REJBAS

2:01 AM

ok, so if we really take the instructions for 4 as a sliding puzzle, we get the following final distribution:

4 8 6 12
1 5 2 0
9 10 11 7

7 is rotated 270º clockwise

I tried doing it with the picture in beastly gerbil's answer, notably this one

then if we draw lines between A semicircle, B triangle, C square, D hexagon and between unfilled triangle / filled triangle, then rotate stuff around, we get

the asterisk and square are next to each other, as they should ( :) ), but the lines are kinda everywhere ( :( ), so maybe I drew them in the wrong places?

user189275

2:39 AM

@Alconja In the first instruction, where the RS XX are eliminated, the slanting of the images of the cube is very awkward - it looks like they are standing up rather lying on the tip of a cube. Is it intentional ?

Alconja

3:28 AM

@ArbitraryKangaroo - it is intentional. Instructions tend to simplify things, so it is just using using individual shapes as representative identifiers for those sides.

@ffao why'd you go ABCD? ...Also my previous comment to AKangaroo might help clarify one other thing for you too...

ffao

4:02 AM

I'd feel bad connecting an A to a D :P

I guess you used them as a coordinate system of sorts, then, and I should just take it at face value

but I don't have time now to do more image editing

user189275

4:56 AM

@Alconja I didn't mean that. The images on the top of the cube look like they are standing up, not lying down.

user189275

@ffao Are you sure you did it right ? If you both rotate and move in 4-4, then you must remove gray, not the dot.

ffao

god, I nearly had a heart attack from the ping sound

I just removed what was overlapping in BG's answer

not much thought to it

Alconja

Simple instructions. Not much thought needed. :)

3

ffao

as someone who had to follow one of these some times, I can say it's never simple :P

Alconja

@ArbitraryKangaroo yes, I deliberately just drew all the icons flat to make it clear that they were just indicating sides, rather than being actual perspective representation of the true sides. Make sense?

user189275

5:03 AM

@Alconja No.

user189275

@ffao Your sliding may be right, if you not move what you rotate, but we are interpretating 3 wrongly, and ABCD wrongly, thanks to ESHT

user189275

I don't understand "to make it clear that they were just indicating sides, rather than being actual perspective representation of the true sides."

user189275

I don't understand why only the zigzag is flipped before sliding. If you notice the positioning of the name, then shouldn't everything be flipped, not just that.

user189275

?

user189275

(The last message is obviously not for Alconja, but the penultimate one is)

Alconja

5:42 AM

@ArbitraryKangaroo e.g. top square of rs-01 is a diamond, but the piece with the actual diamond on it has the diamond smaller and off center, with extra dots/letters. Same square, just a simplified representation in the step 1 cube view...

user189275

8:34 AM

@Alconja: When are you adding any hints ?

user189275

@Alconja Is it really that true ?

Alconja

9:12 AM

@ArbitraryKangaroo seems like people are still chipping away, but if there's no movement by tomorrow, I'll add one.

Xylius

11:46 AM

Has everyone noted on the fact that the grey and black squares seem to have some form of starting point in step two? Although admittedly, I don't see a black square

BmyGuest

2:46 PM

@ArbitraryKangaroo Nope. It was just the "good bye" in Norwegian. I'm as puzzled about the puzzle as you all. And love it.

user189275

3:05 PM

@BmyGuest It is good by detonation, and IAmInPLS's comment is a straight forward derivation of that. You have any ideas?

user189275

* detonation is definition

user189275

Repeating:
I still don't understand why only the zigzag is flipped before sliding. If you notice the positioning of the name, then shouldn't everything be flipped, not just that.

user189275

@Xylius That idea is thought a long long time ago. Do you have any new insight ?

BmyGuest

I didn't follow this chat - just came here now - so I might have missed A LOT. My own thinking so far concerns the step 1. I'm still wondering WHY we want to identify the dice. What do we gain from it? As far as I see, the only thing "gained" is to find out which of the dice is the "grey" and which the "black" one - using the logic Graaaarg was using in his derermination. Is there another consensus on this in this chat?

ffao

Identifying the dice helped us identify where to place the 6-piece

Based on where the top face went in the next picture

BmyGuest

3:18 PM

Also, I do believe the "sliding" to be the correct step, and I think beastly gerbil's starting position is correct. The tile which gets "overlaid" is the one with the black dot and only one of two tiles with no "grey dots" in it.

Beastly Gerbil

Interesting thoughts

ffao

The fact that the asterisk and square end up side to side is good too

But we need to fix the lines now

And I didn't follow up on one of the hints I was given

Beastly Gerbil

Which was?

BmyGuest

The intial hint on top is that we need "small pencils" not big ones. That's another clue for me that the big black dot (tile) is the odd-one-out before the sliding.

I need to go now, but will return later...

I have not a single clue about the right part of Step 3. As for the left part: is it "draw the line betwwan A & D" or is it "draw HALF the line between A & D" ? I'm not certain about it yet, but tend to the simpler "draw the line" solution...

ffao

Ah, nvm, he was just referring to the coordinate system

So someone should draw lines between A & D and white/black triangle then do the rotation thingy

Beastly Gerbil

3:26 PM

See me answer for Deusovi's thoughts on step 3

They sound pretty solid

ffao

Alconja saying that we need to keep it simple and only draw AD sounds more solid to me

Considering he made the puzzle and all

Beastly Gerbil

Well he'll know how to solve it best :P

BmyGuest

4:52 PM

Maybe a little late, but for convenience sake I've placed a PowerPoint presentation online which contains the tiles split for easier playings... dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54036297/Rejb%C3%A4s.pptx

Beastly Gerbil

@BmyGuest, thanks a lot

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