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cfr

05:53

Anyone use matplotlib? I don't even know if it is on topic.

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Q: "An associated PostScript font (required by Matplotlib) could not be found for TeX font 'zptmcm7y' in

An associated PostScript font (required by Matplotlib) could not be found for TeX font 'zptmcm7y' in 'C:/Users/Admin/AppData/Local/MiKTeX/fonts/map/pdftex/pdftex.map'; this problem can often be solved by installing a suitable PostScript font package in your TeX package manager so that's the ...

Joseph Wright

06:04

@LaTeXereXeTaL Don't have a Windows VM?

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mickep

07:08

@JosephWright haha,oh, you are exercising your social skills for doceng

Joseph Wright

07:48

@mickep :)

FriendlyFire

@samcarter Can you please help me tex.stackexchange.com/questions/723021/…

daleif

08:22

Exactly which files in a LaTeX installation can be found via \IfFileExists? I was trying to test for a .ttf file, that kpsewhich says exists, but \IfFileExists keep saying it is not found.

David Carlisle

@daleif it's the same as \input (or more exactly \openin) so any file type may be checked, but only the TEXINPUTS path is searched

daleif

@DavidCarlisle isn't that the same as what kpsewhich does?

David Carlisle

@daleif no: kpsewhich uses magic heuristics and different paths for different file extensions

daleif

@DavidCarlisle grr, I need to check that a specific font is installed (as the user has to manually install this font due to copyrights). And testing for the support sty is not the same as the font being abailable. Hmm, I suffice with testing for the sty for now.

Joseph Wright

@daleif Use kpsewhich via (restricted) shell escape

David Carlisle

08:34

@daleif fontspec has \IfFontExistsTF

daleif

@DavidCarlisle This also have to support pdflatex. I'll deal with it later.

David Carlisle

@daleif but pdflatex wouldn't be able to read a .ttf directly anyway?

daleif

Might want to add a "verify installation" doc instead. That can then use kpsewhich etc to verify that you have installed things correctly. Without having to use the overhead of kpsewhich in ones real doc.

@DavidCarlisle it uses ttf just fine

Joseph Wright

\ExplSyntaxOn
\sys_get_shell:nnN { kpsewhich~batang.ttf } { } \l_tmpa_tl
\show\l_tmpa_tl

@daleif ^^^

There's also a TF version, etc.

(I just picked a random .ttf)

David Carlisle

@daleif ? but only if you have a tfm file (that actually gets read) and then a map file mapping that to ttf somewhere, just a ttf wouldn't work would it?

daleif

08:40

@DavidCarlisle I do think I've done that before without a tfm. But in this case under pdflatex there are tfm files (from autoinst or what ever tool it was I used).

Paulo Cereda

09:17

@StefanKottwitz quack :) see email <3

Joseph Wright

09:56

@PauloCereda Quack!

Paulo Cereda

10:19

@JosephWright ooh a duck <3

@JosephWright quack mr. duck!

egreg

12:57

@samcarter Greetings from Lauscha 😀 Nice curves!

samcarter

@egreg Enjoy the drive!

Stefan Kottwitz

13:56

@PauloCereda got it, thanks!

LaTeXereXeTaL

16:07

@JosephWright Yes, as a matter of fact I do, Virtual Box running, I believe, Windows 7. You're suggesting running Adobe Reader on that?

Joseph Wright

@LaTeXereXeTaL No, PDF-XChange Editor

LaTeXereXeTaL

16:57

@JosephWright Ooooooo...never heard of that! Okay I will check it out. Thank you!

David Carlisle

17:25

@mickep no one wants to use context:-)

@LaTeXereXeTaL also the online system ngpdf.com/loadFile gives detailed tagging information and full support for pdf 2

Ulrike Fischer

18:45

@DavidCarlisle important progress for the tagging project: github.com/cereda/sillypage/pull/16

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David Carlisle

@UlrikeFischer I had pinged @PauloCereda earlier in skype that an update was needed, but he just blamed you

LaTeXereXeTaL

19:30

@DavidCarlisle I wasn't aware of that. Thank you!

