@JosephWright Ah, the part of the job we all hate. China sounds interesting though.

@JosephWright Some sort of review or vetting process it still necessary. But a lot of it is just inertia. People want to publish in well known journals, even if they are run by predatory publishers.

@AlanMunn Fudan, in Shanghai

@JosephWright A very good university.

@JosephWright You work for the University of East Anglia?

@FaheemMitha Certainly there is pressure to publish in high-impact journals. All of the high-impact ones in chemistry have traditionally been owned by learned societies. I'm not that happy that Nature decided to launch Nature Chemistry: the existing Angewandte Chemie remains for me the best journal in chemistry

@FaheemMitha Yes: uea.ac.uk/che/people/faculty/jaw

@AlanMunn We have a university-wide plan to have strong links with Fudan

@AlanMunn They visited us earlier in the year. We have money for staff and student exchange both ways this year.

@FaheemMitha Any publishers in mind?

@JosephWright It must be difficult to combine being a researcher with your TeX work. I doubt the university is particularly supportive.

@JosephWright These kinds of exchanges can be hit or miss, I think. But I suspect in the hard sciences the chances of a hit are a bit better.

@JosephWright There are frequent complaints about Elsevier, for example.

elsevier boycott gets a lot of hits.

@FaheemMitha Provided I get on and do my job people are not going to complain

@JosephWright Sure. I was not suggesting you do not do your job. I just think it must be demanding.

@FaheemMitha Yes: handily for me they publish the not-so-heavily-targetted journals in my area. The classic example is Tetrahedron Letters: solid work, mainly not going to set the world on fire, used to be camera-ready (my first paper is in there).

@FaheemMitha Of course

@JosephWright I see.

springer is also not very nice, as are others.

@FaheemMitha Certainly the prices of journals vary a lot, with the society-owned ones coming out ahead

@JosephWright You mean the society-owned ones are more expensive?

@FaheemMitha No, cheaper

@JosephWright Thanks for the clarification.

For example, the best chemistry journal: ordering.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/… (owned by GDCh) versus Tetrahedron Letters: store.elsevier.com/product.jsp?issn=00404039 (Elsevier)

@JosephWright german papers are the best ... by far ;)

@JosephWright Does your job require much programming, or more experiments?

@FaheemMitha I'm a lab person, but being handy on the computer is proving useful. For example, all of our data nowadays is plotted with pgfplots and some templates I've set up, and I'm getting the hang of theoretical simulations ('DFT'): that's computer based, but using simple-ish input not real programming.

@JosephWright I see. I just wondered. Programming in a scientific context can be very time-consuming.

@FaheemMitha Outside of serious theoretical groups there's not much programming in chemistry.

@JosephWright Ah. Like numerical solutions of schrodingers equation.

@FaheemMitha at least for my university this is simply the result of the insufficient education on the field

of computing

(maybe not in classical chemistry)

@FaheemMitha multivariate statistics in spectroscopy

@JosephWright: regarding my question last time about possible legal issues with the one linked Russian book in LaTeX Introductions in languages other than English(“LaTeX 2e по-русски (2004) by И. Котельников and П. Чеботаев”) I’m very sure, that one of the authors is active here: Igor Kotelnikov. (cont.)

(cont.) So, if you have some special moderator tool, the best should be to ask him, whether the older version of the book is legally available for free.

@bloodworks I see. You are a chemist too?

@FaheemMitha All rolled up into programs we either buy or download for free (depending on which one)

@FaheemMitha kinda, i am a food engineer

@igorkotelnikov Could you look at the point @Speravir raises just above?

@Speravir That's a 'two-@' message, so he should see it

@bloodworks Ah. Interesting.

@JosephWright Yes, I thought so.

Lots of different kinds of people here. It's the siren call of TeX.

@bloodworks banana republic of germany?

@FaheemMitha lol

@FaheemMitha yes

born and survived till now

@bloodworks So, not a fan of Germany then? Or am I misunderstanding?

@FaheemMitha well lets say i am a critic

@JosephWright @IgorKotelnikow See also chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/41?m=7500373#7500373.

@bloodworks Ok.

@FaheemMitha i would be unfair to say that we live in desperation.

@bloodworks Who? Germans?

@JosephWright Is the notation proposed in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/91489/… "legal"?

@FaheemMitha yeah i recently visited Hungary. Many young persons there are planing their leave while they are still at uiversity

@egreg Well, siunitx won't parse it :-)

that's different

@egreg I've been waiting to see if someone else would answer: I hardly need the rep

@JosephWright Sure it won't; what I wanted to know is if it's really used in that form, a vector multiplied by a unit.

@egreg I struggle to get the idea across that siunitx is aimed at typesetting physical measurements

@egreg I've never come across it

@egreg I can't see how one can actually measure such a thing

@bloodworks Well, I don't think anyone could claim Germans are badly off from a worldwide perspective.

Try visiting some Third World countries, then compare and constrast.

@FaheemMitha yeah that's exactly what i try to say

@JasonBourne :-)

hi

@JasonBourne not more than a occasional user is

@leo Hello

@AndrewStacey any idea on how to share internet from my pc to my iPad via USB?

