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01:33
@EmanueleNardi Do it. Create a mode, if you want. But don't expect it to be the utterly perfect everyone-will-want-to-use-it mode. It won't be. But people will use it, and will like it, if it works for them. And you will learn in the process, which is never a bad outcome. I have used VS Code, but like @DavidCarlisle, not really for LaTex, mostly because I couldn't find a LaTex mode I liked (decent syntax highlighting, doesn't get in my way when I try to do something).
cfr
cfr
01:59
do windows line endings always show up as ^M$?
 
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03:47
While experimenting with the mathbbol package mentioned in this post tex.stackexchange.com/a/669518 I discovered a typo in the package: \bbepsilon is misspelled as \bbespilon. Given the package's age, is it worth fixing?
 
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cfr
cfr
07:34
@LaTeXereXeTaL If people are still using it to answer questions, I'd think it is worth fixing. how easily it can be fixed, I have no idea. but the latex people probably know.
07:46
@gusbrs do people even remember these days what auc in auctex stands for? I've never minded the coloring in auctex. But I also dont like excessive coloring.
cfr
cfr
07:58
@PauloCereda :) unfortunately, I no longer know which line endings to write an angry letter about. what uses CR endings?
@PauloCereda oh. they're mac endings? (as in mac os 9 and earlier ...)
08:48
@cfr wherein?
@cfr iirc, <CR><LF> is DOS, <CR> is old Apple, <LF> is *nix.
@cfr perhaps I should've read your next message before answering... :P
cfr
cfr
09:05
@Skillmon that was my attempt to save somebody the trouble of answering ;).
@Skillmon albatross appears to produce a mixture of linux and ... er, mac ... endings. but I imagine it is really something else. (like @PauloCereda's spinning animation.)
09:31
@cfr I understand that it is meant to check the syntax of exlp3 code. I also tested it on two package files and it only gave back "line too long" warnings ... (which is probably right, I did not check)
I think it checks the code for expl3 parts and only processes these, so it should not really matter whether your file contains only expl3 code or a mix.
10:12
@JasperHabicht go check etl.
(I wanna know how evil I am)
@cfr show up where?
10:38
@DavidCarlisle so slow
2 hours ago, by Skillmon
@cfr wherein?
@DavidCarlisle ^^^
10:50
@daleif I've been corrected on the proper casing of AUCTeX by Arash on those grounds in the past. So I'd say some people do. ;-) Regarding coloring, same here, in general the defaults are too much for me already, if I tweak something it is usually to tone it down.
11:24
@gusbrs It is the former name of a Danish university. Where auctex started
@Skillmon 8 lines too long.
@JasperHabicht most likely only after docstrip.
@daleif Yes, I know. I've known ever since Arash told me. ;-) But now I'm in doubt of why you asked that. I thought you were telling not to mind the casing, as I did. But since you are telling me what it means now, I suppose it was something else?...
@Skillmon Yes, I tested the .sty
I discovered that I don't really adhere to the syntax suggestions ... lines exceed 80 chars and I also typically place the opening curly brace in the same line, not a new line. But, at least I am consistent =D
11:48
@cfr As far as I can tell it's just correcting the spelling of "epsilon" in one file (mathbbol.sty).
@cfr This post shows the misspelling but doesn't actually point it out as a misspelling. I wonder how it has gone for so long without being fixed. Am I missing something? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/722927/…
@LaTeXereXeTaL just mail Jörg and ask him, he's still around, and basically no one else has write access.
@LaTeXereXeTaL oh actually it's GPL so you have write access but ctan are unlikely to accept anupdate without a nod from Jörg
@gusbrs No, it was just if people actually knew what the name actually meant
@daleif Ah, I see. Well, it's in the FAQ, which probably boils down to "some people do, most don't". I'm one of the former. ;-)
12:10
tabularray will shortly provide an interface for TikZ by making accessible table and cell corners as coordinates.
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cis
cis
12:39
Does anybody know:
Why does W|A give me the result only as word, not as number?
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https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=5000000-binom%2849-1%2C5%29-binom%2849-2%2C6-1%29-binom%2849-3%2C6-1%29
@cis no idea but if you stick //NumberForm at the end it shows a number
cis
cis
@DavidCarlisle Ah thx. The number of possible stumbling blocks at work is infinite...
@gusbrs It is not the spelling I was referring to. Just if anyone remembered what 'auc' meant. Nevermind.
13:07
@daleif I got that. It just so happens that I learned it probably because I pestered AUCTeX devs enough that I got "educated" on the casing thing. But, yes, we already agree for some time but for some reason we are still running in circles. Thus: "nevermind". :-)
 
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cfr
cfr
16:45
@JasperHabicht it seems to also check non-expl3 sections for expl3. it gave me large numbers of warnings about too-long lines, yes. but it also reported 4 alleged uses of expl3 syntax in non-expl3 as errors. I just wondered if it was expected to do that. as far as I can tell, it just doesn't like _ in maths?
@DavidCarlisle albatross. or, rather, not albatross.
@cfr but albatross is reading fonts, where do text file line ends come from, or do you mean in its output list?
cfr
cfr
@JasperHabicht it also gives me 43 similar errors for a .cls where the expl3 are, in fact, in an expl3 part, so I guess it is just easily confused?
17:09
I seem to get linux line ends from abatross x > a.txt in wsl ubuntu with tl 2024: `$ file a.txt
a.txt: Unicode text, UTF-8 text`
@cfr ^
18:07
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@DavidCarlisle 6,7,676 doesn't look correct.
@Skillmon I could give you some more complete emacs lisp if you prefer
@DavidCarlisle nah, I'd have no idea what to do with it.
cfr
cfr
18:29
@DavidCarlisle I think you probably have a faster machine than I do ;).
@Skillmon 6,7,6,7,6 ?
@JasperHabicht nah, that would be 6,7,6,76, (no comma behind the second 7, the imperative was behind the 6)
cfr
cfr
@DavidCarlisle although if that is really what you typed, it would be irrelevant.
albatross a > /tmp/a.txt && file /tmp/a.txt
/tmp/a.txt: Unicode text, UTF-8 text, with CR, LF line terminators, with escape sequences
@DavidCarlisle ^
@Skillmon Oh, I see =D but this is not at all symmetric. maybe use transparent commas with zero width ... that would solve everything
18:57
@cfr that's odd I wonder why you are getting CR/LF clearly @PauloCereda's fault.
@DavidCarlisle But 🦆 are very unicode compatible.
@mickep yes Unicode even supports converting them to 🍗
@DavidCarlisle 😲🚫
19:17
@DavidCarlisle The only email address I could find for him bounces. I guess I'll leave it at that.
cfr
cfr
19:37
@DavidCarlisle you need a slower pc.
@LaTeXereXeTaL email ctan and/or the texlive mailing list. ctan sometimes have alternative ways of getting in touch with people. or somebody on the mailing list may have contact details.
@DavidCarlisle vegans should be able to use unicode, too!
 
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21:07
@LaTeXereXeTaL a paper from 2022 has an address (fairly sure that's same perspn) aclanthology.org/2022.lrec-1.514.pdf
21:24
@DavidCarlisle oh no
@PauloCereda presumably why it won over the original vi, it was never even close to competing with the one true editor
@DavidCarlisle ooh
 
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22:41
@DavidCarlisle Thank you. I searched and couldn't find anything more recent than the address I had. This one has not bounced yet so maybe it got through.
@cfr I'll try that if the address David found doesn't work.

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