David Carlisle

@LaTeXereXeTaL it's one of the few systems that understand our formulae tagged with mathml associated files so if you look at the latex3 wtpdf examples in there, you see the derived html has good clean mathml rendering in the browser (turn off mathjax in the sidebar menu)

Paulo Cereda

@StefanKottwitz thank YOU! <3

mickep

20:09

@DavidCarlisle bah, duplicated on a question about latex... Well well

@cfr I think there are examples where MetaPost is used to create fonts.

David Carlisle

@mickep yes I wondered about that but seems better to steer them towards latex than metafont as an initial starting point, you can always lure them to context later

mickep

@DavidCarlisle Well, it is a bit interesting that they had the impression to need to learn/use metafont.

David Carlisle

@mickep Knuth's books ABCD pick one at random...

mickep

@DavidCarlisle But then they also had the ultimate starting point.

yo'

21:01

@DavidCarlisle and you can likely blame Overleaf for that if you want :D

David Carlisle

21:40

@yo' that's such a deficient system power context users use a more featureful system

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yo'

@DavidCarlisle I wanted to test, but it seems that no matter how hard I try, I can't find an actually simple single-file context example to test on wiki.contextgarden.net/Basics :-/

David Carlisle

@yo' write hello world in the middle of the link I just gave or try this

@mickep would be impressed with my context skills

Alan Munn

21:55

@DavidCarlisle I never actually use the package, so my version still had the old bug. But that wasn't actually the problem in the end. The environment can't contain any blank lines.

yo'

So as I thought, you can run context on Overleaf :) overleaf.com/read/qfdjrrbxymvh#ac6440

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle But it's annoying when people don't distribute code via CTAN. But I've tried to convince Nathan to do so, but without success. My linguist colleague package writers are an annoying bunch.

David Carlisle

@AlanMunn I wondered if it was the blank line when I saw the message in the question but I got no error...

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle Even with the blank line?

David Carlisle

@AlanMunn yes as posted

@AlanMunn at least you have me to keep up the ctan quota from well known linguists

Alan Munn

21:58

@DavidCarlisle Oh you're right. I was testing with linguex. So it's the interaction of the two that actually causes it. Because in another annoyance, linguex uses a blank line to delimit the end of an example. Ugh.

David Carlisle

@AlanMunn so the OP provided an example that wasn't an example of the problem. Shocking, that's never happened before.

@AlanMunn linguex is here I get no error:

\documentclass[10pt,a4paper]{article}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Times New Roman}
\usepackage{linguex}
\usepackage[noipa]{OTtablx}

\begin{document}

\begin{OTtableau} [arabic] {4}
\OTsolids{1,2} \OTtoprow [\normalfont \textit{Input}] {\textsc{\textbf{constraint 1}}, \textsc{\textbf{constraint 2}}, \textsc{\textbf{constraint 3}}}
\OTcandrow {\normalfont candidate 1} {*!,,,}
\OTcandrow {\OThand\normalfont candidate 2} {,*, *,}

\end{OTtableau}
\end{document}

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle Yes, but add \ex. on a line before the \begin{OTtableau} and you'll get the error.

David Carlisle

@AlanMunn and I was supposed to guess that from the question? :-)

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle I have no idea. Did the original posted example have no \ex.? I came late to the party.

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle you could use my crystall ball from Prague.

David Carlisle

22:03

@AlanMunn it has no \ex as currently posted

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle It's all Marijn's fault. He removed cgloss and the \ex. from the originally posted code.

David Carlisle

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@UlrikeFischer ^ thanks

@AlanMunn I'll put ex back

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle Honestly we could just revert to the first version and then remove cgloss (another non-ctan contribution), which isn't really relevant here.

@DavidCarlisle But your edit shows the correct problem as posted originally, and now my answer also matches it.

David Carlisle

@AlanMunn feel free, I just made it match what I tested just now after your hint but reverting to the Ops original might be good if that makes sense

@AlanMunn ok lets call it quits then.

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle No I think it should be fine. I've added a comment apologizing for the confusion we all caused.

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