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12:29 AM
@barbarabeeton no I get a spelling error in uk dictionaries but tex gives pa-ram-e-ter-ized which is a surprising number of - so I just added as many of those as seemed to fit.
@barbarabeeton good night:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle -- I just hope the poor soul you suggested it to didn't take it too literally. G'night to you too.
 
 
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7:06 AM
Fun, when I look to this tex.stackexchange.com/q/553619/38080 chrome suggests to translate from Vietnamese... ;-)... Too many accents?
 
 
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8:09 AM
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8:28 AM
@barbarabeeton my suggestion was more or less compatible with the default hyphenation of pa-ram-e-ter-ized (which admittedly has more hyphenation points than I'd expect) if you take that and just drop the e for the variant spelling you get pa-ram-e-tr-ized which is same as I said last night plus one extra.
@UlrikeFischer shame about the duck
 
@DavidCarlisle golden bears would too much look like some buddha ...
@MarcelKrüger the libertinus fonts lose small caps when mode=base is used in tl2020 (in tl2019 it works). It looks like an error in the fonts as other fonts works fine. Do you have an idea what's going on here?
\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}
\font\test{file:LibertinusSerif-Regular.otf:mode=base;+smcp;} \test  AaBb %doesn't work in 2020
\font\test{file:LibertinusSerif-Regular.otf:mode=node;+smcp;} \test  AaBb

\font\test{file:texgyretermes-regular.otf:mode=base;+smcp;} \test  AaBb
\font\test{file:texgyretermes-regular.otf:mode=node;+smcp;} \test  AaBb

\end{document}
 
8:54 AM
@DavidCarlisle How are the latexcgi.xyz stats looking?
 
@DavidCarlisle in the error lesson the errors are no longer red :-((
 
@manooooh You are using columns and column inside an environment for which you changed the default overlay specification to [<+->], so each of the will only show after an additional overlay.
\documentclass{beamer}

\begin{document}

\begin{frame}
\begin{block}{}
Text here

\begin{onlyenv}<2-4>
\begin{enumerate}[<+->]
\item Text
\pause
\begin{enumerate}[<+->]
\item Some text
\item More text
\end{enumerate}
\end{enumerate}
\end{onlyenv}

\begin{onlyenv}<5-17>
\begin{enumerate}[<+->]
\setcounter{enumi}{1}
\item More text
\begin{columns}<.->[T]
\begin{column}<.->{.5\linewidth}
\begin{itemize}[<+->]
\item $n=0$:

\uncover<+->{
Some graph here
}

\uncover<+->{$x_0$.}
\end{itemize}
\end{column}
 
@JosephWright about the same:
Wed Jul 15 08:53:36 UTC 2020
  Number of distinct users:     4
  Number of document requests:  5
  Number of documents returned: 4
  Number of unique user agents: 4
Tue Jul 14 23:58:17 UTC 2020
  Number of distinct users:     11
  Number of document requests:  53
  Number of documents returned: 36
  Number of unique user agents: 12
Sun Jul  5 23:56:04 UTC 2020
  Number of distinct users:     5
  Number of document requests:  68
  Number of documents returned: 66
  Number of unique user agents: 7
 
@DavidCarlisle OK, so not too much traffic
@DavidCarlisle I asked as a private browser window search for learn latex online does now have us on page 1 (though toward the bottom of the page)
 
@UlrikeFischer yes the price of progress. some mis-matched brackets get picked up. To get that to work I disabled all highlighting and added the colour "by hand" as the edit button just removed all formatting it ended up looking more or less the same, that would still work but then editing would be completely different to other examples, so it had to go
 
8:57 AM
@manooooh (if you are doing such complicate nesting of different things, it would probably be much easier to just manually specify which items should be shown on which overlays)
 
@DavidCarlisle We are #1 on DuckDuckGo for learn latex online :)
 
@UlrikeFischer it might be possible to at least make it pre-selected using the javascript API to the editor not sure.
 
@DavidCarlisle, @UlrikeFischer I'd appreciate thoughts on the question of a beamer lesson
@DavidCarlisle I think it's looking pretty good
 
@DavidCarlisle perhaps one could add some comment on the line below with ^^^ pointing to the error?
@JosephWright perhaps one could add an example under the "further study" section?
 
