners of WB are announced, it's based on network wide hats right?

alecxe

Got the trendsetter

DavidPostill

@alecxe How do you think you got it?

alecxe

@DavidPostill yeah, I think you are right. I've mostly just tried different hats on SO.

and tried to put them upside down as well

thanks for the ideas!

@AndrewLi yup, I think they use the network-wide scoretable

DavidPostill

01:58

@alecxe No problem. I'm still not sure what the exact trigger is but I'm guessing it's a combination of hats worn and customised hats.

goldPseudo

02:10

"This is Fine" timing is wrong.

i just got it for a post I wrote on the 16th.

timing probably based on when the bounty is awarded (or not awarded) rather than when the answer was written.

bleh

02:27

I can confirm that wearing hats upside down will get a trendestters

David

@bleh what hat do you have to wear? because I tried that.

bleh

I wore 2 secret hats

taco and this one

the where in the world

DavidPostill

@David I wore 6 and 8mil upside down (and a couple of others). I also used the controls to adjust the size of the hats.

bleh

So i think its just wearing secret hats

DJMcMayhem

@bleh how long did you wear them before getting it?

bleh

02:32

upside down

i went afk for an hour so im not sure

David

interesting

DavidPostill

@DJMcMayhem Today and yesterday for sure.

bleh

I'm going to try it again

DJMcMayhem

It took that long? OK, I guess I'll have to afk for a while

Anonymous

I'm trying it now. I need to maintain my lead.

DJMcMayhem

02:33

I've got 8 mill upside down now

@Mego darn it, that's what I was trying to take! :P

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem You will never surpass me in the hat race

DavidPostill

I'm 4 in front on Super User :)

David

but this does not make since why is today the firs t day to see this hat. LOTS of people wear the hats upside down.

DavidPostill

@David Maybe today is also the trigger.

bleh

it would be yesterday wouldnt it

UTC

David

02:36

well if the upside down thing does proove to be the trigger, then yes I guess that would be the case.

DavidPostill

@bleh OK. Tomorrow is the trigger day with today working because of UTC stuff

David

if I remember correctly you get about 16 hours on each end of the day because of all the times zones.

DavidPostill

@David Something like that.

bleh

Oh well then

Anonymous

No trendsetter for me yet

DavidPostill

02:41

Oh, of course when I say tommorow I mean today because it is now today here :)

Damn time zones :)

3

bleh

^^^

DavidPostill

At least I'm on UTC 0, so I suppose I should be grateful ;p

Anonymous

03:28

I've tried messing around with hats a bunch. No trendsetter.

David

@Mego me too

Panda

04:04

@Mego Yea, I switched 5 hats and still no sign of it

alecxe

I've also close-voted duplicates at that time, but I doubt this is related

Panda

@alecxe Lol, no harm trying :P

alecxe

well, Zanna did that recently, had to check

Panda

@alecxe Any idea if it got to do with the site the hat is earned from?

Maybe wear a hat not earned from the site upside down?

alecxe

sounds worth checking, I've just randomly tried out different hats, wore them, turned upside down and also hit "this site only" couple times

brute-forcing it :)

yeah, brute-forcing Winter Bash

Panda

04:13

Lol

Bhavin Ramani

05:16

Any clue on "trendsetter" ?

orthocresol

05:37

@goldPseudo Yes, you are correct:

The description for this is fire is incorrect. I awarded a bounty on Chemistry on the first day of Winterbash, and all the answers that had been there pre-Winterbash got the hat. The time of posting the answer does not need to fall within WB (however, it may be that the answer needs to be posted during the bounty period). — Jan Dec 20 at 16:43

Panda

@BhavinRamani Nope

I still can't seem to get it

Bhavin Ramani

@Panda Got trendsetter in 10 min after wearing a hat upside down

:D

Panda

@BhavinRamani Wow, I wore it upside down for 3 hours already

Which hat did you wear? :P

Bhavin Ramani

@Panda "What's Up, Doc?"

