I feel betrayed by him for his lack of reading before flagging, though.
And so the aforementioned deadness remains.
That Mike decided to kick me while I was down only reaffirms my feelings for him.
And that Catija decided to call her "do you think that's right?" comment a warning while ignoring the whole discussion up to that point puts her right on that list with them.
Your messages could only have been considered OK if one not only considered them in context, but also happened to know steeler and that she wouldn't be offended.
@Randal'Thor Yeah, terrible. So why was my flag verified by people who should have known better, and why only mine when we had a 4 man discussion on it?
You said "Ok, then, you're a MILF." and "Your mother is a mature woman and I would love to take her in a manly fashion." That looks terrible. Sexual comments towards other users are one of the things offensive flags are for.
Why do I have to be the bigger person when the guy who validates it is 10 years older, a far more respected member / arse-kisser, and a room owner because his judgment is sound?
@Randal'Thor That first one is worse than "I'm not sure if you're a milf. The m stands for mother" (paraphrase)?
@Randal'Thor Go to the chat where my deleted comments are. Look at the discussion preceding it. I don't want anyone flagged. I want people to be adults.
@Axelrod Sure, I don't want to see any flags in Mos. What the flagger should have done was pretty much what Catija did - raise their concern about the inappropriateness of the conversation. Then a mod or RO could have got rid of the offending posts.
But what you said did look pretty offensive (even if steeler herself wasn't offended), and your response to Catija suggested you weren't going to apologise and drop it, so I can see why whoever-it-was flagged.
@Randal'Thor Because we have inappropriate conversations all the time. Again, we are expected to act like adults.
It seems like saying what it was made it easier to misinterpret, but there's still the "the first flagger was the one who should have known what we were talking about" issue.
If you're going by a "they don't know context" point of view, sure.
But again, the first person knew.
So unless it was Catija, I reiterate my feelings regarding the system in place. If it was her, then I defer to previous comments involving horses that people rode in on.
Because I expect people to read before they do things.
@Randal'Thor I understood that it was a bad discussion, but in context I don't see how it was a bad statement.
Nor will I see it anytime soon. I refuse to see it because my judgment is clouded with anger. Because that's what happens when people who didn't read a damn word judge you, sentence you, and put you in suspension.
The kicking after the fact was just icing on the cake.
@Axelrod The only context that could mitigate it was the combination of this message from steeler, this message from Himarm, and the knowledge of who this message was referring to.
Unless someone happened to be following that particular thread of conversation very closely, they might not even have seen all those posts, widely spaced out as they were with loads of other crap in between.
@Axelrod OK, well, maybe we can come back to this when you've calmed down and lost some of that anger :-)
@Axelrod You made an inappropriate sexual remark towards another user. Surely you're the person who needs to regain respect, not the mod and RO who tried to do their duty by keeping things clean?
Or hell, maybe it'd just be used to say "even though he didn't break the rules, we're going to use this to essentially suspend him for years".
@Randal'Thor Signing onto a flag when you didn't read the context isn't doing that duty.
Reading, judging, and then signing would be.
My only crime is continuing a discussion and not considering that other people were around. Except I did, thus why I sugared it to not be as offensive.
@Randal'Thor I can't think from the viewpoint of someone who would be there but not be in on our local nicknames and such.
And that's the only point from which I could see it being offensive. To literally take it as an attack, which it was not.
While simultaneously being in there the whole discussion.
For the sixth time, I'm done with the discussion. Unless your goal is to make me leave Mos in full, I just want to stop talking about it all.
(I say this because I know that's not your goal).
But I really am not highly attached anymore. This whole ordeal has brought back unpleasantness from earlier things. I just want to talk about SFF and random stuff, but now I can't even talk about random stuff.
@Axelrod My goal is to make you understand why your message was seen as inappropriate - not so you can grovel or anything, just so we're all on the same page and no grudges are being held. But OK, let's drop it then :-)
@Randal'Thor Beats all the non-trolls getting banned. We still have a flag vote system. And it's there for when the statements are honestly just terrible.
Anyway, if you want something to take away from all this: please don't feel you can't talk about random off-topic stuff in Mos any more, but please do refrain from making inappropriate remarks about other users.
