Ye Olde Hat Shoppe

Rob

03:00

Okay - let's all upvote the two comments here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/3122/formatting-sandbox/…

Saiid

lol

Andrew Li

Why is there gray and black in the text? One color on text

JamesENL

Done

Balarka Sen

done

veryRandomMe

This is a comment‮dilav sa deggalf neeb sah tnemmoc sihT‭ — Johannes Kuhn May 14 '13 at 12:01

Oh I'm dead

Andrew Li

03:02

Can I get rid of the highlighting with comments?

MasterBob

@AndrewLi what do you mean?

veryRandomMe

^^

Andrew Li

On the doc

There are highlights on sections with comments

Saiid

I've got 6 and 6, just waiting 10 minutes to see if it's being affected by #HatLag

Rob

Might need a bit more

MasterBob

03:03

@AndrewLi i dont think you can fix that

veryRandomMe

@AndrewLi I'm not sure

Andrew Li

Darn

Rob

I remember there were 7-8 on the second comment

Andrew Li

It's triggering my OCD

Saiid

lol

veryRandomMe

03:04

We should highlight it all

Andrew Li

Darn. webapps.stackexchange.com/a/41844

Balarka Sen

I definitely do feel hatlag. But I'll keep awake until we get blue in the face.

Saiid

@veryRandomMe Was just thinking that

Andrew Li

Whatever. I'll resolve all the comments, but they'll still be accessible through the comments button

JamesENL

@BalarkaSen That's a dangerous statement

MasterBob

03:05

@AndrewLi resolved one

veryRandomMe

@AndrewLi Lol, I just googled the same thing

Although it is pretty old

Balarka Sen

@JamesENL Intentional pun, I assure you.

MasterBob

Saiid

Maybe I also need the [tour] link?

veryRandomMe

@MasterBob hey

stop it

MasterBob

03:06

@veryRandomMe why

veryRandomMe

because

oops

MasterBob

:)

Saiid

I added another comment with [tour]

just in case

MasterBob

anybody got some SO questions that i can vote on

i need to earn electorate

JamesENL

@MasterBob me me me me!!!!

Just not too much, don't want to get serially reversed

stackoverflow.com/users/2357233/jamesenl?tab=answers

Easy link for your convenience

Alexander O'Mara

03:13

Darn it, someone ask a good question already!

Andrew Li

The struggle

JamesENL

@AlexanderO'Mara does it need to be a new question?

Andrew Li

@JamesENL Don't encourage serial upvoting

Alexander O'Mara

@JamesENL No, I suppose not.

JamesENL

@AndrewLi that's why I said "Just not too much, don't want to get serially reversed"

Andrew Li

03:14

@MasterBob You too... don't around voting recklessly, vote fairly on worthy questions

JamesENL

Oh wait.... he said questions

Not answers.... my bad

Rob

There's already been a warning from bluefeet about not littering the site in search of hats

MasterBob

yeah

Andrew Li

@JamesENL Asking someone to upvote your posts without any real legitimate motive other than to go towards badges or something similar is encouraging bad behavior

Rob

Even though this is for a badge, this seems like vote brigading. You should vote organically and not based on users

2

MasterBob

03:15

@Rob fine

Rob

Sort questions by votes descending if you want to find interesting questions and answers you might want to vote on

JamesENL

sigh that's the problem with hanging out in weird tags

Rob

@JamesENL Such as java? ;)

JamesENL

Ehhhh, more spring & hibernate

Although I guess an 30+ score on an answer isn't too bad

Andrew Li

@Rob way more elegantly put than me :)

MasterBob

03:18

@AndrewLi and more convincing as well :)

@AndrewLi any idea how you got the taco hat

we're so close to getting the trigger for the hat

Panda

6 really seem to be a weird hat

MasterBob

bert's hat

Saiid

19 mins ago, by Saiid

I've got 6 and 6, just waiting 10 minutes to see if it's being affected by #HatLag

:/

JamesENL

So nothing?

Saiid

correct

Hats Stack Exchange

03:24

0

Q: Not receiving the Abominable hat?

According to every single answer to this question, the Abominable hat can be earned by raising a close flag on a question that is later closed. Let me be clear that I did this with three separate questions and I did not receive the hat. Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong?

Andrew Li

I upvoted, you should receive the hat soon — Saiid 1 hour ago

@Saiid please vote based on content, not just because

Saiid

lol

okay

You know, this whole event is pretty much asking for spam

Andrew Li

If something asks for something, doesn't mean you should :P

MasterBob

how about that its bribing us for spam

with hats!

