For a lack of knowledge over where to ask this critically important question, I'm going to post it here. (...And since the TeX guys generally have a sense of humor.)
If an Italian wants to emphasise something he says, does he speak it in Italics or still in Italian? Or could it be called Italia...
@PeterGrill One more question: I've set font=\sffamily and that makes the xtick labels and other text sans, but not the numeric ytick labels. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
And yet another crisis averted. mathspec to the rescue. This chat room is amazing.
@PeterGrill Yes, sorry I forgot to ping you. The problem is that all the numbers are rendered as math, and there's no sans math, generally. But since I'm using XeLaTeX, I can use the mathspec package to use the regular sans font for the math digits, and now everything works.
@NicolaTalbot but I only have ONE control sequence, \LaTeX , the word next to it is plain text. Please see screen shot
So you are saying I need to force space after \LaTeX all the time?
Will try the xspace package in the link you have given and see if it helps. thanks
@NicolaTalbot it worked ! I used \xspace now it looks much better. I have to remember to add \xspace from now on after this. Will add another yellow stick-it to my monitor for this one so I do not forget.
@Nasser You're better off just putting a backslash space after the command rather than using \xspace. (It's shorter to do \LaTeX\ animate than \LaTeX\xspace animate for a start.)
@Nasser Commands such as \LaTeX that give spacing problems are quite rare. Just remember to type \LaTeX{} is or \LaTeX\ is. If it's followed by punctuation, there's no space to be left; however \LaTeX{}; will work the same as \LaTeX;.
@Rico TeXPortal for the TeX stuff and jota for the text editor, but I think I need to see if I can get a more TeX-aware editor. It takes three key presses to get a backslash with jota.
@DavidCarlisle Hopefully they've done it like the Angband port that allows the back button to be used as Esc, but it would certainly be entertaining to have a vi port that didn't have an escape key!
@NicolaTalbot it used to be popular: a LW frequency set was given, and a specified time, and people could use their radios to speak accross the world. I think that even the illegal scouts in Czechoslovakia in 70s and 80s used to participate.
@NicolaTalbot the emacs I had just said to plug in a real keyboard, I don't think they quite got the mobile idea:-), but the "hackers keyboard" (free from android play) seems to work quite well and has ctrl and esc
Thank you! However, it is much code to get a length. I was wondering, that it is so difficult to calculate this length. I took your proposed veclen and create another solution. I post it in this thread. — Dirk6 mins ago
does MikTex uses the same source code (i.e. packages, etc...) as TexLive? i.e. the same packages in CTAN? Was just wondering about this. I read this tex.stackexchange.com/questions/20036/… but still confused. I simply wanted to know from where does MikTex gets the Latex packages, is it also from CTAN? Which is I assume where TeXlive gets the packages from. Thanks,
@Nasser The main difference between TeX Live and MikTeX with respect to package choice is that TeX Live is very strict about only allowing free licensed software so if a package has any sort of non-free license or the licence is in question (including e.g. packages with no license), it will not be included in TeX Live. MikTeX has no such requirement. Functionally, the one big difference between TeXLive and MikTeX is that MikTeX has on-the-fly package downloading and TeXLive doesn't.
There are some other differences too, but these are the two big ones.
@AlanMunn other major one in some contexts is that miktex is windows only and texlive is linux and mac as well so if you need to support a mixed network and have tex be the same (can even hare formats over a shared file space) then texlive has some advantages.
The other day, an expert here said they do not use GUI to write Latex math code. I use Scientific word, which generates Latex. There is no way at all I could write the same Latex code by hand. Here is a random screen shot from one HW showing the equation on the screen, and the corresponding Latex code. I would never have been able to write this code in a million years
@Nasser but you can easily learn to write the latex markup at the bottom whereas the view at the top looks prettier but it would take months of randomly clicking around to find out how to produce it.