Panda

@BhavinRamani Thanks, lemme try it :D

Kaz Wolfe

06:36

testing trendsetter too

Panda

09:35

Anybody recently gotten trendsetter?

Hats Stack Exchange

10:47

1

Q: Got "Buche de Noel" hat on Dec 24 instead of "Have a little Dreidel"

Today (Dec 24, ~11AM local time, 10AM UTC) when I voted on a post (both Ask Ubuntu and Meta SE), I received the "Buche de Noel" hat on both sites. However, the description of that hat on http://winterbash2016.stackexchange.com/ reads post or vote on December 25 The hat I expected to get in...

Willeke

11:15

Anywhere in the world, I just checked the world time and date map: timeanddate.com/time/map

Alex

12:20

anyone know how to account time for hats? In my country now 24 desember and i get Bûche de Noël (ask, answer, or vote on December 25th). what time zone is used?

DavidPostill

0

A: Got "Buche de Noel" hat on Dec 24 instead of "Have a little Dreidel"

Bûche de Noël is awarded between 10am UTC on the 24th (12am of the 25th in some Pacific islands) and 11:59am UTC on the 26th (11:59pm of the 25th in some other Pacific islands). I Have A little Dreidel is awarded between 10am UTC on the 24th (12am of the 25th in some Pacific islands) and 11:59am...

Willeke

I think it is one of the 'anywhere in the world' timezone ones.

I do not yet have the A little Dreidel even though I have been active on several of the sites yesterday and today.

DavidPostill

@Willeke There was a bug "That said, the second did not happen because of a stupid error which I've corrected now.". See the above link I just posted.

Willeke

Thanks

DavidPostill

That answer was posted < 5 minutes ago, so I guess the next hat run will award "A little Dreidel"

Willeke

12:26

Good to know. I am on 13 hats on one site and I do not like the number 13.

DavidPostill

@Willeke Triskaidekaphobia?

Willeke

Maybe. But I have had some nasty surprises on days/events connected with the number 13 and I feel better avoiding it.

ETHproductions

How often do hats get awarded? Every five minutes?

Willeke

Not really a phobia, though.

One mention I saw that for one hat it was 10 minute intervals.

DavidPostill

@ETHproductions Every 10 minutes. However the award of some hats requires badges to be awarded first so the hat award may take longer.

ETHproductions

12:31

OK, cool. I too was wondering how I'd earned a hat for participating on Dec 25th but not one for participating on the 24th :P

Willeke

12:41

Either the bug has not been really sorted yet or the hat awarding is slow because of too many hats to award at once.

I spoke too soon, it has arrived, the I Have A little Dreidel, two at once as I am active on two sites today.

Rory Alsop

13:19

Dreidel has turned up on every site - was that maybe waiting until after 1200UTC

Hats Stack Exchange

0

Q: Can the description for Snaphat be changed?

It seems that the description of Snaphat is still not changed to match its implementation. As quoted from Why was the snaphat not awarded? Or why was it awarded incorrectly?: While the description of the hat is answer within 30 minutes of the question being asked, scoring 3 and get...

bug winterbash winterbash-2016

Willeke

I checked on the lower levels in the leaderboard and it seems to have been awarded to everybody who has been active yesterday, regardless of activity today.

Wrzlprmft

I was just awarded dreidels on six sites without doing anything.

Rory Alsop

I only got it on sites I have been active on

Wrzlprmft

@RoryAlsop Me too, but not in any temporal vicinity to earning the hat.

Willeke

13:46

I have done a series of hat changes in a short time. Wearing all 14 I had at the time. Did not earn me a new one. Now I am trying to change every 10 to 20 minutes, so that it can be registered by the hat bot that I am wearing a different one for each.

Videonauth

14:07

Ich wünsche allen Menschen auf dieser Erde, unabhängig ihrer Herkunft und glauben, frohe und besinnliche (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1spfhhb

Tweeted by videonauth on December 24, 2016 at 2:03 PM

(its english too)

Willeke

Thanks @Videonauth And the same from me.

Videonauth

Thank you

Hats Stack Exchange

1

Q: Does bonus rep deductions count against the Running Ragged hat?