@UlrikeFischer Already have that :)
 
9:02 AM
hm, I'm copying my self.
 
@JosephWright I meant this here learnlatex.org/en/extra-01
 
@UlrikeFischer :)
 
9:21 AM
@DavidCarlisle I see Mozilla are providing a lot of the stuff we are using :)
 
9:35 AM
@Rmano does the latest version of circuitikz use a temporary coordinate named tmp for its voltage arrow placement? I just wanted to note that this is a stupid name choice and should be replaced by something like ctikz:tmp or similar (I wouldn't expect my formerly working circuits break because the coordinate tmp is no longer user-available). (sorry, if this sounds harsh, it isn't meant to -- maybe I should've avoided the word "stupid"...)
 
@JosephWright yes:-)
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz if it uses it, it's a bug. All the nodes should be pgfcirc@ and something, unless there is a name so that they are exported with name-something. I will check, but if you have an example it will be faster. I discovered only relatively recently that all node names in TikZ are global, so it can be...
AAARGGH I found it
You can blame me
Try the following
 
\documentclass[border=3.14]{standalone}

\usepackage{circuitikz}


\begin{document}
\begin{circuitikz}
  \draw
    (0,0)coordinate(O)
    (2,2)node[op amp](op){}
    (op.+)
    ++(-.5,0)coordinate(tmp)
    (tmp|-O)
    node[rground]{}
      to[voltage source,v<=$U_{\mathrm{OS}}$]
    (tmp)
      to[short]
    (op.+)
    ;
\end{circuitikz}
\end{document}
 
\makeatletter
\def\pgfcirc@swap@coordinates#1#2{%
    coordinate (pgfcirc@tmp) at (#1)
    coordinate (#1) at (#2)
    coordinate (#2) at (pgfcirc@tmp)
}
\makeatother
 
@JosephWright @UlrikeFischer I should probably make an issue but the version of pdf.s I'm using doesn't work in IE (you just get the black frame but no content) issue is this stackoverflow.com/a/60809357/1158383 I think I could host both versions (but space getting a bit tight) or as IE has a perfectly good pdf reader I'm thinking of defaulting %!TEX pdf behaviour on IE so the built in reader is used unless you explicitly ask for something different.
 
9:43 AM
Please try this ^^^ in the preamble
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz ^^
 
@Rmano yep, fixes it.
 
Ok. Will try to rush a release between an exam review and the other.
 
@DavidCarlisle sound ok for me (but I never use IE ;-))
 
@Rmano thank you for being this responsive!
 
@UlrikeFischer neither do I but I was testing the editor (which worked) then noticed the output didn't show :(
@UlrikeFischer you need to think of Phil still using Windows 7 ....
 
9:49 AM
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz You're welcome. It's semi-proactive technical support. (BTW, I received the famous Microsoft tech service scam this morning (support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4013405/…), used it to practice a bit of English ;-), then they noticed it...
 
@Rmano imho, TikZ should provide means to define coordinates locally (this would ease the creation of pics or nodes drastically) (maybe this is already possible and I just don't know it, because my TikZ foo is so limited.)
 
You can use name prefix --- see tex.stackexchange.com/questions/459492/…
But it does not apply easily to low-level code
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz
 
@Rmano well, that's not local, that's just a faster way to do pgfcirc@<name> for every coordinate... Still doesn't allow proper nesting :(
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz exactly
 
10:05 AM
@UlrikeFischer done (tests for Symbol being defined) which should catch any old javascript systems not just IE.
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz I don't think that this is easy. Coordinates need sometimes to be written to aux-file (for remember picture), and you often want to use them outside some scope.
 
@UlrikeFischer then let me rephrase: There should be an equivalent of a coordinate that is only valid for the current scope. This way you could easily create pictures or node specifications that can use any coordinate name (the local ones) without having to fear breaking some user code which happens to use a coordinate with the same name.
 
