@JosephWright What is wrong in the article title?

@samcarter I can't see the comment, even from other people... Not sure if some deletion happened, anyway if a mod sees this please delete them, I get the closure now!

@UlrikeFischer github.com/drehscheibe/soul/issues/4#event-5565088811

@barbarabeeton Respecting other traditions and peoples is a good thing. But of course, you already know that.

Hello. How can I typeset the following:

@Later tex.stackexchange.com/questions/231322/… ?

...and tex.stackexchange.com/questions/479/lowercase-mathcal

breakfast just arrived

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@DavidCarlisle just finished my first class today, perfect moment for a coffee

@Later like this ? 𝒩ℯℊ(𝓍₁,𝓍₂)

Benefit of having @Werner as a mod: started the day with only one flag to handle :)

@JosephWright Ah, the benefits of living in a round world...

@Rmano @DavidCarlisle Thanks. I think I found a similar font.

@Later I didn't specify any font there, just used the unicode math script block, as understood by unicode-math for example

@Later Use the Calligra package.

@DavidCarlisle I cannot use the Calligra font in math environments. What should I do?

I need to use such a font in math environments.

@Later you should really prepare a mini-example. For operators, could this: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/604315/… help?

@Rmano Thanks. I found a solution: I should write "\DeclareMathAlphabet{\mathcalligra}{T1}{calligra}{m}{n}" in the preamble.

@Later the standard way would be to use unicode-math then \symbf{Neg} would give you 𝒩ℯℊ by default using latin modern but you can specify other fonts using the package commands

@samcarter but removed from texlive...

@DavidCarlisle yes, saw the messages. Let's hope it comes back with another name

@samcarter zzzz.sty has no clashes, I just checked

@DavidCarlisle :D

@DavidCarlisle You mean the package "unicode-math"?

@Later yes

and \symscr not \symbf as I wrote above

It works with pdflatex?

@Later no although you could use the stix2 package which also has lower case script so \mathscr{Neg} would work with \usepackage{stix2}

@DavidCarlisle It works with pdflatex?

@Later There is an easy way to find out if it works

@Later yes that's why I suggested it

Unfortunately, I cannot have access to that package.

@Later why not? or you could use the older stix package which does the same thing

@DavidCarlisle I loaded the stix package, but it destroyed many parts of my document; it seems that it is not compatible with ams packages.

@Later it is of course compatible with ams packages, but it does change all the math fonts to use stix font

But it deformed many parts of my document badly. By the way, I use the amsbook template.

For example, without the stix package:

And with the stix package:

you can't possibly have got that without some error message? but anyway if you want any more than random guesses make a proper example and post a question with a test document on the main site.

@Later you could try \usepackage[notext]{stix}, but without a small complete example it is very difficult to guess your font setup.

Hello! I have a question: I would like to use lstlisting in order to do some syntax highlighting on code and I wondered if it were possible to highlight brackets, square brackets as any other keywords? :) I am just asking here in case someone knows, I'll make a post otherwise

@DavidCarlisle No error message.

@UlrikeFischer Yes, thanks. It resolved the problem.

@DavidCarlisle Yes, it works. However, I think the Calligra font seems better.

@UlrikeFischer Tagged PDFs came up at work: I might be after you to sort out some exams :)

@JosephWright aha. In 12 pt Arial?

@UlrikeFischer Was just talking to our chair of examiners - we are using Segoe UI in chemistry (we have for many years)

@UlrikeFischer I mean I might have to use tagpdf for actual work ;)

In case anyone would like to play a quick beamer game: github.com/samcarter/guessBeamer (cc @barbarabeeton @PauloCereda @UlrikeFischer @CarLaTeX or whoever is interested)

@samcarter ooh I know, it's the street

@PauloCereda :)

I found a post which helped me. Sorry for bothering with my question. Have a nice day everyone!

@JosephWright that would interesting and useful.