The Running Ragged description states: earn 150 reputation points on three different sites (not including Stack Overflow) within 15 days. I've not received the hat yet, but I've earned 242 rep on Meta and 160 on Movies & TV: On English Language & Usage I've received 372 rep, but I've st...

support winterbash winterbash-2016

BDM

FWIW (re trendsetter) have been wearing one different hat a day, none upside down, active every day, not anywhere near the top of the leaderboard. And happy holidays too!

Anonymous

Maybe it's just change your hat daily for X number of days

Anonymous

14:19

That wouldn't be too crazy of a requirement

BDM

Sounds reasonable. How about voting on new posts, or voting on something that later gets more votes? Just because I haven't done much besides reading/voting yesterday and today, and as 'trendsetter' suggests gaining some kind of following. Probably just the hat thing though.

Willeke

I vote like mat (mostly reach the limit at 38 / 39 /40 each day on one site) and did not get the hat yet.

I am pretty sure voting is not the reason unless it is time specific as well.

Anonymous

If it was just voting on new stuff, the hat would've appeared day 1

BDM

Sure. Just wondering if it had been considered, thanks for confirming.

Anonymous

Since it took 3 days to appear, it's probably change your hat daily for 3 consecutive days (similar to the searching one)

BDM

14:29

@Mego is it a given that hats aren't introduced throughout the winter bash? Besides date-specific ones like Hannukah, Christmas and Epiphany?

Anonymous

@BDM Basically. It's always been the case that new hats aren't added.

BDM

Cool.

Willeke

Any other high volume voters around?

David

14:46

62

Q: Why didn't (or did) I or some other user get a hat although the requirements were (or weren't) fulfilled?

During Winter Bash, users can earn hats. But sometimes it seems that a hat was awarded even though its requirements weren't (yet) met, or vice versa. What could the reason for this be?

support winterbash

for all the questions about how am I getting this hat, or why did I not ge this hat.

PS this date based hat question come up every year on meta.

Sardar_Usama

15:16

Guys, will there be any reward/badge or anything for earning hats that will remain after winterbash?

X-27

@Sardar_Usama nope, hats go poof after the bash ends :(

Sardar_Usama

not good :/ there should be some badge atleast

Willeke

I did a screenshot of my 'you got these hats' last year, you can use that in your usual chat and brag about it.

X-27

15:31

:)

Willeke

Is that bragging? :P

X-27

it tis'

:)

Andrew Li

15:51

The amount of questions is noticeably smaller on SO because of holidays

nothing to answer

Willeke

If it is smaller on SO, look at one of the smaller boards, nothing new being asked in the last day.

Andrew Li

Wow

Trying to get 150 rep on 3 sites is incredibly hard

I only have +300 on meta.SE

Alexander O'Mara

I'm set on Meta.SE, and as soon as 1 more edit is approved on SuperUser I'll be set there.

Need to find a third.

I've been hoping for Security.SE, but no luck lately.

Willeke

I have two accepted answers on one site both still without upvotes. Can get mild mannered only once per site, so upvotes would be welcome now :D

Even my normal travel is very slow today.

Andrew Li

@AlexanderO'Mara Just suggest a ton of edits?

Non-SO sites are slow with queues

Willeke

16:08

Not always. Travel usually has 3 to 8 in the queues but often non at all.

When there are some they are mostly needing higher level reviewers, not new members.

Alexander O'Mara

@AndrewLi Nah, I got a +12 answer too.

Andrew Li

16:19

@AlexanderO'Mara darn.

Alexander O'Mara

@AndrewLi +13 now, guess the edit is just a bonus.

Andrew Li

@AlexanderO'Mara Link?

What makes a question hot?