@DavidCarlisle It's all looking amazing: it's already much more polished than I thought we could manage on our own
 
@JosephWright I seem to have picked up a bit of javascript over the years:-)
 
I'm really thinking about alias vf=cd...
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10:15 AM
@DavidCarlisle Looks that way
 
10:30 AM
@UlrikeFischer Some precomposed accented letters, like U+0101, don't have accented small caps glyphs in libertinus, therefore they are decomposed in the smcp feature into the combining accent and the small caps base glyph. Therefore smcp uses a gsub_multiple instead of gsub_single lookup in these fonts. gsub_multiple can't be represented in base mode.
 
@MarcelKrüger why did it work in texlive 2019? Did the font change?
 
@UlrikeFischer Yes, the TeXLive 2019 version used gsub_single.
 
@MarcelKrüger ah, and I see that small caps for U+0101 didn't work there.
 
@UlrikeFischer Why do you want to use that in base mode anyway?
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz github.com/circuitikz/circuitikz/pull/423 will release 1.2.2 today I hope
 
10:38 AM
@MarcelKrüger I don't. There was a question on a german list. The libertinus-otf package forces base mode (no idea why) and this broke the small caps and so I investigated.
 
11:11 AM
quack
 
11:24 AM
Hello everyone, here's a small question where I'm looking for pointers rather than full solutions (so I don't think it fits the main site):
I am using bibtex with the apalike style. It's perfect. I am looking for one small extension: put a link in each reference (either make the title clickable or add the link afterwards).
Requirements: (1) link must use the DOI when present (2) I don't want to have to modify the bibtex file to remove information that should not show, such as local links to PDFs, or additional URLs when a DOI was present anyway.
I know that there are several packages and systems to help with this, such as natbib, biblatex, etc. I know that I can also try to modify the bibtex style myself.
Question: Of the multiple possibilities, which is the shortest path to success? I hope to avoid having to spend too much with this.
Just looking for a pointer, I'll read up on how to do the details.
I don't have hard requirements on formatting, something reasonably similar to apalike (i.e. author-year citation, show full title in ref. list) is perfect
 
@Szabolcs I would say by far the simplest would be biblatex.
 
Thanks. I'll read up on it. I never used it before, I didn't even know if it was suitable for this task, so this is a very useful pointer :-)
 
11:45 AM
ooh the Mathematica bloke
Hi! o/
 
@Szabolcs I wouldn't use the apa style though as your base. Use the basic authoryear or ext-authoryear as your base. (See biblatex-ext documentation for details.)
 
@AlanMunn It was indeed quite easy, especially after you gave me the keyword authoryear. Now I just need to figure out how to get [ ... ] around the citation and it'll be done
Hi Paulo \o
 
@Szabolcs :)
 
@Szabolcs This would be easier to do with ext-authoryear
\DeclareOuterCiteDelims{parencite}{\bibopenbracket}{\bibclosebracket}
\DeclareInnerCiteDelims{textcite}{\bibopenbracket}{\bibclosebracket}
 
I noticed that the oldest question on Meta is from July 26, 2010 - so I guess the site must have its anniversary around this time?
I checked because I read meta.askubuntu.com/questions/19187/… on the Ubuntu sister site
 
11:55 AM
@Marijn ooh cake
 
@PauloCereda roast dinner
 
@DavidCarlisle oh no
 
I couldn't find an exact date, there are older questions on main but they seem to be migrated from Stack Overflow
 
There's some major weirdness. In the .bib file, I have this for the authors: Erd{\H{o}}s, P{\'a}l and Gallai, Tibor. But the citation looks like this (with ext-authoryear): P. Erdős and Gallai (I would have expected simply Erdős and Gallai). I keep looking at it and I can't understand why it includes that P. (in other two-author papers it does not). Is this behaviour expected @AlanMunn ?
 
@DavidCarlisle roast dinner with cake as dessert?
@Szabolcs biblatex has a "unique name" and "uniquelist" check. Do you have some other author with the same surname?
 
11:59 AM
@UlrikeFischer Yes, you are right. I do. And that author also has a first name starting with "P", so it doesn't really help :D
Anyway, not a huge deal
 
@Szabolcs it is configurable, try e.g. uniquename=false, check the docu for more options.
@Szabolcs and if you want to switch to biblatex: you can write the name in the bib as Erdős directly. biber handles this fine.
 
