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03:09
@DavidCarlisle not really. those lines are the same. obviously you get more changes if you diff the pdf outputs, just because of the (-20)s everywhere. but you also get e.g.
but I don't understand why it is so different from the luatex case.
-....\glue(\rightskip) 0.0
-...\penalty 150
-...\glue(\baselineskip) 2.5
-...\hbox(9.0+3.0)x418.25368, glue set 0.29521
+....\glue(\thickmuskip) 3.33328 plus 3.33328
why ^^ after =? is it just because the fonts are different between this and the lua case?
the lua output is much very like the pdf-without-microtype output.
(but I am too tired to think about this.)
 
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09:22
@cfr your first block is showing a line that did not linebreak at = (so = is followed by the penalty 500 node) and the second one is showing a linebreak after = (so = is followed by \rightskip glue node. ) These obviously look different but I am not sure what your question is. Linebreaking in luatex isn't always the same as in pdftex, so different linebreaking is not something unexpected.
 
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10:56
@cfr Type1=T1? I didn't get very far yet. You mean the various tools, not fools, right. Similar, but not the same. I googled a bit. But didn't get me far either. Is it more or less easy to convert a ttf to fd? As I see, ttf and otf is the same by now (or isn't it?). metafont, complete different thing. But how does the fd come in here. I also had a look at what David mentioned. But I'm still missing some clarity.
And svg seems to be the state of the art. Right?
@MaestroGlanz no T1 is the tex-specific 8-bit encoding for European text. as in \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
@MaestroGlanz "Is it more or less easy to convert a ttf to fd?" an fd file is tex code not a conversion of font data, it just declares what actual font to use if the user goes \Large\textsc{\textsl{\textbf{hello}}}
@MaestroGlanz svg state of which art? It's more or less unrelated to font declarations?
11:18
@DavidCarlisle I just read about svg-fonts before. And this article said so.
@DavidCarlisle So, the fd file is only a conversion between the standard LaTeX commands and the font features.
This kind of stuff: https://www.fontspace.com/category/svg

Yes, it's fugly....
@MaestroGlanz not font features (in the sense of opentype features) just font file name.
I mean feature like "textbf" -> "bold weigh 3", because the author called it that way.
Can I adjust the kerning for certain character combinations in the fd file? Because this is one of the most frequent issues, I run into. A font has nice glyphs, but the kerning is just a mess.
@MaestroGlanz pdftex (the main use of fd files0 can not access feature such as weight.Just look at the files they are simple tex code you can read them:
\DeclareFontShape{OT1}{cmr}{bx}{n}
   {%
      <5><6><7><8><9>gen*cmbx%
      <10><10.95>cmbx10%
      <12><14.4><17.28><20.74><24.88>cmbx12%
      }{}
says in \fontencoding{OT1}\fontfamily{cmr}\fontseries{bx}\fontshape{n} should use `cmbx5 at 5pt, a suitably scaled cmbx12 at 24.88pt and at any size other than those listed, it should substitute the nearest size
@MaestroGlanz no: fd files have nothing to do with internal font data, they are just about the external file name
11:34
I saw these, but I had a hard time understanding these.
@MaestroGlanz the syntax is explained in fntguide but it's as I said, the first arguments match the latex font selection commands then the final argument is a list of sizes and a function for each how to generate the font file name
I looked at it before already, but now with that extra information and looking again, it's a bit clearer. I will look at one of the fd files first, before I proceed.
@DavidCarlisle Is there any way then to "fix" these fonts. I did something like \catcode´€=13 \def€{\detokenize{€}\kern -0.1em\relax} already (simplified). For testing purposes. But this may easily break.
11:52
@MaestroGlanz In pdfTeX or in LuaTeX?
12:02
@MaestroGlanz as Joseph just asked, if you are using luatex you don't normally need fd files at all and there is a Lua interface to adjusting font metrics on the fly) if you are using pdftex then no you need to make a virtual font with the modified matrics but if you are using pdftex you can not assign a catcode to as it is three tokens not one.
€ was just an example, since I don't have the long s on my work keyboard (windows). Okay, that means fd-files only for pdflatex. So LuaLaTeX doesn't need the fd-files, or do I need something additionally for LuaLaTeX. I used fontspec already under LuaLaTeX. Is this the thing, you mean.
@MaestroGlanz yes then see luatex manual section 6.3 on making virtual fonts in Lua, which is how to adjust the metrics
 
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13:25
Oh, @JosephWright stole @egreg's job and found all the missing %.
@Skillmon :)
13:43
@Skillmon Lesser artists steal, greater artists borrow. You choose the category
13:57
@Skillmon if you mean my PR: there aren't % missing, at most there are still too many ...
@UlrikeFischer tricky thing, this expl syntax changing the rules:-)
 
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16:12
@DavidCarlisle Is pdftex working as expected again?
@mickep seems so.
16:25
@UlrikeFischer Very good!
 
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19:14
@UlrikeFischer I know :)
19:42
On ctan is a new package marginalia by Alan J. Cain, »scholar of fortune«. The package is one thing. But on p. 3, sidenote 5 of the manual he reveals that he used it in his book »A. J. Cain. Form & Number: A History of Mathematical Beauty. Lisbon, 2024.« and I followed the the link. I'm not a mathematician, but this book looks outstanding. I've no idea whether Cain mastered the subject (it looks very much so!), but he surely mastered LaTeX and TiKz. Go and look for yourselves.
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20:00
Page xxxi: "Ibid is a well-known authority on everything,” said Xeno. ’" (T. Pratchett). Now I have to read it...
 
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21:33
Got a palindrome!
user image
7
from giving a bounty too
With a cuneiform citation too ... amazing
But! Pagination on the right on left pages? I think, page numbers should always be printed to the outside, so that a reader can quickly browse the book. In understand the design though ...
Oh, well it's an ebook layout ...
Ah, there exists a version for printing and it has ... of course! ... pagination at the proper places on even pages =)
This should really be added to the "showcase beautiful typesetting with TeX" big list (tex.stackexchange.com/q/1319/47927)
22:30
@JasperHabicht agreed. It's really a great piece of art and very visually pleasing

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