@Mew And by "America", you mean white, straight America. And by "non-Americans" you mean gay people, trans people, Muslims, black people, the disabled, and the mentally ill.
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And specifically in this case, this is an instance of the majority superseding the minority, which is rarely a good thing. That's why America is actually a republic. (Well, technically, it's basically a democratic republic.)
> Trump's VP supports rounding up LGBT people and torturing them until they're straight and they just got elected on that. If a candidate ran on a campaign of "I will torture you to death for something that isn't a crime" and the country voted them in, you'd be terrified too. The people in power want to do despicable things to you because of their own prejudice and enough people agree with it to give them the power to make it happen. This is absolutely Trump's fault
@TRiG Actually, Trump said that women will generally let you if you're rich and powerful and famous. Crass and misogynistic in the extreme, but he never talked about doing anything to women *without their consent*. That was all either implied or stated as fact by most of the coverage.
I'm quite willing to believe that he's groped women who didn't want him to. I'm also inclined to believe that he thought they did. Behaviour worth stopping and campaigning against. But probably not a rapist.
I've seen users remark that it is not a violation of the Be Nice policy to insult people who are not SE users -- i.e. that users are only required to "be nice" to other SE users. Usually this is stated in order to excuse insults made toward public figures (like politicians). Is that true? Does th...
Can we please, despite our alignments and personal politics, stay respectful and not call each other names? I know that Stack Exchange is better then that, we can discuss this like adults, so lets do it.
(that doesn't mean you can't discuss the people, or the politics, or the anything - this isn't censorship. This is making sure that that discussion stays respectful to as many people as possible)
Has there been much actual rioting? I saw some protesting and students at university being generally unhappy about life, a trash can set on fire, does that count?
@PaulWhite That's pretty much what I've seen, but I haven't been following closely. It's a riot to those who want to call it that, and a protest to others.
IMO, riot implies more of a complete loss of control. Violence, looting, arson, assault etc. You generally haven't seen that. Anger, some broken windows, probably a lot of fights, quite a few arrests, but I'd so far describe it as protests rather than riots.
I say old chap, I do think that you perhaps should reconsider just what it is you're doing. Seems like not the most civil thing to be doing, what what?
@Magisch the British have long ago developed the art of being able to tell someone to go to blazes in such a way as to make them look forward to the trip.
Our federal government in America was designed with protections in place in case we elected unsuitable candidates to office. Given that this election made that inevitable, I am grateful to the architects of our republic.
What I find most distasteful about the anti-Trump people is that they are so over the top that they put me in the uncomfortable position of having to defend them.
the republican congress, is not fully onboard with trump, so if he makes some sweeping executive order its not unreasonable for the rupublicans and dems to over turn the order.
@RichardU Except they do? You can be cold and logical about it, but dismissing a wide group of people's feelings is exactly what Trump's supporters were complaining about as well. The whole "forgotten man" thing.
but in buisness you know to hire people to make up for were you lack, so hopfuly he gets himself a nice cabinet and not cronies, and his rhetoric says he doesnt like cronism so well see
clinton would have been mired down even more then trump, because the republicans would try to impeach her for the email stuff, even if it wont stick onher they would drag that out and ruin half of her first term
@RichardU I read something recently about vote trading being legal in some states. Makes one wonder that there aren't wider issues if such things become necessary.
@PaulWhite The 2 parties in power *like* first past the post. It makes 3rd parties incredibly difficult. For instance, UKIP got 12.6% of the votes in the last general election, and only 1 of 650 MPs. The only reason we ever got a referendum was because the conservatives needed to form a coalition, for the first time in a century, and the lib dems demanded voting reform as a condition.
another problem with our representative system is that there are so many that are in so long that they begin to collude and it's not even about party any more, it's about lining their own pockets.
I've always wondered how people hold the following ideas in their head at the same time: 1) Corporations and people collectively give $2 Billion a year to political campaigns 2) But our country is democratic and mostly not corrupt
im not saying there are not issue. and I did think for a while term limits were one, but after some research i realized that is just a back burner thing.
@RichardU No, but it can be limited. I have many problems with the politicians in my country, but one of the few things I like are the strict limits on money and campaigning. You can only campaign for up to 6 weeks before the election. No paid TV adverts. No paid radio adverts. A limit of £15,000 per candidate. No spending by third parties.
@ArtOfCode interesting thing, back to rude/polite. I've found that those of us on the East Coast of the USA tend to come across as rude without intending to do so.
@Magisch My graphjc when animated is someone smashing their head on the keyboard
My only experience of the eastern side of the US has been Boston and Charlotte. Without exception, I found everyone I met friendly. Oh hang on, except for one taxi driver, but hey.
