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Dennis

00:03

@StephenLeppik How do I compile Pixiedust?

ThePlasmaRailgun

00:23

Hey everyone, I don't know what might be causing it, but I think Ohm v2 on tio.run is bugging out

It's returning floats in scientific notation when I don't think it should be

tio.run/##y8/INfr///C0R437Dq/R@v/fwNDAAIgB

Dennis

That's probably not something I can do anything about.

Maybe report it on github.com/nickbclifford/Ohm?

ThePlasmaRailgun

Okay, done

Stephen Leppik

@Dennis What should it compile into?

Dennis

01:28

@StephenLeppik Whatever I can use. (I don't know a lot about Java.)

Stephen Leppik

02:04

@Dennis can you use Python?

Dennis

@StephenLeppik Python? Doesn't Java usually compile to class files?

I just need some help with the compilation command. javac <filename> seems to be missing some dependencies.

Stephen Leppik

@Dennis I was asking because someone else made their own interpreter in Python.

Dennis

@StephenLeppik Ah, OK. I'll use the one you want me to.

Python is probably easier for me, but I wouldn't mind learning how to compile your Java project.

Stephen Leppik

02:26

So is javac installed?

Dennis

Yes, lots of TIO languages use Java.

This is the error I'm getting.

./Pixiedust Interpreter/src/net/sleppik/pixiedust/PixiedustInterpreter.java:134: error: no suitable method found for put(String)
                                        labels.put(code[i].substring(2));
                                              ^
    method Map.put(String,Integer) is not applicable
      (actual and formal argument lists differ in length)
    method AbstractMap.put(String,Integer) is not applicable
      (actual and formal argument lists differ in length)
    method HashMap.put(String,Integer) is not applicable

Stephen Leppik

02:41

@Dennis my fault, should be fixed now.

Dennis

@StephenLeppik Alright, now it generates a bunch of class files. Next question: how do I run it? I tried java -classpath '/opt/pixiedust/Pixiedust Interpreter/src/net/sleppik/pixiedust' PixiedustInterpreter, but that says Error: Could not find or load main class PixiedustInterpreter.

Stephen Leppik

What does ls show for that directory?

Dennis

$ ls '/opt/pixiedust/Pixiedust Interpreter/src/net/sleppik/pixiedust'
'PixiedustInterpreter$PixiedustError.class'         PixiedustInterpreter.class
'PixiedustInterpreter$PixiedustSyntaxError.class'   PixiedustInterpreter.java

Stephen Leppik

Really weird, but I have to go to bed now.

Dennis

02:59

Figured it out: java -classpath '/opt/pixiedust/Pixiedust Interpreter/src' net.sleppik.pixiedust.PixiedustInterpreter works.

@StephenLeppik tio.run/#pixiedust

@Pavel dnf update seems to break visual-basic-net-vbc.

/usr/lib/mono/msbuild/15.0/bin/Roslyn/Microsoft.VisualBasic.Core.targets(73,5): error MSB6004: The specified task executable location "/opt/cs-csc/vbc.exe" is invalid. [/home/runner/TIO-VB.vbproj]

There is no vbc.exe in /opt/cs-csc, neither before nor after the update.

Ah, I bet it uses vbc by default now, so we'd need a workaround for vbnc.

That's probably not worth the hassle. Time to get rid of the legacy Mono stuff, I guess.

1 hour later…

Pavel

04:18

@Dennis I fully approve of this getting rid of legacy Mono stuff

10 hours later…

Dennis

14:39

@Pavel How can I tell if I'm using vbnc or vbc?

In case you know.

Pavel

14:52

@Dennis The even ancient-er compiler, mbas, used to define the __MonoCS__ preprocessor symbol. but the only difference between vbnc and vbc are some more complicated features that I have no clue how to use.

> The compiler is mostly feature-complete (compared to Visual Basic 8 (Visual Studio 2005)), with the following exceptions:
> The support for Option Explicit Off is not implemented (no plans for this for the moment)
> XML comments (no plans for this for the moment)

Not sure if docs haven't been updated since 2005, or compiler hasn't been updated since 2005.

Dennis

How do I use __MonoCS__ in VB?

Conor O'Brien

@Dennis can you pull TIdy?

Dennis

@ConorO'Brien Done.

ngn

@Dennis can i have another ngn/k update please?

Pavel

@Dennis # IF __MonoCS__ / # End If, but it doesn't work anymore.

Dennis

15:01

@ngn Done.

@Pavel Ah, well. I'm resonably certain the updated version uses vbc.

Conor O'Brien

@Dennis thanks!

ngn

@Dennis another thanks! :)

Dennis

@Pavel Even the C# shell? Afaict, it's not quite compatible with csi.

Pavel

@Dennis Mm, that actually does do things differently from csi

And is significantly golfier

Dennis

OK, it stays. Here's to hoping they don't break/remove it in future versions.

Pavel

15:06

Yeah.

I figured out how to determine compiler version for msbuild-based C++ projects but they disabled the feature for C# and Visual Basic ._.

Dennis

With the exception of evil features, I don't think I'll ever get feature removal.

According to the first table on List of countries by Internet connection speeds, my country has the slowest internet of the entire world.

Awesome.

My determination to compress responses and requests seems less justified now.

Pavel

/me occasionally sends requests that only fall below the limit because of compression

Dennis

lol

I don't even know anymore what the limit is.

Pavel

15:21

I hear it's a megabyte

That's what you said earlier

Dennis

After raising it the last time, it ceased to be a practical concern for me.

head -c 1MB > $request
(( $(head -c 1 | wc -c) == 0 )) || error 413

One million bytes.

I could always raise it for the backend.

In-browser gzip compression of a large enough request might be notably slower than sending it over an average internet connection. I should benchmark this.

Pavel

@Dennis I was in Peru last spring, and I recall downloading episodes of my favorite show over night since the connection couldn't handle 720p streaming. According to the chart, Peru has 6 times faster internet on average then Paraguay, so... that must be awful...

Dennis

Well, average speed doesn't mean squat for the individual. I have a 6 Mbps DSL connection now.

If it wasn't the occasional downtime (which improved since they changed my cable) and latency (which also improved, but not by much), that would work for me.

Pavel

According to Comcast I get 100 Mbps but according to Netflix I get around 15.

Dennis

15:37

Netflix is special in many aspects.

Out of curiosity, what ping response times do you get from tio.run?

Pavel

Around 64 ms

Dennis

470 ms on average here. :/

180 ms if I stop all other network traffic.

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