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05:24
@DavidCarlisle Oh, so you are really doing some work beside the TeXing. :P
@DavidCarlisle Sometimes very wise...
 
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08:25
When I choose an option such 10pt 11pt 12pt in documentclass{book}, I make a change to the command @ptsize{0}, as I saw in book.cls. But actually, if I am not wrong, font size is chosen according to \fontsize{size}{skip}. I haven't seen any fontsize command in the file book.cls. Then how latex changes the font size? I am asking because I want to make sure that I know what skip latex is using when I specify an option like 11pt.
@tush the class will load a size11.clo (article.cls) or bk11.clo (book) with the various sizes.
Thank you :) Yes, just discovered it myself..

Then what is actually set up here:?

```
\renewcommand\normalsize{%
\@setfontsize\normalsize\@xpt\@xiipt
```
(first lines in bk10)

And here:?
```
\renewcommand\normalsize{%
\@setfontsize\normalsize\@xipt{13.6}%
```
(bk11.clo)

I mean, what is the equivalent of these commands to \fontsize{size}{skip} ?
you find the definitions of the commands in latex.ltx: \def\@xpt{10}\def\@xipt{10.95} \def\@xiipt{12}
Ok
Thank you!
08:54
Liz Truss replaced Boris Johnson. Now that she's out, one of the names to replace her is... Boris Johnson.
I suspect the UK now is a big Monty Python sketch.
17 hours ago, by David Carlisle
@mickep package rollback is so unreliable
@samcarter ooh
09:43
@PauloCereda Dodos are quicker than ducks.
@PauloCereda Also, it is extensible recipe fixing time:
10:01
@mickep ooh
@mickep ooh
10:26
@mickep only "Sometimes"? I'm hurt:(
10:44
@DavidCarlisle Well, can be interpreted in many ways. :)
@DavidCarlisle ooh old people
11:16
Grrr, I have to remove font Iosevka. luaotfload churning during the last 12 minutes (with no progress bar, ouch).
11:28
@Rmano blame @UlrikeFischer
@DavidCarlisle Had a chance to look at my PRs? OR do I blame @UlrikeFischer for that too? ;)
@JosephWright No I got mml work last night will have time this evening,
@DavidCarlisle :)
@DavidCarlisle Thanks
@DavidCarlisle Nothing yet from the request you made - guess the contact is busy
@JosephWright I approve your first one. The other one -- well, team should discuss this :P
@Skillmon You like the 'tidy up'? (I've got 4 PRs open at the moment ... so numbering them might not agree between you and me :)]
11:31
@JosephWright no, the "move handler to ltkeys" one. :)
@Skillmon That's the 'tidy up' one, yes :)
@Skillmon I thought you'd like it
@Skillmon 'Interface' works for you I guess
@JosephWright just memory mix-up between one of the commit notes and the PR title.
@JosephWright I wondered about that one. What it is actually doing?
@UlrikeFischer Much of what it says: @Skillmon pointed out that the existing structure puts the detail of calling \ProcessKeyOptions in ltclass rather than ltkeys; the change means that there is cleaner separation
@UlrikeFischer Side effect of that is that it's possible for other keyval handlers to be used ...
@JosephWright ah, that's why he wanted it?
11:43
@UlrikeFischer Might be ...
@UlrikeFischer It definitely is a cleaner approach, so I'm happy to back it for that reason alone
@UlrikeFischer no, that can't be the case :P
@JosephWright it's fine, I only wondered why, simply cleaning up is normally not something people are asking for ;-)
@UlrikeFischer in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/662544/…, did you mean "can't change"?
@UlrikeFischer to be honest: Yes, I'd prefer if I could also parse future options without hacking kernel commands, so that's definitely a plus for me. But the new code needs less \expandafter, has cleaner separation of means, and should be a tad bit faster while costing fewer tokens (not a restriction for kernel stuff nowadays, I know). So it is better in every way, imho.
@Rmano can't have been me, I never confuse can and can't.
11:49
@UlrikeFischer well, if I had seen the original PR in time I would've pointed these changes out as well (or maybe I did point it out, but only in an email to Joseph, not sure about the timing of events)
@Skillmon Quite, plus I spotted an incorrect usage in a message
@UlrikeFischer ;-)
 
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13:08
@JosephWright ah I built the wrong one, I built a tuneup format and unused option handling didn't change....
 
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15:04
Any Windows users around who use R?
15:34
@AlanMunn only windows user. But what is the problem?
 
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16:58
Trying to install R packages yields an error like this: `Error in install.packages : ERROR: failed to lock directory ‘C:\Users\xxxxx\OneDrive\Documents\R\win-library\3.6’ for modifying
Try removing ‘C:\Users\xxxxx\OneDrive\Documents\R\win-library\3.6/00LOCK’`
@UlrikeFischer We've tried deleting the listed file form the cmd window but that didn't seem to help. I don't know enough about windows any more to figure out how to solve this.
 
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21:53
@AlanMunn Is that the full error for sure? Reason why I ask: the file name it suggests should be removed looks super weird
Looks like it's the right file, huh. See: stackoverflow.com/questions/66897935/…
https://community.rstudio.com/t/problems-with-the-updates-in-some-packages/55986

Reading the above suggests you should try opening a console/terminal/powershell/command-line (whatever you want to call it) with administrative powers
typically this is done as follows: learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/scripting/…

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