ok, so if we really take the instructions for 4 as a sliding puzzle, we get the following final distribution:
4 8 6 12 1 5 2 0 9 10 11 7
7 is rotated 270º clockwise
I tried doing it with the picture in beastly gerbil's answer, notably this one
then if we draw lines between A semicircle, B triangle, C square, D hexagon and between unfilled triangle / filled triangle, then rotate stuff around, we get
the asterisk and square are next to each other, as they should ( :) ), but the lines are kinda everywhere ( :( ), so maybe I drew them in the wrong places?
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2:39 AM
@Alconja In the first instruction, where the RS XX are eliminated, the slanting of the images of the cube is very awkward - it looks like they are standing up rather lying on the tip of a cube. Is it intentional ?
@ArbitraryKangaroo - it is intentional. Instructions tend to simplify things, so it is just using using individual shapes as representative identifiers for those sides.
@ffao why'd you go ABCD? ...Also my previous comment to AKangaroo might help clarify one other thing for you too...
@ArbitraryKangaroo yes, I deliberately just drew all the icons flat to make it clear that they were just indicating sides, rather than being actual perspective representation of the true sides. Make sense?
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5:03 AM
@Alconja No.
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@ffao Your sliding may be right, if you not move what you rotate, but we are interpretating 3 wrongly, and ABCD wrongly, thanks to ESHT
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I don't understand "to make it clear that they were just indicating sides, rather than being actual perspective representation of the true sides."
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I don't understand why only the zigzag is flipped before sliding. If you notice the positioning of the name, then shouldn't everything be flipped, not just that.
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(The last message is obviously not for Alconja, but the penultimate one is)
@ArbitraryKangaroo e.g. top square of rs-01 is a diamond, but the piece with the actual diamond on it has the diamond smaller and off center, with extra dots/letters. Same square, just a simplified representation in the step 1 cube view...
Has everyone noted on the fact that the grey and black squares seem to have some form of starting point in step two? Although admittedly, I don't see a black square
@ArbitraryKangaroo Nope. It was just the "good bye" in Norwegian. I'm as puzzled about the puzzle as you all. And love it.
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3:05 PM
@BmyGuest It is good by detonation, and IAmInPLS's comment is a straight forward derivation of that. You have any ideas?
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* detonation is definition
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Repeating: I still don't understand why only the zigzag is flipped before sliding. If you notice the positioning of the name, then shouldn't everything be flipped, not just that.
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@Xylius That idea is thought a long long time ago. Do you have any new insight ?
I didn't follow this chat - just came here now - so I might have missed A LOT. My own thinking so far concerns the step 1. I'm still wondering WHY we want to identify the dice. What do we gain from it? As far as I see, the only thing "gained" is to find out which of the dice is the "grey" and which the "black" one - using the logic Graaaarg was using in his derermination. Is there another consensus on this in this chat?
Also, I do believe the "sliding" to be the correct step, and I think beastly gerbil's starting position is correct. The tile which gets "overlaid" is the one with the black dot and only one of two tiles with no "grey dots" in it.
The intial hint on top is that we need "small pencils" not big ones. That's another clue for me that the big black dot (tile) is the odd-one-out before the sliding.
I need to go now, but will return later...
I have not a single clue about the right part of Step 3. As for the left part: is it "draw the line betwwan A & D" or is it "draw HALF the line between A & D" ? I'm not certain about it yet, but tend to the simpler "draw the line" solution...
@ffao How exactly did you do the sliding? I've tried it with Beeastly's starting position, but am not sure about the 4th symbol and run into issues with the 7th instruction... See:
Also, more evidence for the starting position and my "twist only that tile" theory: the dot is aligned perfectly with the dot in the middle of the background squares. This, combined with the lack of gray dots on that tile, implies that the dot tile isn't the same type of object as the others - it's some sort of pivot for the other tiles that land on it.
@Deusovi Yes, and my additional arguement: Only tile with a LARGE dot and first instruction wants SMALL pencils.
Need to go for some minutes. Coming back soon.
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5:40 PM
@Deusovi Nobody is replying to my question. Why only the zigzag is flipped ? If you speak of orientation, then black top cube rule is probably violated, if I didn't make any mistake.
Just to say that I came to the same conclusion regarding the position of the initial missing tile. Wil have to catch up on how you managed to make that the white one with the dot though.
@graaaarg It's the "odd one out" in several ways, and it allows a placement so that the lock fits, the empty square is in the right space, and the pivot move happens on top of it. (Notice the background.)
@ArbitraryKangaroo I think that's just saying that you need to place them in the grid.
It means that perspective doesn't matter - "filled triangle" indicates "face with filled triangle", not "face with filled triangle oriented so triangle points upwards".
@Deusovi ...but we DO need to cut the net anyway, because otherwise we can't slide :c) Which makes me wonder: How "postive" are we about the sliding and placing the net? It seems right to me, but the alternative would be placing the dice and "rolling" them along... Anywone tried that? ( From an "IKErA"-viewpoint: Why pack CUBES if the whole thing is only 2d ? But maybe it is too much to ask for any logic concerning IKErA...)
6 could also be interepted as: connect all dots from start to end. 7 = Fill inside *. 8 = Outine figure, then: Watch form behind (point-inverse) and finally: take you're 3rd solution :c)
Just looking on the picture, I wonder if we will end up with one of the geometric patterns a lot of people have as their default-logo here on site... That would give a word...