Saiid

^^

Andrew Li

03:30

> Hats? People will do anything to get a hat! It'll be anarchy! Hatarchy!
Worry not! All normal site rules still apply. If you're caught sockpuppeting for hats, you will be suspended, just as you would be normally.

Just saying

You could sell your soul for hats, nothing stopping you

Saiid

lol

ATaco

Any luck on Taco yet..?

Saiid

nope

JamesENL

Nein

MasterBob

nah

ATaco

03:36

I've proved a few things false atleast.

MasterBob

i tested it and it seems to be multiple posts

JamesENL

Such as?

ATaco

Simply not specifying the Edit Summary does not grant the hat, three in a row is also not the case. Non-alpha-num chars is also not the case.

MasterBob

ask andrew how he got the taco

JamesENL

Maybe we can get Puzzling to help work out the criteria for They Live.... We've got 4 test cases, now we just need to come up with a question to solve what all the edit numbers have in common

I'll write it up into a question

MasterBob

03:39

@JamesENL please speak english

ATaco

Is it cheating to hire Puzzling to do it..?

JamesENL

@ATaco technically it is a puzzle

MasterBob

wait who is Puzzling

JamesENL

MasterBob

oh lol

Volatility

03:41

@JamesENL I don't think it's based on number of each review type

JamesENL

Well we've got 4 possibilities that worked. Surely that should be enough to come up with a solution

@Volatility it has to be, surely

Saiid

@JamesENL What are the criteria? I could help out

Or just post here

JamesENL

Volatility

People have tested one of each type, and not gotten the hat (myself included)

But various edit patterns show that it can't be more than one of each type

MasterBob

first one is 20 actions, second 10 actions, 3rd 18, 4th 18

JamesENL

03:43

Yes, so the theory is it's some multiple of each vote type

Volatility

(look at the second one)

MasterBob

could the votes be weighted?

JamesENL

They didn't count the skip count

That could be an issue

MasterBob

skip? what do you mean im so confused right now

Volatility

If it helps, I got the hat just after I reviewed (Reject) an edit on a really old post

@MasterBob in the Suggested Edits review queue

JamesENL

03:47

@MasterBob When you are reveiwing there's an option to skip that review

Volatility

You have to have more than 2000 rep to access it

MasterBob

yeah i know, but i doubt it counts

i meant

@Volatility i know

JamesENL

It'll probably be something like 'Cast the deciding approve vote on a question that has 2 rejection votes on it'

Nah, I don't think a question on Puzzling will be well received due to a lack of a concrete answer

MasterBob

@JamesENL possibly

@JamesENL but theres testing; there is some sort of a concrete answer at least

JamesENL

Hmmm maybe it's worth a shot

Saiid

03:51

lol

Volatility

The problem is we don't know whether it has anything to do with review patterns, so the question might not have the correct data for someone to solve it

MasterBob

hmm, you can try sharing the google docs link

JamesENL

Hmm yeah

I'm distilling the things in the google doc into the question

Saiid

@MasterBob ?

MasterBob

@Saiid ?

Volatility

03:53

You could just link to users with the hat, though I'm not sure how well it would be received

MasterBob

@JamesENL nah, just share the link

@Volatility yeah, along with the gDoc link

Saiid

@MasterBob I'm not sure what you mean

MasterBob

@MasterBob to share the link in the question

usukidoll

I need a hat to fit my pokehead

MasterBob

see my hat

boboquack

03:57

For taco does not typing enough in work?

But still typing something in

ATaco

I don't think there's a minimum you can edit?

MasterBob

10 characters

boboquack

No, like in the summary

ATaco

Empty or minimum summaries have been proven to not be the only cause.

Volatility

So, for They Live, I've looked at the reviews I did on the day I got the hat, and it looks like I reviewed 5 edits on posts at least a year old (of course it might not be limited to a single day)

MasterBob

03:59

@Volatility actually, that seemed to be for elementary

Volatility

Elementary was edits

I mean reviews for They Live

Andrew Li

Well They Live was in suggested edits too, no?

MasterBob

@Volatility oh, i see

Andrew Li

I feel like necroing a post has something to do with it

but Elementary already does

Saiid

lol

Hats Stack Exchange

04:03

1

Q: Discouraging "soul-selling" for hats

Winter Bash 2016 has started, and is in full swing. I love hats as much as the other person, but can't help notice some "soul-selling" for them (which I am also guilty for). By "soul-selling" I mean things such as votes not based on content ("This is Fine" for example, and for badges and thus, ha...

discussion winterbash-2016

Volatility

During all of WB, I reviewed 10 edits on posts at least 3 years old

Andrew Li

Ok

Volatility

(That may or may not be it; just an observation)

Andrew Li

My theory (may have been disproven) was reviewing an edit on an old post

Volatility

It's definitely not just one, otherwise I would have gotten it before I did

MasterBob

04:05

adding that to the tests

Andrew Li

Why do only confirmed hats have pictures on the doc

Volatility

Oh wait, hang on a tick...