@UlrikeFischer I'm going to see if I can get some examples

Annoyingly people post the same answers to tex.stackexchange.com/questions/26972/… and tex.stackexchange.com/questions/24235/… even though they're two different questions (so you can't just close them as duplicate)

@user202729 they could still be merged if that's useful or if merging or closing as dup isn't suitable then having the same answers seems natural rather than annoying? (we tend to close as dup if answer would be the same even if thequestion is rather different, but you can't always recognise that at the time and answering doesn't really hurt) eg loads of questions that have an answer "you omitted \makeatletter" have been closed as a dup of teh "what is \makeatletter" question

@PauloCereda cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de/images/…

Okay then, someone please merge

Actually

Any answer to the latter is an answer to the former, but an answer to the former (WYSIWYG for tikz) is not necessarily an answer to the latter (assist in generating graphics)

Actually merge may not be a good idea, because people won't be able to search for the old one (the old one does not appear in search engine's results)

@user202729 No? You can have tools to output picture mode etc., this would not be a valid answer for tikz

@user202729 as I say having two sets of answers isn't that bad, one question is a superset of the other in that case as one asks for general graphics and one just for tikz.

@samcarter Ah right...

Wait, in that case wouldn't any tool for generating graphics at all be a valid answer to the "generate graphics" question?

Because TeX can include all formats of graphics anyway

@user202729 not every graphic is tex code. The questions is about graphics done in latex and friends

@user202729 ... and no, there are enough formats which tex can't include

@user202729 that would be a valid answer to that question yes (for some definition of "any") latex+dvips can't include png for example (although you could convert a png to something it could include)

@user202729 just to be nitpicking: Not every graphics format :)

Unrelated to that issue...

Actually, okay, being able to export to LaTeX may have the advantage of making the font consistent and that

@user202729 some pdf viewers have a preview feature build in, e.g. texstudio (the preview was surprisingly hard to disable...)

Yes I figured out how to do it reasonably quickly, I'm asking what people think about the feature

... unfortunately "reasonably quickly" still mean "2-5 seconds". For using it as draft paper it's terribly inefficient

@user202729 why does it annoy you? These are two different questions where the answers have some overlap. That can happen.

@UlrikeFischer Somewhat, although I realize that I mistook it backward so it isn't really a problem.

Because the tools with "export to LaTeX" only aren't valid answer to the WYSIWYG answer anyway

Otherwise what I (would) complain is answers are fragmented and some answers in one is missing in another

@user202729 If it annoys you that answers are missing, you can easily remedy that

@user202729 do it better.

It doesn't feel like a good thing to just copy other people's answer to post to an almost-identical question, even with attribution

(although not in this case. They're not applicable anyway)

@user202729 I have never found it that useful makes people look at the output too much.

@user202729 as discussed above merging has real chance of losing information and any reasonable search will turn up both posts so unless there is very good reason it's usually best to let old posts stay as they are. I can't see why you find it annoying

@user202729 surely the point of a real time preview is that you don't have to wait for it, you just type in the source view and the preview updates as and when it can.

@DavidCarlisle who cares for the output, as long as the .log file looks fine?

@samcarter if you want to check the output, add \showoutput that's what I normally do.

@samcarter ooh

@barbarabeeton ^^ ooh

@PauloCereda :)

@yo' cappys :)

@PauloCereda perfect!

@samcarter ooh twitter.com/shouldhaveaduck/status/1452718279701663746

@PauloCereda ohh!

@PauloCereda interesting design for the gun sight

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@samcarter I don't recognize anything!

@CarLaTeX :) it is not so much about recognising, just guessing based on architecture or how things look like. Maybe try to guess the country or the continent instead.

@CarLaTeX two were easy because of the street names ...

@UlrikeFischer ooh

@samcarter youtube.com/watch?v=aZ3QC8e1_yg

@PauloCereda ohh :)

@JosephWright ...eager beaver...

@Werner ooh a beaver that drinks beer is a beerver

ooh

@PauloCereda I fear what a bearver can be

@PhelypeOleinik ooh a beaver and a bear

any texmaker users around? How do you use latex-dvips-ps2pdf?