@UlrikeFischer Thanks, great tip! However, this is my first time with biblatex and I do not yet want to cut myself off from the possibility to re-use entires in this .bib file in plain-BibTeX projects.
Is there a reasonable straightforward way to do this with biblatex? --> Show the URL only if no DOI was present. Do not include URL when we have a DOI.
I'm sure there is some way, but if that way is not a one-liner, I'll take that as a no.
 
@Rmano why is defining new shapes so hard? :(
 
18
Q: Biblatex: use doi only if there is no URL

DrorIs there a way to insert a doi of an entry only in case it is missing a URL field? It happens a lot that the doi and URL are essentially the same, and inserting them both yields a redundancy. I am using biblatex with biber. PS: If you think this goal doesn't make sense please share your thoughts!

 
12:32 PM
This was really convenient. I don't think I'll use anything else than biblatex from now on.
 
@Szabolcs ooh
 
@Szabolcs It tends to have that effect on you. :)
 
12:48 PM
This is a bit hard to search for:
The default formatting seems to be "Some Title", In: Journal Name.
How do I get rid of the "In"?
Never mind. articlein=false
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz Yep, it's not straightforward, no. The need to use low-level pgf commands does not help, and having to do \expandafter tricks for series (numbered) anchors doesn't help either. After a while you get used to it...
 
@Marijn According to Area51, the private beta started on July 26, 2010 (at 19:00 UTC). The public beta started on August 2, 2010 (at 19:00 UTC too). It graduated on November 10, 2010.
 
Ok, so three memorable dates coming up in the near-ish future :)
 
1:20 PM
@Szabolcs Yes, a very weird decision for a default. But this is why the biblatex-ext styles are so nice. All the simple modifications you might need have been thought out already.
 
 
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2:47 PM
@JosephWright did you update etoolbox?
 
@UlrikeFischer Not yet: I was waiting to hear if anyone else had thoughts on the changes
 
@Rmano currently, I'm want to redefine the base shape of flipflop to have a dashed line at its horizontal centre. I already provided a european comparator as a logic gate, but that one was easy, just patching the \pgftext out of \pgfcircdeclareeurologicport and adding some draw instructions. Manipulating the basic flipflop shape to also have that dashed line seems harder (haven't really started yet)
 
@JosephWright it looked ok for me. And if were on ctan one could remove the hack from lthooks and test a bit in real.
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz Ins't easier to add it after positioning the node? There are plenty of anchors...
 
@Rmano it would be, but I want to define an alternate style, so that I can use that instead of the circuitikz defaults (just for myself and maybe a few colleagues). It would be cumbersome to add the line to each flipflop I want to use, better to once change the definition of the base shape of flipflops...
 
2:55 PM
@UlrikeFischer OK, give me 10 minutes
 
3:06 PM
@UlrikeFischer Update sent
 
@JosephWright you are so fast ;-)
 
@UlrikeFischer I'm on a work meeting where at present I have nothing to add
 
@Rmano ok, I somehow underestimated the things I have to do for the comparator to correctly work... The node version works, but the inline variant is always placed at the start of the path instead of at the centre :(
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz If you send some example I can try to help you.
 
\documentclass[border=3.14]{standalone}

\usepackage[european]{circuitikz}
\usepackage{etoolbox}

\makeatletter
%% settings for the comparator
\tikzset{comp port/.style={shape=european comp port}}
\ctikzset{tripoles/european comp port/origin/.initial=0}%
\ctikzset{tripoles/european comp port/width/.initial=1.4}
\ctikzset{tripoles/european comp port/not height/.initial=.3}
\ctikzset{tripoles/european comp port/not width/.initial=.8}
\ctikzset{tripoles/european comp port/height/.initial=.65}
\ctikzset{tripoles/european comp port/reserved/.initial=.6}
@Rmano ^^^^ thanks again for your time :)
 
3:34 PM
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz If you use this:
 
@DavidCarlisle -- Yes, I understand that, but "tr" isn't possible as ending a syllable in English, and syllabification is the basis for hyphenation. (Maybe @AlanMunn can explain this better than I can.)
 
