@barbarabeeton speaking of concerts, How a team of musicologists and computer scientists butchered completed Beethoven’s unfinished 10th Symphony: theconversation.com/…
@DavidCarlisle I'm not sure what you mean. I want it to return an error if the command being called by \immediate\write18 errors out. And I want it to return the specific error message too.
@DavidCarlisle Sorry, I again don't follow. I know that \immediate\write18{cmd} executes cmd, hopefully. But beyond that I don't know what it does. And AFAIK it does the same thing in LuaTeX and PDFTeX. Specifically, Lua is not involved.
@FaheemMitha \immediate\write18{cmd} executes cmd, No. By default it will just write the text to the file associated with stream 18 or to the terminal if there is no such file.
@FaheemMitha in pdftex there are only 16 write streams and 18 is a magic number that triggers executing a command in the shell. In luatex there are 256 write streams and stream 18 is just a normal one of them.
@FaheemMitha if you use the shellesc package then in luatex \write is redefined to be If 18 ignore \immedidiate` and do \directlua{os.execute(..)}` else do the primitive \write` so \immediate\write18 is partially supported but only as a shim to call Lua os.execute
@FaheemMitha you can do that in the command you call out to, redirect stderr to a temporary file and return that instead of as well as stdout in the case of error.
@samcarter As I understand it, the way ads are done this year, deleting from meta won't help: they took a snapshot of the answers and those are now a fixed set of ads for the year
@JosephWright The problem seems to be that previous years ads are shown as well as this years ads. Staff on main meta advised to flag outdated ads for the local mods to delete.
Journal uses a style guide (.sty file) together with the sample template (.tex file). I uploaded both in the same folder before compiling, but it popped out 2 errors. mmp.susu.ru/page/en/requirements (see sample.tex and vestnik.sty) — Dovini Jayasinghe1 hour ago
@PauloCereda -- Interesting indeed, thanks. The bit of the result that was linked sounds plausible, but doesn't quite have the "presence" of the 5th or 9th. More like the 2nd -- pleasing, but not great. On the other hand, maybe it's a bit out of the middle. Have to wait for October 9.
@samcarter -- Thanks. (Some nice person had already replaced the TUG 2021 ad in the 2020 ads by the TUG logo.. That was after a temporary(?) disappearance of that lot during which it was impossible to check.) I think the new diktat makes this "feature" much less useful for us. I'd be happy if they simply did away with all ads.
@yo' -- In U.S. spelling it's "curb", but pronounced the same. The way you use "sidewalk" here makes sense to me -- sometimes there isn't any separation (other than a curb) between where pedestrians are supposed to walk and the roadway (where they aren't supposed to walk). "Pavement" in the U.S. can mean either the road surface or a paved sidewalk; usage is regional.
@barbarabeeton Well of course outside the US, people are allowed to walk on the road (public highway) in the main, even if there is an area reserved for their convenience :)
@JosephWright -- Walking in the roadway is permitted where there is no sidewalk, but it's pretty dangerous, and if something happens, I'm inclined to believe that more sympathy will be given to the motorist these days. (But about 40-50 years ago, when a 3-year-old ran out between two parked cars and bashed into the side of my sister's car, she got a ticket and the child's parent didn't even get a scolding.)
@DavidCarlisle -- Just please wear something light colored or reflective. When we're driving in the evening, it gets really hard to identify stationary objects, including people. Have to watch carefully for movement. And in the university neighborhood, where streets are narrow and parked cars leave barely enough room to get through, it's especially bad, now that the quarantine is lifted.
@barbarabeeton just as likely to meet a horse as a car, it's a side road of the village and the village itself has no through road, so "busy" means "a car passed"
@DavidCarlisle -- I haven't seen a horse in Providence for months. There *is" a mounted police command, but there hasn't been much call for their presence lately.
@HenriMenke someone will have to write a tutorial ;-)
@DavidCarlisle well I'm currently in the "throw away" mood (we will be moving at the end of the year to another town and I'm trying to get rid of all the stuff we don't need ...)
@JosephWright works for me (the https connection) I chose not to install any of the clients though so can't actually use it (there doesn't seem to be a web interface:(
@UlrikeFischer oh is that the element thing? I thought all the offered clients were standalone clients (but I didn't go past the initial menu offerening a lost of clients)
@AlanMunn -- Not in Providence, and I can't think of that much open space in Providence, although about 15 minutes in the proper direction, ... Are you riding? That seems to be the perspective.
@AlanMunn -- That's a great way to spend time in pleasant weather. (My best riding is done on merry-go-rounds. When I've tried it on actual beasts, they've always wanted to stop and eat the local shrubbery.)