Alexander O'Mara

@AndrewLi The question? superuser.com/questions/1159758/…

Andrew Li

I'm not knowledgeable in anything :(

chrki

SE routine maintenance

now?? :D

Alexander O'Mara

16:28

@AndrewLi Depends. On Security, it's the latest popular hack. On Skeptics, it's Trumps latest absurd tweet. :p

chrki

oh its up again

Andrew Li

@AlexanderO'Mara I can only read, not answer :(

Willeke

Me as well. I have joined a few sites this WB but only where I can answer.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

16:54

lel I just got the dreidel hat * 3 for clicking links

Willeke

Easy one to get. As is the Jule log

Alexander O'Mara

Oh, that question somehow made the HNQ list. No wonder my answer got so many upvotes.

Willeke

Your A much more than the Q.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

17:37

hey I got trendsetter

just now

on PPCG

haven't done anything there this mornign yet

DJMcMayhem

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I think it's something like changing your hat once a day over several days

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

oh, that's for me then

I change it every new hat I get

and I've been getting 1 per day

DJMcMayhem

Couldn't say for sure though. The other theory is wearing upside down

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

hm, maybe lel

@DJMcMayhem any luck with that?

DJMcMayhem

That's how I got it

I'm not sure if it was that or something else though

Willeke

17:51

I have been changing hats a lot today and some yesterday, including upside down, no new hat out of it.

I will try again tomorrow.

BDM

@DJMcMayhem I haven't worn any hat upside down. Perhaps a slightly tilted cup trophy, but that's all.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

^

@DJMcMayhem oh, I thought you meant the hatter

maybe it's for immediately wearing a new hat?

Willeke

I tried that as well, no luck there either.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

hm

Kaz Wolfe

wear every hat once?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

18:05

maybe

@KritixiLithos try wearing every hat once, to test?

Kaz Wolfe

i think you need to wait a while for hat-checks to catch that you're wearing that hat.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yeah, probably

I don't think I have though, not sure

Kaz Wolfe

because i've gone through my list, changing every 10s, and no trendsetter.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yeah, I haven't worn my spork yet i don't think

nitsua60

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Same here, so I can take a snapshot. Just got it this morning.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

18:06

oh, or the dreidel and I got that first

Kritixi Lithos

I don't want to wear hats...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

lel but you collect them

nitsua60

@DJMcMayhem Can't be--I haven't touched the controls for days, and never flipped a hat upside-down

Kritixi Lithos

I know, I'm the only guy in PPCG's first page of the leaderboard who doesn't wear hats

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

lel

Kaz Wolfe

18:09

Trendsetter and 8,243,721 have me stumped.

Andrew Li

I have an answer with accept and no score. Let's see if I get mild mannered

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@KazWolfe yeah, 6 too

nitsua60

@AndrewLi Problem is, it's got to stay low for a while. That's what's tripped me up a few times.

Kaz Wolfe

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ wait no, that's BITF. nevermind.

Andrew Li

@nitsua60 I hope it does

I got the accept at 10:00 PST. Let's wait until 20:00 PST

Kaz Wolfe

18:14

yeah, i got 6 but no idea how.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@AndrewLi we'll see!

now I'm bowing outta here to try to dodge extended family, see y'all later today

it's 10:15 for me now

Andrew Li

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ PST?

DJMcMayhem

@KazWolfe 8 mil is deleting your own comments, not sure about trendsetter

Andrew Li

Or PDT if daylight savings?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@AndrewLi yep, southern cali

Kaz Wolfe

18:17

@DJMcMayhem i nuked a lot of my old comments for 8mil, no hat.

DJMcMayhem

Hmm. Not sure then

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

and just got 8 mil, can confim for delted comments

Andrew Li

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ In Anaheim right now :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@KazWolfe posted during winterbash?

@AndrewLi eyyyyyy

Andrew Li

really?

Kaz Wolfe

18:18

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ no, actually old comments.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

claremont, I'm about 30 min away

Andrew Li

Nice

Kaz Wolfe

like over 1y old

DJMcMayhem

I deleted recent ones

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@KazWolfe I was talknig to OP and clarifying his question, I closed, edited, commented, and vtro

and I got 180 and 8 mil

right now it has 4 votes still

Kaz Wolfe

18:19

link?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

not SO, you dont have RO privs

but here

Kaz Wolfe

huh, i see...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

18:46

any leads on 6/bert?