@DavidCarlisle, I do not know if you used SW or not, but it is really easy. Actually, I do not even use paper and pencil much any more. I manipulate equations on the screen directly. any way. I like it because it generates Latex, and then I use tex4ht to compile the latex to PDF and HTML.
I just use SW for editing. Not compiling or anything like this. I use command line to do all that.
@Nasser I have never managed to use any wysywig editor. All the ones I have tried fail the "is it emacs" test.
@Nasser SW is actually quite good (at least it was when we were in contact with them at the beginning in the early 90's) but you should not look at the tex code generated by any such application as an example of what you would have to write by hand. Generated code is almost always more verbose than you would hand write and also rather importantly it is harder to control. When egreg tells you off for over-using \left\right it is much easier to delete them if you are editing the markup
@DavidCarlisle SW have been working on version 6.0 for long time. They are doing a complete re-write but it is taking too long. I know what you mean. Hand coding will not look as scary as the above code does. But still, it would take an average person much longer time to produce the same code by hand, vs. using a GUI. It might not be as good as hand coding, but the time saved can be worth it I think. So many HW's and so little time.
So I've finally figured out why I don't really like Beamer: the markup to content ratio is much too high. So the LaTeX mantra "focus on the content" gets lost in all that markup.
@Nasser The key is to view it as a collection of smaller parts rather than looking at the entire code all in one lump. Have a look at this example which illustrates that sort of thing.
@Nasser it is clearly true that "the average" person would rather edit in that kind of system but then the average person uses Word. SW's problem is that they have to target people who want typographic output of latex but who don't want to obsess over controlling the exact markup. I'm not sure that there are so many people like that. You clearly, and that's fine but if I am going to produce a latex document I want to know where every \ is going.
@AlanMunn only if you get seduced into adding all that markup, if each frame just consists of an itemize with four \item it's not so bad:-)
@NicolaTalbot, thanks. But it is much more than just writing the equation in small parts. In the example you showed, if it was on the screen, I can using the mouse select the exponential term in one part and may be move it from the denominator to the numerator, or select another subpart and copy it somewhere else. Just like one would do on paper. It is impossible to do that looking at raw Latex code, since one does not see the big picture.
@Nasser there are many systems that allow you to synchronise the display with the markup editor (I never really used them much and don't know the current state) but going back from the typeset view to the code markup is basically covered by the synctex system.
@Nasser I can yank and paste the LaTeX code in vim. Personally I don't like using the mouse. It causes cramp, especially my index finger joint, so I'd much rather type the code. It's not impossible to see what the whole thing looks like from the code. It just depends on what you're used to. I wouldn't be able to interpret Morse code on the fly, but skilled radio operators can do it without a problem.
@AlanMunn The thing is, of course, that presentations are more about appearance: same thing for posters. That's why you find some LaTeX users don't use LaTeX for those tasks.
@MarcoDaniel Exactly. :) We can see by Command: convert -delay 10 -loop 0 -density 200 "117309.pdf" "117309.gif" that arara did its job correctly. The problem is being the execution.
may be someone can give me a hint on this. I spend many hrs on it, and cant figure it out. I edit my .tex file, and then do pdflatex foo.tex then I get this error
TeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (name{page.1}) has bee n already used, duplicate ignored <to be read again> \relax l.41 \clearpage [1] (./HW4_solution.lof [2]) [3] (./HW4_solution.lot) [4] (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/lm/t1lmtt.fd) ! Undefined control sequence. <argument> ...tring :autoref\endcsname {\@captype
Why is deleting .aux file makes the error go away?
@tohecz I wish I know how. I do not even know where the error is coming from. It says duplicate record. it is 1200 lines tex file. For now, I delete the .aux file each time before I run pdflatex.
I get the following warning
pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (nam
e{page.1}) has been already used, duplicate ignored
when compiling the following document:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\title{[Title]}
\author{N.N.}...
problem solved !! I simply moved \usepackage{hyperref} to the bottom of the packages included. Now the error went away. thank you everyone for your help.