\node [comp port](A) at(0,-2) {};
\node [circle, red, fill, inner sep=1pt] at (A.center){};
You'll see that you have a misplaced center (which is positioned at the midpath)
You have to remove the (repeated) line:
`\ctikzset{tripoles/european comp port/origin/.initial=0.8}`
 
@Rmano what a stupid mistake... I was searching through the code of \pgfcircdeclareeurologicport up and down to find what I misunderstood. Thank you very much!
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz You're welcome!
 
@barbarabeeton at 1 in the morning or whatever time it was such details are not important:-)
 
3:47 PM
@daleif -- Could you kindly comment to Paul Gaborit on the new answer to tex.stackexchange.com/a/553649 that I missed the "5" in the package name, but am unable to correct that because of a system problem. The suggestion to add the image should stand. (Looks like fontawesome needs to be obsoleted at CTAN.)
 
4:46 PM
@barbarabeeton @DavidCarlisle Well 'tr' is absolutely not a possible syllable ending in English. very roughly, syllables across languages obey a 'sonority hierarchy': sounds that are more vowel-like (lots of acoustic energy) have to be closer to the vowel of a syllable and sounds that are less vowel like (less acoustic energy) have to be further away. So this gives you nice mirror image effects in the clusters of consonants that can occur in a single syllable in English.
[tr] is a good beginning of a syllable, truck, but not a possible ending. Conversely, [rt] is a good ending of a syllable art (for those dialects that are rhotic) but not a good beginning. [r] is more sonorous than [t] and so must follow [t] in the beginning of a syllable but precede it in the end.
 
Is there a dashed equivalent for a \pgfpathmoveto{<point A>}\pgfpathlineto{<point B>}\pgfusepath{draw}?
Found it, \pgfsetdash should do the job.
 
5:05 PM
@barbarabeeton added a comment
 
@daleif -- Looks good.. Many thanks.
 
5:23 PM
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz notice that the dash property is for all the path --- so you want to \pgfusepath{draw} the non-dashed one, then \pgscope\pgfsetdash{}{}... \pgfusepath{draw}\endpgfscope (commenting because it did bite me...)
 
@Rmano \pgfscope already applied, but thanks for warning me :)
 
Yes --- and you have to stroke the path until that point, or it gets lost (I think).
 
@Rmano ^^^^ These are my results
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz nice
 
@Rmano wanna see the messy code?
%% new flipflop options
\newif\ifpgfcirc@flipflop@dashed\pgfcirc@flipflop@dashedtrue
\newif\ifpgfcirc@flipflop@wedge@stretch\pgfcirc@flipflop@wedge@stretchtrue
\ctikzset{multipoles/flipflop/dashed/.is if=pgfcirc@flipflop@dashed}
\ctikzset{multipoles/flipflop/clock wedge stretch/.is if=pgfcirc@flipflop@wedge@stretch}

%% stretch the wedges on flipflops
\patchcmd\pgf@circ@do@wedge@left
  {\fi}
  {\ifpgfcirc@flipflop@wedge@stretch\pgf@circ@res@temp=2\pgf@circ@res@temp\fi\fi}
  {\PackageInfo{skillmon}{applying wedge left patch A}}
 
5:30 PM
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz yes :) I mean, you should replicate the code of the diagram
 
@manooooh which diagram?
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz this image, they are almost the same
 
@manooooh I only show the changes from the original flipflops of circuitikz (the originals aren't included in that picture). If you use the code I just posted you can use the following in a circuitikz environment to get the image.
\begin{circuitikz}
  \draw
    (4,0)
    \foreach\x in{0,1}
      {
        ++(2,0)node[flipflop SR={td=R,c2=0,c5=\x}]{}
      }
    (4,-2.5)
    \foreach\x in{0,1}
      {
        ++(2,0)node[flipflop SR={td=R,clock wedge stretch=false,c5=\x}]{}
      }
    (4,-5)
    \foreach\x in{0,1}
      {
        ++(2,0)node[flipflop SR={td=R,c5=\x}]{}
      }
    ;
\end{circuitikz}
@manooooh they are all almost the same because they only show different options to the same base flipflop... The original flipflops of circuitikz look like this:
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz you have made a very nice and readable source code. Congrats!
They look consistent IMHO
How was your development about a new package or so? It was a while ago, in GitHub I remember
 