David

19:35

@KritixiLithos you are not alone. It was only yesterday that I put one on.

rekire

20:12

hello guys

merry christmas hat hunters!

are there any hints regarding the Trendsetter hat?

redstarcoder

^

DavidPostill

@rekire docs.google.com/document/d/…

rekire

@DavidPostill I just finished reading that section^^

DavidPostill

@rekire <shrug> then that's it for the moment

rekire

@DavidPostill thx :)

Wrzlprmft

20:51

Just got the Taco hat on ELU, if anybody wants to investigate (edit history)

Willeke

22:17

Just got my polymath, I thought you needed 450 rep for that, 150 each site but I got it when I got +1 on one site, total 150 rep over three sites.

And the Blue face, at the same time.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

22:40

oic nice

Wrzlprmft

@Willeke You are confusing it with Running Ragged.

Willeke

OK, thanks

Ah, polymath is only 'well received answer'

user143228

23:07

@rekire After a day of inactivity, I got it at the same moment as a silver badge for 2500 views on a 3 day old question...

Willeke

That is a nice surprise,

rekire

A silver badge you say? hm

Willeke

Did the Q make the hotlist?

rekire

in that case I have an candidate for a silver badge here: stackoverflow.com/q/25684167/995926 just one upvote required

Willeke

I can not do that, not a member of overflow.

rekire

23:21

I got a silver badge

DavidPostill

@rekire :)

rekire

no new hat yet

Andrew Li

Can I edit a pending edit?

rekire

@AndrewLi I guess not except you review it

Andrew Li

Darn

Willeke

23:27

Try and see what it says.

Andrew Li

I forgot to edit the title here: superuser.com/q/1159957/605470

Willeke

I know I have tried in the past.

rekire

I have to low rep on su

Willeke

I have no rep there.

rekire

I have there a funny reputation graph: superuser.com/users/538822/rekire

I started at that page with 266 rep

Andrew Li

23:31

@rekire I have 2^7 rep there

rekire

nice hehe

Andrew Li

Is it okay to ask someone if your answer worked?

What else should I try for? I'm going for +150 on Meta.SE and SU

rekire

I guess I will stop hunting hats. since I don't want to make rep on sites where I am not active... the rep cap is much too hard for me since I almost never get more then 50 rep per day

Andrew Li

SO is easy due to traffic

Willeke

I have had some of my best rep days during WB last year. The next few days people will come in, hat hunting, upvoting everything in sight.

It is still early days, and so far most people were working or busy preparing for the feast days.

In a few days they will come in, well eaten and a bit lazy

rekire

23:39

I tried today the snaphat hat but I get no upvotes in time :/

Willeke

I did not even see a single question I could answer.

single new question that is.

ETHproductions

I've been away for 5 hours and just found that I've received 6 on PPCG sometime in that period.

rekire

The only hat I might could get is Fiery

ETHproductions

I believe I received 2 answer comments, 5 answer upvotes, and an answer downvote in that time. Perhaps it has something to do with an answer with a score of at least 6 being downvoted?

It was this answer that got downvoted.

rekire

I got the 6 hat very random. more or less I just logged in

ETHproductions

23:43

I'm sure it'll be super obvious as soon as they tell us the criteria at the end of Winter Bash...

Willeke

I am hoping for more activity on the sites in the rest of the WB. If not, I am #2 on one leaderboard right now and #1 on an other. (Where I started after the WB had been running a few days.)

rekire

I am not really sure how but I got it manged to be on #3 :)

Willeke

That whole site has all of 53 hats together ;)

rekire

@Willeke that is not much^^

Willeke

Ah, the regulars have woken up and now there is someone with 5 hats and one with 4, catching up on me.

No, it is not much indeed.

Nobody who is just a regular in those kind of sites can win the WB overal.

ETHproductions

23:57

I'm tied for first on PPCG, which has 1667 hats altogether :-)

DavidPostill

@ETHproductions I'm 5 in front on SU (5,384 hats) ;p

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