@Nasser article is okay for a short document, but it's better to use a report-like class for a longer document. As a sketchy rule of thumb, if your table of contents is longer than three-quarters of a page, it's long enough to be a report-style. (But there are other factors as well.)
@NicolaTalbot only thing with report is that I have to use \chapter. If I just use \section, section numbers will all have 0.1, 0.2 numbers to them which do not look good. And \Chapter is too much heavy weight for most of my school reports. one day, when I write a book (once I know something well enough) I will try report or even the book class.
Can anyone think of a simple way to skip a chunk of a document without just commenting out the code. Another issue with beamer is that it's quite slow to compile, so it would be useful to have a "compile from this point onwards" or something. includeonly isn't practical, because I want to do this on a per-frame basis potentially.
@AlanMunn comment environment from comment package, just moving the \end{comment} around? Also, though perhaps not so relevant for this specific case, have you seen Andrew's solution for compiling lecture slides? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/52900/entire-course-with-beamer/…
@egreg Ok. I wasn't aware of that. So since I'm not using it, your trick works perfectly for me.
@TorbjørnT. Thanks. I had thought that comment was more about commenting out particular environments, but this will work just as well as egreg's solution.
Well, that hyperref error is coming back :( Here it is again. <bridge2.png, id=96, 476.53032pt x 228.855pt> <use bridge2.png> [1{/var/lib/tex mf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map} <./bridge2.png>] (./HW4_solution.toc)pdf TeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (name{page.1}) has bee n already used, duplicate ignored <to be read again> \relax l.40 \clearpage [1] (./HW4_solution.lof [2]) [3] (./HW4_solution.lot) [4] (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/lm/t1lmtt.fd) ./HW4_solution.tex:109: Undefined control sequence.
Here is my include file, where I include all the packages. You can see hyperref is at the end
I think I will just remove the whole line from the .tex file and be done with it.
Well, it is not working. I removed the first instance at line 109, not it blows up at the second one, line 168, same thing:
eX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (name{page.1}) has bee n already used, duplicate ignored <to be read again> \relax l.40 \clearpage [1] (./HW4_solution.lof [2]) [3] (./HW4_solution.lot) [4] (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/lm/t1lmtt.fd) <showing_added_joints.png, id=251, 677.53125pt x 425.33907pt> <use showing_added_joints.png> [5] ./HW4_solution.tex:168: Undefined control sequence.
I need to spend time on this. If I find solution, will report back.
This is amazing. I also tried the solution given here tex.stackexchange.com/questions/18924/… and now use \usepackage[pdfpagelabels]{hyperref} but I still get the error eX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (name{page.1})
I run the latex file few times by pdflatex and I still get "LaTeX Warning: There were undefined references." Is there an easy way to find where these undefined references are please?
-rwxrwxrwx 1 me me 15117 Jun 5 13:33 HW4_solution.aux -rwxrwxrwx 1 me me 1627 Jun 5 13:33 HW4_solution.out -rwxrwxrwx 1 me me 2026 Jun 5 13:33 HW4_solution.toc -rwxrwxrwx 1 me me 5202 Jun 5 13:33 HW4_solution.lof -rwxrwxrwx 1 me me 478 Jun 5 13:33 HW4_solution.lot -rwxrwxrwx 1 me me 2503354 Jun 5 13:33 HW4_solution.pdf -rwxrwxrwx 1 me me 42640 Jun 5 13:33 HW4_solution.log
all what pdflatex says "(see the transcript file for additional information)" but it does not say which file !
@DavidCarlisle. Thanks. I gave up on this. I just have to remember to delete the .aux file each time. The thing is, I have makefiles that build my tree, and in the makefile, I do not delete these files before new build. So I need to add that. Now I only delete the pdf and html files.
when I delete the .aux file before pdflatex, the error do not show up.
I run new build, by cleaning things first, (remove html and pdf files) then I run pdflatex 3 times, then run htlatex (which it also runs latex 3 times!).