5:45 PM
@manooooh which one? I have released three packages this year (expkv, expkv-def and expkv-cs), they all went pretty well from my point of view. I started to work on quack with @cis, but currently he is pretty active on developping content (stroke order maps for Japanese letters), while I should be writing the parser, but it needs a lot more thought until I can really start writing anything, and I don't find the time right now.
(there is a working demo, which is more like a quick sketch of what I'd like the package to do, and the implementation might completely change)
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz I think it is first package. Good to know!
Well done in making a team, don't frustate! You have a long way until the full development of the parser, which is quite difficult. It is related to automatas, grammars and languages I guess
 
@manooooh well, currently the draft/sketch version can parse in Romaji (the usage of the Roman alphabet to write Japanese) and translate that to the two Japanese scripts Hiragana and Katakana (both are syllable scripts).
But it is really cumbersome to extend it something I'd like to ease (it builds upon pgfparser, which I rewrote earlier to have more features).
 
6:23 PM
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz Not messy at all, the user of \patchcmd is awesome!
 
@UlrikeFischer they are still not red but they are sort of highlighted again: learnlatex.org/vi/…
 
@DavidCarlisle Thankfully no need for URL encoding. :)
 
@PauloCereda Thật dá»… hiểu nếu không được mã hóa
 
@DavidCarlisle oh my, there's even a dot below the a.
 
6:39 PM
@PauloCereda it's a shame to waste all that inter-line space.
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh
 
7:16 PM
New L3 policy on meetings:
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7:31 PM
Hello everyone.. !
@PauloCereda I ran into an error recently, and its posted on the main site, tex.stackexchange.com/questions/553716/…
Please share your comments
 
7:49 PM
Hi everyone! I am using tikzpicture package to draw something and I have a part where I have:
\draw[fill=mycolor] (0,14.5) -- (15,14.5) -- (15,15) -- (0,15) -- cycle;
I have defined
\usepackage{color}
\definecolor{mycolor}{rgb}{x,y,z}
And now I want to make it transparent a little bit. What should I add to this definition?
I couldn't figure it out in the web in an hour, would be really happy if someone could help :)
 
@KonformistLiberal \draw[fill=mycolor, fill opacity=0.5] ..
 
@TorbjørnT. Thank you! But this still covers the other lines which goes into this rectangular...
 
@KonformistLiberal I don't want to guess at what you did, can you make a complete example?
 
@KonformistLiberal increase the opacity a bit, but are you sure the lines are there?
 
When I change opacity, nothing in the pdf changes actually
I tried it with different edge values (I assume it's between 0 and 1)
I am sure there are lines there because when I delete the color spec they come back
It's a 15x15 rectangular and I have columns like \draw (1.5,15) -- (1.5,0);
Maybe I need another package? I have only color
@TorbjørnT. complete example:
\begin{tikzpicture}
% rectangle
\draw (0,0) rectangle (5,5);

% colmun
\draw (1.5,5) -- (1.5,0);

% row
\draw [fill=red, fill opacity=0.5] (0,4.5) -- (5,4.5) -- (5,5) -- (0,5) -- cycle;
\end{tikzpicture}
 
8:08 PM
@KonformistLiberal I see the lines above the fill, but anyways, might be just as simple to just do the filling before you draw the lines.
 
@TorbjørnT. with the exact example that I send?
 
@KonformistLiberal Yes.
 
Okay I deleted the package transparent and now it magically works
I forgot to mention it
Thank you very much!
 
cis
8:20 PM
What I could use would be a tip as to which fonts I should continue to work on.

So far I have done everything on msyahei.ttf, because this font seemed the most complete (Kanjis ...).
In fact, there are different standard fonts.
A Mincho (handwriting-like) and a Gothic font (sans serif) with the same proportions would be practical. Then the stroke order anotations could be applied to both fonts.