@leo salut

:-)

How do I do +lnum in fontspec, again?

:s

@FaheemMitha Hi! It is on complex numeration system. There is still something interesting about it, but what we have done is done in that paper as well.

@Gnintendo Numbers=Lining

I thought I was supposed to set a feature when loading the font or something

maybe I'm just crazy

@tohecz I see. Thanks.

@egreg is that an option for fontspec itself?

n8

@FaheemMitha Now, tell me how does one with a 25minute talk on that topic, that is supposed to present his original works?

@bloodworks bye

@Gnintendo It's a font specific option: \setmainfont[Numbers=Lining,Ligatures=TeX]{font}, for instance. Or in \addfontfeatures or \newfontfamily

@tohecz Be very synthetic.

Hmm been to the pantomime, so I guess @egreg wins this week:-)

@egreg yeah, that's what I'll try to do. However, it's quite difficult, I've been doing something into this topic only for 3 months so I don't have much background.

@egreg thanks

@DavidCarlisle Umph, I discovered that weeks for SE end on Friday nights.

@egreg done. I'm as well thinking about poitning out that i|i\notin X is redundant, you can say just i\notin X

@tohecz Of course: it's clear what's the index over which the summation runs.

@egreg current week shows you on 1760, that's not since Friday is is it??

@DavidCarlisle Oh, maybe it shows always the last seven days.

@egreg ah.

@egreg really? I believe it's GMT midnight between Sat and Sun...

damn I would never think one can have 5 typographical comments to one not so complicated formula.

@egreg Being English, he's a true gentleman. :)

@PauloCereda He still has one hour to collect the missing 80 points; maybe a good tikz-pgf answer? Unfortunately I'm out of votes. ;-)

@egreg ooh! :)

@egreg you are out of _downvotes_\/? :D

I would like to see what colleration is between time of the answer and number of upvotes it recieves... /todo in DataExplorer when I have some spare time

damn, even 1135 week rep isn't enough for the first line in the league :(

@tohecz Amateur! :P

@egreg well, 5th place is probably my best one

Meanwhile, less than 500 votes to break the 20k barrier. :)

@PauloCereda Which means 12 days. :)

@PauloCereda nice :)

@egreg Exactly. :)

@egreg : and @MartinSharrer was cheating this month :p twice

@tohecz :)

@tohecz Yes: a big 500 bounty. Also David earned 50.

@egreg Martin had two, totalling 600

@tohecz I too should go for bounties more actively. I need some rep.

@egreg I would say something rough, but I don't want to offend you :p

By the way, by tomorrow I should break 150K (133 to go).

@egreg Yay!

@egreg you can make it today, it's only 9 tics ;)

Some commands make little sense to me. They prolong the code, you have to remember another command and its parameters, and their added value is negligible

@tohecz I've three or four that might get it; but a couple of them are newbies questions, so they might not get the tick. And there are a couple of questioners who ticked the wrong answer.

@egreg that's always the case (I just lost one 2 minutes ago)

@tohecz I'm not referring to this one, of course: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/90004/…

@egreg sigh, the other one is 2 minutes later and 1 line longer, now: what is more?

@tohecz Well, \smashoperator is better than \mathclap

@egreg You think?

@tohecz Probably. But I'd avoid both, in general.

i'\notin\{i,k\} is shorter.

@egreg I use the \mathclap trick sometimes. Neither of them deals with the fact that I would like some space left there, and I would like to compute it automatically

@egreg still doesn't really fit in

@tohecz \substack{i'\ne i\\i'\ne k}

for me, \smashoperator is just a "blackbox" "alias" for \mathclap, I don't need such

@egreg yeah, that's possibly what I would write, even though people in my branch are used to such tricky notations. Very popular one is \{a,b\}=\{0,1\}

@tohecz One should add 0\ne 1 ;-)

@tohecz For a ring theorist, adding with $0\ne1$ is sometimes very important. :)

Some results don't hold in the ring where 0=1

@egreg yeah, but for me, 0 and 1 are just arbitrary symbols, therefore different by definition

@egreg well, we use a semiring where 0=\{1\}, quite crazy, too

215 upvotes!

@PauloCereda I've seen that one before. It is something that is worth so many upvotes, just to show compassion

@PauloCereda It appears that the OP was just able to fire his wife. :)

@tohecz The number of upvotes is very impressive.

@egreg :P

@PauloCereda I hope not in the literal sense.

@egreg Ah yes. :)

@tohecz why not? :-)

@DavidCarlisle because.

need 90 rep in 10 minutes and I can't be bothered to answer any questions. Tricky...

@DavidCarlisle need 60 rep in 10 minutes (you know, I still play the 200 game called Epic/Legendary)

@tohecz just gave you a bit if a boost probably can't give you them all as they'll all just get removed:-)

@DavidCarlisle well, 40 rep in 6 minutes? I'm probably not that lucky, maybe 20 tag wikis would save me, but who'd review them so fast? :p