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Dennis

00:20

@Downgoat Fyi, the new backend URL is tio.run/cgi-bin/run. The old backend.tryitonline.net/run will cease to exit soon.

Downgoat

01:04

ah ok, thanks, updated

Dennis

The same applies for languages.js.

Oh, and donate should be tio.run/nexus/#community.

Downgoat

ah ok, fixed

Dennis

Thanks!

Conor O'Brien

01:43

@Dennis could you pull Stacked please?

Dennis

Done.

Conor O'Brien

whoops, forgot to add something to the commit, sorry. please pull again?

Dennis

Done again.

Conor O'Brien

thanks!

Andrew Savinykh

@Dennis Oh, I need to update the test runner

@Dennis Are you going to do away with the entire domain?

Dennis

01:48

Yes, that's the plan.

Andrew Savinykh

@Dennis needs to be removed from the setup repo too then, when it happened. Including the readme

I can do this, when you give me a sign ;)

Dennis

OK, will do. :)

Dennis

02:47

@WheatWizard Maybe it'll get more users once it's on TIO... I'll happily add it if you want to.

Wheat Wizard

@Dennis Ok, I said I would ask you to add it when someone else used it, and well, it looks like that requirement has just been fulfilled

Dennis

@WheatWizard Do you happen to have a Hello World program?

Wheat Wizard

@Dennis Not at the moment. Do you want me to make one?

Dennis

If it's not too much trouble. We use those for automated tests.

Wheat Wizard

What type of punctuation?

Dennis

02:52

Hello, World! if possible.

Wheat Wizard

Ok first I have to see if I ever implemented ASCII mode

Dennis

← 8 messages moved from The Nineteenth Byte

Hope you don't mind me moving this here. Easier to keep track of things.

Wheat Wizard

@Dennis No problem. I have a solution but it is quite long and I could certainly golf it down. You don't care about length for these things right?

Dennis

Not at all.

Wheat Wizard

Gist

Dennis

03:03

It working. :) Give me a sec to deploy.

@WheatWizard tio.run/nexus/…

Wheat Wizard

@Dennis Cool! Thanks

Dennis

That's pretty short permalink when compared to the code.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure how any of this is related to my web service.

Wheat Wizard

@Dennis You just put the input as command line arguments. Link

Dennis

03:19

@WheatWizard Yes, I figured out that this works. Mistah said Ah, command line arguments and you replied It does not do that for my local copy, so I assumed STDIN should work as well.

Wheat Wizard

Ok I see, I was not responding to that particular statement

Wheat Wizard

03:32

@Dennis I just added the ability to read input from a file with the -f command. Its a little bare bones right now but if it helps feel free to pull.

Dennis

@WheatWizard I try to stay as close as possible to the original interpreter, so I'd rather not if it's possible to get input from the args. If you want to read input from a file, you can always add -f .input.tio as command-line arguments.

Mistah Figgins

tio.run/nexus/wise#@29lZxP3/7/pf900Bb3MvILSEr2SzHwA

Did I do something wrong? or is it just too soon

Dennis

tio.run/nexus/wise#@29lZxP3/7/pf900vcy8gtISvZLMfAA and tio.run/nexus/wise#@29lZxP3/7/pf920/3qZeQWlJXolmfkA work, but the way you entered it, the filename begins with a space.

Mistah Figgins

ah, gotcha

Now the real question: does this add to my byte count...?

Dennis

Yes, which is why you should just take input from CLAs. ;)

Wheat Wizard

03:43

@Dennis How does Brain-Flak take input?

ATaco

I still haven't added STDIN reading for RProgN2.

Dennis

I'd have to check.

ATaco

I probably should do that.

Wheat Wizard

I think I also wrote the input for Brain-Flak and I'm pretty sure it works in a similar method

Dennis

Yes, you're right. It has been that way since v1.

Wheat Wizard

03:46

Now I am quite confused

Dennis

The Brain-Flak interpreter on TIO shouldn't do what it's doing. But it's too late to change it now.

Wheat Wizard

Ok got it

Dennis

I probably tried with STDIN, skimmed over the code to find an input method, and picked the first one I saw. My bad.

Wheat Wizard

Oh by the way, amusingly but ultimately irrelevantly, I did write a hello world before today, I just forgot about it.

Dennis

And that one's a teensy bit shorter. ;)

Mistah Figgins

03:53

indeed

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Григорий Перельман

06:57

@Dennis can you add Visual Prolog and Ceylon?

2 hours later…

Andrew Savinykh

08:33

@ГригорийПерельман This one? infoworld.com/article/2624027/java/…

Visual Prolog

"The use of the Personal Edition is restricted to learning the Visual Prolog on a private basis or for teaching Prolog on Universities and other educational establishments. All other uses require that you obtain a license to the Visual Prolog Commercial Edition.

You are permitted to:

use the Personal Edition at home for learning Visual Prolog.
use the Personal Edition at educational institutions for teaching and learning Visual Prolog.
make as many copies of the Visual Prolog Personal Edition as you wish; give unmodified copies of the Visual Prolog Personal Edition installation program to…

Installing it on a site that provides a service is not listed in acceptable use

While it's certainly not commercial, it is not educational (for TIO itself, not for its users) either

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Adám

10:36

@AndrewSavinykh What prevents you from asking for a free license (just as with Dyalog)? TIO would promote Visual Prolog without allowing commercial use.

5 hours later…

Григорий Перельман

16:02

@AndrewSavinykh Yes

Sorry, I didn't notice the license for Visual Prolog.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Adám

6 hours ago, by Adám

@AndrewSavinykh What prevents you from asking for a free license (just as with Dyalog)? TIO would promote Visual Prolog without allowing commercial use.

Григорий Перельман

17:09

@Adám Yeah, but people actually use Dyalog on TIO. I don't think enough people would use Visual Prolog for it to be worth going through all the hassle of getting a license.

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Okx

18:22

Is there a TIO API?

Okx

19:00

@Dennis Also, can you pull fireball?

Andrew Savinykh

@Okx Yes and no. A REST api is planned but you can call tio.run/cgi-bin/run even today. There is not documentation at this point (again, planned), you'll have to look at the source code and ask question here until you figure out how it works. There was a conversation on this topic earier in this chat that gives some details, I'll try to find it for you

@Okx A couple of messages down from here: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/36046071#36046071

2 hours later…

Andrew Savinykh

21:04

@Okx, below are some links to look at:

This is how request is fromed in javascript:
https://github.com/TryItOnline/main-server/blob/master/tio.run/index.html#L892

This is how it's formed in c#
https://github.com/TryItOnline/TioTests/blob/master/src/TestRunner.cs#L105

This is how it's formed in Python
https://github.com/TryItOnline/main-server/blob/master/bin/self-test

And this is how it's parsed by the server:
https://github.com/TryItOnline/arena-server/blob/master/bin/run-sandbox

Okx

when you are using java...

Andrew Savinykh

I know that it is not exactly very easy to understand at present, sorry about that.

@Okx not in the cards right now ;)

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Dennis

23:41

@Okx Done.

Sorry for the delay.

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