ATaco

My Hat based Soul Selling terminology is canon

Volatility

I apparently I didn't review anything between Dec 19 '13 and yesterday

Andrew Li

@ATaco Indeed. I liked it :D

@Volatility What does that mean? :P

Volatility

04:09

Well, that might explain some of the old posts :P

MasterBob

@AndrewLi that means 2 years of no reviewing

Volatility

That leaves me with 7

not such a round number

Alexander O'Mara

Eastern hemisphere must have woken up, people are posting again.

Saiid

How do you underline in markdown?

Andrew Li

What the....

Rob

04:12

@Saiid Isn't it __ text __ ?

Volatility

Don't think anchor links work in chat

Saiid

@Rob no, that's the same as **text**

Alexander O'Mara

I don't think you can.

Saiid

hmm...

JamesENL

What the hell can I tag this question?

Saiid

04:14

test?

@JamesENL What question?

JamesENL

My puzzling question about They Live

Saiid

oh

what about in html?

Volatility

There's an "unsolved-mysteries" tag :P

JamesENL

I just found it

Imma use that

Rob

@Saiid In markdown, or you mean on stack overflow?

Markdown uses double underline

JamesENL

04:15

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Q: We've gone hat-mad and can't solve the riddle of They Live

For those that haven't heard we are in the middle of Winter Bash 2016 and everyone's gone hat mad! Now there is a group trying to work out the trigger conditions for each secret hat. We are currently looking at the hat called They Live. What we know: It has something to do with reviewing sugge...

unsolved-mysteries

Rob

support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/… .

Andrew Li

On Puzzling?

Is that even on topic?

Volatility

We've had real-life puzzles before, not closed

Andrew Li

ok

JamesENL

I hope it doesn't get downvoted to hell

Samuel Liew

04:18

@bluefeet I had hoped for users to provide at least a decent answer in the process, but it didn't turn out well. I do realize this and have already stopped. The quality of answers on SO is important to me too, and hats do not come anywhere close to justifying such behavior.

Volatility

If I make it +4 years, I get exactly 5 for all of WB

Andrew Li

@SamuelLiew meta.stackexchange.com/q/288493/332767

ATaco

I tried selling my soul for hats and all I got to show for it was this stupid nothing

2

Also please give me TacoHat

Volatility

@JamesENL I just counted mine (for science, even if I don't think it's the right direction), and I get 7 Approves, 4 Edits, 7 Rejects, and 1 Reject and Edit, for 19/20 reviews before I got the hat.

JamesENL

Thanks

Saiid

04:30

@ATaco nice

Anyone seen my answer to that meta question above? (not about They Live)

Alexander O'Mara

Just got the 6 hat on SO.

I don't know why.

Only thing I did in time frame is answer and edit that question (adding a tag).

Andrew Li

@AlexanderO'Mara Congrats

You are on a roll!

Volatility

Found this user with They Live and only 20 reviews during WB (all on one day, I think), and 0 Reject and Edits

5 reviews of edits for posts 3+ years old

Saiid

0 reject and edits, alright

MasterBob

saiid stop

its a possibility

Saiid

04:45

.-.

MasterBob

theres an anonymous nyan cat XD

Saiid

They very clearly have no reject and edits

MasterBob

try it without the reject & edit

then, only then, do you strikethrough

Volatility

We can falsify the hypothesis that it's based on review patterns if we can find two users with the exact same pattern

nitsua60

@AndrewLi I got 180 without a hammer--should I add that to the GDoc?

(Not sure what "Hammer?" at the end of that line indicates.)

Andrew Li

04:54

@nitsua60 You never needed a hammer

Who told you that? :P

nitsua60

Nobody. The bold line recently mentioned hammers inline, then had "Hammer?" at the end.

Andrew Li

Edited

nitsua60

The way it's written now looks right to me.

Saiid

Can someone that's better than me at Docs edit that table in the They Live section? I messed it up somehow when I was trying to add another cell

TAsk

They Live 2nd possibility(3,2,4,1) didn't work for me.

Did anybody face the same ?

Volatility

04:58

Ok, well that seems like pretty good proof that it's not based on review patterns to me

TAsk

My Review history : stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/history?userId=1997093

Andrew Li

Huh

I got a nice question badge on Meta.SE, and I asked it via the app. No hat

Saiid

hmm

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