@DavidCarlisle they seem to have solved it. There is a comment at the end of the question

@UlrikeFischer yes seems that way we should blame @AlanMunn for linguistics questions

@DavidCarlisle eek! That's some ancient linguistics package being used there.

@AlanMunn along with pstricks and \bf it had a warm old-time feel to it:-)

@DavidCarlisle Indeed. I've added a comment pointing them to more up-to-date methods.

@JosephWright There was a comment by gusbrs under this answer, and it disappeared. Can you find out what happened?

@PhelypeOleinik I deleted it ;)

@JosephWright Ah, ok :) I thought it was a bug in the site

@PhelypeOleinik Hola!!!, after a while in this community I have realized that if you run into a bug, it is surely the blame of @UlrikeFischer :D

@JosephWright I thought it was a bug in my head. But why?

@PabloGonzálezL Hello! Long time no see write :)

@PhelypeOleinik Busy with classes with real people :D

@PabloGonzálezL I didn't know she was the network-wide blame taker :)

@PabloGonzálezL I hope the online classes were not with fake people! ;-)

@PhelypeOleinik I think Y2K was also his fault

@PabloGonzálezL :)

@PhelypeOleinik The truth is that after a year, I think he was just talking to himself...it was very sad :(

@PhelypeOleinik How have you been? .... don't tell me you plan to change the name of hooks again :p

@PabloGonzálezL I'm doing fine! Adapting to a new job, and trying to contain myself from renaming things :)

@PhelypeOleinik Eso es genial :D , here I am waiting not to be called for the elections (in my country they have become a habit).

@PabloGonzálezL One must love a wasted sunday sitting on a chair in a closed room :)

@PhelypeOleinik And at the rate they are going, we will have a second round in December ...another lost Sunday :(

@PabloGonzálezL Such fun!

@PhelypeOleinik :(

@PhelypeOleinik I think to kill time that Sunday, I'll write you a couple of emails (I know you enjoy email bombardment :)

@JosephWright It had been flagged? Understood. Still I'm surprised someone would go out of their way to flag a comment which was two liner "being nice" and not really off-topic...

@PabloGonzálezL oh no ;)

@PhelypeOleinik jejejje

@gusbrs Maybe someone coming over from another site? On some sites every comment which is not absolutely necessary gets flagged.

@samcarter I'm aware. I just got surprised, since that's not the usual around here. Perhaps I was just unlucky.

@samcarter I updated and came across the tikz-among-us package and I had a question.... do you have any tikz-among-duck style drawings :D?

Is \AtBeginEnvironment now part of the kernel?

@AlanMunn Yes

@PhelypeOleinik Thanks

@PabloGonzálezL No, there are no tikz-among-ducks, I could never compete with this brilliant package :)

@samcarter Ohh :D

@PabloGonzálezL his?

@PauloCereda -- Ooh! Very cute! (Nice fat capy.)

@UlrikeFischer Either the mysterious male Ulrike who seems to crop up from time to time in others minds or perhaps extending the Romance possessive pronoun agreement pattern to English, although that would require assuming that 'fault' was masculine. :)

@UlrikeFischer I blame @UlrikeFischer for having a name that doesn't translate well.

@AlanMunn @StefanKottwitz @JosephWright @Werner I wanted to offer my sincere congratulations to the new moderator Werner on his election. At the same time I would like to send a warm greeting to those who were candidates but were not elected. I would also like to thank Martin for his excellent work during these years. Best wishes for all of you and happy LaTeX.

@Sebastiano Thanks @Sebastiano.

@Werner :-) :-)

@DavidCarlisle about the YAP business: YAP has two rendering methods, one the normal dvi + pk-fonts, and the other which uses dvips +ghostscript. The first is called Pk:

@UlrikeFischer and it uses type1 fonts with dvips, or still uses pk?

@DavidCarlisle type1 fonts as far as I remember. That is a standard dvips + gs rendering.