No. In the current folder, I have only index.tex and HW.tex, each folder have the same setup. It is only in this folder I have this problem, since I am using lots of \ref and \label as I showed: Figure~\ref{fig:showingaddedjoint} followed by \label{fig:showingaddedjoint}
I made sure I have this last \usepackage[pdfpagelabels]{hyperref} in the package loading part
may be the problem is coming from htlatex, I do not know.
@Nasser well if you can run pdflatex 3 (or 4 times) withoiut error but a "new build" gives errors then something you do in between is changing the aux files. perhaps htlatex. It is easy enough to save the aux file after pdflatex run htlatex and see if it has changed
as I say it is worth copying the aux file to a tempory file after the pdflatex then diff it against the aux file after htlatex, probably you find it has changed which means don't do that. (pdflatex 3 times is slow if you don't need that many and might not be enough, it is better just to pdflatex as many times as needed
Acutally, the error comes from just doing `pdflatex foo.tex` without even using htlatex at all. i.e. without running the makefile. 1. touch foo.tex 2. pdflatex foo.tex ---->Error 3. rm foo.aux 4. pdflatex foo.tex --->NO error 5. touch foo.tex 6. pdflatex foo.tex ---> Error 7. rm foo.aux 8. pdflatex foo.tex ---> NO error
any way. please do not worry about it. I'll just add something in the Makefile to delete .aux file. and then it works.
I think you are right. I think .aux from htlatex is messing up pdflatex run
@Nasser oh hang on that is just normal behaviour, the references are not defined until the second run as that is the whole point of the aux file, it's not an error it is just a warning to re-run latex
@DavidCarlisle it is an error; please see TeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (name{page.1}) has bee n already used, duplicate ignored <to be read again> \relax l.40 \clearpage [1] (./HW4_solution.lof [2]) [3] (./HW4_solution.lot) [4] (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/lm/t1lmtt.fd) ! Undefined control sequence. <argument> ...tring :autoref\endcsname {\@captype }1 l.109 \item Figure~\ref{fig:showingaddedjoint} shows ?
Here are the steps: 1. run the makefile (which runs htlatex last) 2. edit the foo.tex 3. pdflatex foo.tex ----> ERROR 4. delete .aux 5. pdflatex foo.tex ---> NO ERROR
So, it is ONLY when I run htlatex followed by PDFlatex. what I wrote before was not correct. So htlatex generates something strange .aux file that confuses pdflatex.
@DavidCarlisle, I have ONE caption in the file! Will comment it out now and try %\caption{Displacements at joints S15L and S07L}
@DavidCarlisle, I commented out the \caption, and run htlatex, followed by pdflatex, and still get the same error TeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (name{page.1}) has bee
@Nasser pdflatex writes the reference to the aux file as \newlabel{fig:sample}{{1}{1}{Sample}{figure.1}{}} htlatex writes it as \newlabel{fig:sample}{{\rEfLiNK{x1-21}{\csname :autoref\endcsname{figure}1}}{\rEfLiNK{x1-21}{\csname :autoref\endcsname{figure}3}}{\rEfLiNK{x1-21}{\csname :autoref\endcsname{figure}Sample}}{figure.1}{}} which is different :-)
@Nasser with a vanilla texlive you just go tlmgr update and it updates but most linux distro versions stop that so that it fits in with the linux apt-get or yum or whatever
@DavidCarlisle, yes I know. I can't use tlmgr, using debian package. Will try to see if I can update texlive using apt-get, never tried it. But will research it and see.
I have a project with lots of large files that is not working correctly. It is to large to bugfix here, but perhaps I would know were to look If I learn the cause of some odd behavior in a simpler piece of code.
I have two files, a.tex and b.tex
b.tex gets included in a.tex but the \clearpage is...
I get the following warning
pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (nam
e{page.1}) has been already used, duplicate ignored
when compiling the following document:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\title{[Title]}
\author{N.N.}...
