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8:00 PM
so I guess we're talkin' some UNICODE character
either too modern or too old to have been endorsed by Knuth
 
@nuttyaboutnatty I'm not so sure that BibTeX understands Unicode (or, better, I'm quite sure it doesn't)
 
I don't even know what the character's name is, do you?
ok
(another reason to switch to biblatex ?)
any way around it?
((other than biblatex))
 
@nuttyaboutnatty could be Latin small letter i with macron
012B
html ī
ī
 
could well be
anything of that kind I could feed into bibtex ?
 
@nuttyaboutnatty nope
use biber
 
8:04 PM
shivers
:(
 
it's unicode safe and does much more ;)
 
(I believe you, but I'll have to wait for an "upgrade" until after this deadline ;)
 
@MarcoDaniel Do you mean putting the caption at the bottom by default or on request?
 
@bloodworks (( just for future reference: biber or bilatex, which do you root for and why? ))
 
@nuttyaboutnatty i with macron, you should be able to use {\=i}
 
8:08 PM
David comes to rescue !
 
@egreg I can imagine a bool variable: caption-above .bool:N = \l_mdxex_captionabove_bool, caption-above .initiall:n = true
 
I was about to through that idea over board
:)
 
@DavidCarlisle looks very much like an i with bar and dot
 
@bloodworks ?
 
@MarcoDaniel One has to do also a \captionsetup. Not very difficult, but some parameters must be adjusted
 
8:09 PM
@egreg: BTW: I think related to your great answer, you can also use:
\keys_define:nn {xexample}
 {
  caption  .tl_set:N = \l_mdxex_caption_tl,
  label    .tl_set:N = \l_mdxex_label_tl,
  minted   .tl_set:N = \l_mdxex_minted_tl,
  language .tl_set:N = \l_mdxex_language_tl,
  language .initial:n = latex,
 }
 
@MarcoDaniel Probably.
 
@egreg \captionsetup allows only the formatting not the position.
 
@DavidCarlisle So the following could possibly work? note = "[\emph{S{\=i}c erat scriptum}.]"
 
@DavidCarlisle
 
@bloodworks ohhhhh
 
8:12 PM
@MarcoDaniel position=top or position=bottom; this should exchange the \abovecaptionskip and \belowcaptionskip values.
 
@bloodworks sorry all the other accents work because of:
\DeclareTextComposite{\"}{T1}{i}{239}
\DeclareTextComposite{\"}{T1}{\i}{239}
but not \= so you have to use {\=\i} sorry
 
@egreg Indeed. This was my misunderstanding. I thought you mean \caption will setup the position automatic.
 
@DavidCarlisle +1
how can one keep those things in mind
i wonder
;)
 
@bloodworks Don't keep them in mind, keep them (t1enc.def) in an emacs buffer
 
@DavidCarlisle So now the following could possibly work? note = "[\emph{S{\=\i}c erat scriptum}.]"
 
8:14 PM
@DavidCarlisle lol
 
@nuttyaboutnatty yep
 
emacs...
I wonder if after starting to climb the hills of LaTeX I'll ever reach the world of vi and/or emacs... or die in ignorance b4
 
@nuttyaboutnatty possibly will not shift the bar
@nuttyaboutnatty well there is no vim "hill" only some kind of hell
 
okidoki let's give it a try
and wheather 'tis heaven or not
(which is obviously highly subjective........)
 
@nuttyaboutnatty for devils heaven surely looks like hell for angles ;)
 
8:20 PM
 
@DavidCarlisle boooo
<3
 
5 mins ago, by bloodworks
@nuttyaboutnatty well there is no vim "hill" only some kind of hell
 
@DavidCarlisle If you are able to quit vim, you are chosen. :)
 
@PauloCereda can something more be done with vim? i doubt...
 
8:23 PM
thx David !
 
@bloodworks Let me guess, you are an emacs user. Typical. :)
 
@PauloCereda Can you guess which editor I use?
 
@PauloCereda nope nano
 
@DavidCarlisle Notepad? :)
@bloodworks Hey!!!!! This is a two-horses town.
:)
 
@PauloCereda usually, but if I need something a bit smarter I use Word.
 
8:26 PM
nano brings some good memories. :) And ed too. :)
@DavidCarlisle No WordPad? :)
 
@PauloCereda You're showing an alarming familiarity with windows tools, perhaps your claim to be a linux and mac user is all a front.
 
@DavidCarlisle I need to know Windows, my dad keeps calling me every time to solve problems on his PC. :)
My dad uses Firefox. Spooky. :)
 
@PauloCereda Ah I know about that (Mum in my case:-) Although one of my prouder moments a few years back when M was about 6 he sat at Mum's machine to play on some website and just looked in disgust at IE and said to his grandmother "haven't you got firefox?!"
 
Does anyone know if siunitx will keep unit-value pairs from splitting over a line? I can't remember.
Also, what is the proper non-breaking sperater for a unit-value pair? ~?
 
@Canageek dunno: stick one in a thin minipage and see what happens:-)
 
8:37 PM
@DavidCarlisle Oh my! :) M is awesome, just like his dad. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle Someone needs to make a "stick this at the end of a line" package for testing
 
Despite of course being an emacs devotee.
 
@Canageek It does, but there is actually an option for turning that off: allow-number-unit-breaks=true.
 
@percusse: It took me a while, but I fixed it... The solution was given to me by that post:
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/101750/non-pdf-special-ignored-texlive-pstricks-osx-mac

This:
\usepackage{ifpdf}
\ifpdf
\usepackage{auto-pst-pdf}
\else
\usepackage{pstricks}
\fi

Takes care of my issue, but I don't really understand why. Do you know?
 
@Canageek in any case for units or dimensions always use siunitx later on you will learn why
 
8:43 PM
@bloodworks I do, this isn't my document (I'm editing someone else's document, and wanted to make sure siunitx was the right solution for the problem)
Answer: yes, yes it does keep unit-value pairs from splitting across lines.
 
@Canageek i know nothing better
joseph has made great efforts to comply to international scientific standards
 
@bloodworks Right, I just wanted to make sure that it would actually stop unit-value pairs splitting across lines.
Which it does
(I use it in all my documents)
 
9:09 PM
Another use case of \xpatchparametertext from regexpatch. :)
 
9:37 PM
I wish someone would write a script to autofind the fastest CTAN mirror from your location. It used to be easy to tell that the Waterloo mirror would be the fastest (since I within spitting distance of UW) but now that I'm on the west coast I'm not sure.
 
@egreg Oh. :)
 
@PauloCereda \xpatchparametertext{\@cline}{-}{\cA-}{}{} for getting an active - as delimiter for \cline commands (the "Slovak" question). :)
 
9:53 PM
@egreg I'll upvote it soon. :)
 
10:25 PM
@PauloCereda nooooooo
 
@DavidCarlisle I'll upvote your answers too. :)
 
10:40 PM
@PauloCereda Why? :P
 
11:03 PM
@egreg I don't want to upset David. :)
 
@PauloCereda good reason
 
Ack.
 
11:42 PM
Ack from Psmith.
Aha! Another method. :)
No CHAOS will kill Psmith. :)
 
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