@AlanMunn Sorry.

@cfr Not sure what you're apologizing for, but I'm sure it's totally unwarranted. :)

@cfr -- Just a mild reproof, When I answered this question (tex.stackexchange.com/a/17571) I was working for the AMS, and I needed to distinguish between "official pronouncements" (where I used proper capitalization) and my own opinions (where I kept everything lowercase). That was explained in my profile. By applying uppercase, you have changed history. I'm not going to change it though. (But thanks for adding the output example.)

@barbarabeeton I'm really sorry. I did not notice whose answer it was. I didn't add the output example. Somebody else did that. I edited the edit in the review queue to add alt text. I saw the editor's username, but I didn't notice yours or I would not have changed the capitalisation. I think it should be changed back. There were a bunch of these in the review queue and I added alt text to all of them. I should have been more careful, but I just didn't pay attention to whose answers they were.

@cfr -- Oh, thanks for the explanation. I clearly goofed too when I didn't notice someone else's name was on the image addition. It is true that properly uppercased text is more readily understood, and I don't let anyone get away with less when I edit TUGboat submissions. (I've just finished dealing with an article on Latin paleography; fascinating.) Don't worry about your changes; they do improve the answer, and nobody at AMS cares any more.

@barbarabeeton I realised one reason I probably didn't notice whose answers they were is that the author is shown at the top in the review queue. If I'm looking at the edit, that is typically not even on my screen.

I want to just disappear.

@barbarabeeton Otherwise you'd have noticed I was only responsible for screwing up ....

@cfr -- I think that things like this have gotten less clear as the management has seen fit to redesign so many things. I'm not sure why it's needed; redesign for the sake of redesign is only very rarely an improvement. (Time now for sleep.)

@DavidCarlisle Why ever not?

@DavidCarlisle ooh no, that means this time around it's my fault!

Hm, texhax list is sometimes a bit unexpected...

@mickep Oh indeed

@mickep While composing this answer I just remembered all the different table mechanisms in ConTeXt. Is there somewhere a recent summary which of the mechanisms should be preferred in which situations?

@TeXnician I haven't seen any new work on tables lately. (Nice answer!)

@mickep Thanks. At least one area where my ConTeXt knowledge isn't immediately outdated :)

@DavidCarlisle David thank you very much for your reply. Have you seen that had I right? :-). @JosephWright Thank you for your link. Best regards

@JosephWright Oh no, I’d better start coming up with some mildly useless / mildly useful commands to add to it (is this like inbox zero?)

@WillRobertson :)

@WillRobertson The plan is 'everything via a reviewed PR', but ... we don't always get review ...

@JosephWright ooh no, no previews!

@Skillmon oh no

@JosephWright That’s a good plan… I don’t often see GitHub emails nowadays (overwhelmed) but feel free to ping me if I can help

@WillRobertson ping <3

@PauloCereda pong <3

@Skillmon pang <3

ooh

@PauloCereda c-c-c-combo-breaker!

@Skillmon ooh supreme victory

I blame @PauloCereda

@DavidCarlisle what did he do? Hide all ducks?

@UlrikeFischer he broke my laptop: had new keyboard/trackpad top plate fitted this week under warranty, which looks very nice, but this morning power button doesn't work so I can't turn it on....

@DavidCarlisle have you tried turning it off and on again?

@Skillmon with a hammer?

@DavidCarlisle for instance!

@Skillmon the "off" part of that plan might work

@DavidCarlisle if you want I can ask more of the go-to-solutions of every bad IT-service: Have you verified that all connectors are correctly attached?

@Skillmon yes and I tried disconnecting and reconnecting the wires with an axe, but still no change

@DavidCarlisle have you tried shutting off all the electric devices in the surrounding? (And yes, I was asked that once, while I was on the phone, with some support -- I was tempted to switch off my phone...)

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@DavidCarlisle ooh laptop issues

@Skillmon The duck might be very undercooked if he shuts off the electric stove

@samcarter vvv

@UlrikeFischer oh no :)

@UlrikeFischer github.com/latex3/latex2e/commit/…

@JosephWright ;-). David said it should be \fp_set_function:nnn{dinner}{duck}{duck-0.25} so that it gets finished. And is the 0.25duck actually supported syntax or should that be 0.25*duck?

@UlrikeFischer Syntax is the same as for built-ins, so 0.5sin or similar is the model

@UlrikeFischer I agree --- my wife and I will have lunch with half Pekin duck, so 1/4 each is ok ;-)

@JosephWright then it is perhaps even good if the examples shows that, even if it means that the portions gets smaller over time.

@UlrikeFischer So you'd prefer 0.75 * duck?

@samcarter since @PauloCereda hasn't shown up, yet: Oh no!

@JosephWright I do (it's one thing I don't like of Julia). The problem is that then you expect fraction duck to work... but if it's all documented, no problem.

@JosephWright as multiplication I prefer 0.75 * duck over 0.75 duck. As receipe for the dinner it should probably be simply duck - 0.25 to that everyone get the same amount.

@UlrikeFischer oh no

@samcarter oh no

@Skillmon awww <3

@PauloCereda CARROT!!! Here, have one, too: <3

@PauloCereda <3

Are packages that provide support for proprietary fonts not included in TeX Live, even if the font is freely made available? Or does it depend on the specific licence that the font itself is released under?

Asking because I've just noticed that the Casio calculator font support package I created is part of MikTeX but not TeX Live, even though the font is made available from Casio.

@samcarter -- I prefer to think of that as a turkey.

@AlanMunn i think the font has to be on ctan and be includable in texlive. There 7s a reason why nonfreefonts (the programmer) exists.

@daleif If I had read my own documentation to the package I would have known the answers to my question, which are exactly what you say. :D

@AlanMunn surely no one would expect you to go to such extraordinary lengths

@DavidCarlisle Yeah, it's a recurring problem indeed.

@AlanMunn Yes that's the case as one cannot use them effectively without a proprietary element

@JosephWright Curious if this licence is too restrictive to count as TeXLive free

@AlanMunn Definitely

@JosephWright although rules get relaxed for operating systems it seems

@DavidCarlisle Also called "avoiding irrelevancy".

@barbarabeeton ... better than a duck, but still...

I'm kind of losing my mind here... \DeclareKeys seems to be in the kernel but I can't find a documentation. I've roamed every pdf file I could find (expl3, interface3, l3keys2e,...) but I couldn't find anything...

@campa clsguide

@JosephWright Ah, I was looking in the completely wrong direction Thx.

killing commas... ;-)

@Rmano -- Have pity on those poor defunct commas!