Unfortunately I don't know enough about the Japanese fonts.
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz
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@all



If I say

\fontsize{57pt}{<x>}\selectfont


which value should be <x>?
 
@cis it depends on the font. For latin alphabet fonts it is usually between 1.1 and 1.3 times the font size (the default is {10}{12} in latex. But for Japanese I don't know; try 65 and see how it looks.
 
cis
Oha... I used sth. like

` \fontsize{57pt}{5pt}\selectfont `

until now... xD
@DavidCarlisle But so far I only needed a specific font size for the representation of single characters (no running text). So the mistake was probably not noticeable,
 
8:38 PM
@cis yes I was going to ask whether you really set paragraphs of text at that size. the second argument is the baselineskip to use when linebreaking paragraphs, if you don't set multiline paragraphs it isn't used, but still it makes more sense to make it at least as big as the font size
 
cis
9:11 PM
@MarcelKrüger @UlrikeFischer


You could combine what I did here:
One annotation per character.
It should be possible to put all the annotations in one character with different layers.
My question would now be how do I display only one of these layers in LaTeX.

So something like:

\symbol[layer=3]{12653}

Is that possible?
 
9:53 PM
@PauloCereda @JosephWright emacs keybindings on learnlatex.org yeh
 
@DavidCarlisle what does it mean? Can one use keyboard commands?
 
@UlrikeFischer yes the keybindngs for left right cut paste etc change, try control-, and it pops up a menu you can try out other colour themes and settings
 
@DavidCarlisle there is a theme called KatzenMilch ;-)
 
@UlrikeFischer yep
 
@DavidCarlisle Dracula is odd ...
 
10:07 PM
@UlrikeFischer has some useful keybindings, like selecting a group of lines and cntrl-/ toggles them as comment or not comment
 
@DavidCarlisle Dracula? or Emacs?
 
@UlrikeFischer the default keybinding (all themes)
 
@DavidCarlisle I haven't yet found the key. ctrl + what toggles? And can one make a theme permanent? Currently reloading changes back to the default.
 
@UlrikeFischer I don't think you can make it permanent currently I am explictly setting the textmate theme as I start each editor instance, However if we had user settings as in this issue github.com/learnlatex/learnlatex.github.io/issues/58 the editor theme could easily be set per user
 
@DavidCarlisle hello! Ace is like Visual Studio Code?
 
10:21 PM
@DavidCarlisle some of them works, but I didn't manage to toggle comments.
 
@UlrikeFischer ctrl-forward slash worked for me
 
@DavidCarlisle where is the forward slash on your keyboard?
 
@manooooh it's a pure javascript implementation of an editor used on lots of sites actually but in particular we have just enabled it at learnlatex.org/en/lesson-07
@UlrikeFischer under ?
 
@DavidCarlisle I have to use the key #.
 
@UlrikeFischer documented, or you pressed every key until something happened?
 
10:29 PM
@DavidCarlisle I pressed a few keys ...
 
@DavidCarlisle wow, amazing webpage!! Thanks for sharing it. Why the users would use LaTeX online instead of Overleaf, or vice versa? Which are the pros and cons?
 
@manooooh overleaf is overleaf but I wrote the latexcgi.xyz server behind the latex online button so naturally it's brilliant:-) actually the main thing is that overleaf has login/account details so you can save your work, come back to it later etc, but latex online button (which was using latexonline.cc but now uses latexcgi.xyz) renders the pdf directly in the page but has no account so if you edit anything it is lost if you move off the page, see learnlatex.org/en/help
@UlrikeFischer lucky it wasn't ctrl-z you'd never have found it
 
@DavidCarlisle there is something that I still don't understand: Is LaTeX online (learnlatex.org) full update? Does it support each package from Ctan?
 
@manooooh yes overleaf has a full texlive 2019 and latexcgi.xyz has a full texlive 2020 updated a couple of days ago
@manooooh try some of the packages on this page learnlatex.org/en/extra-01
 
10:48 PM
@manooooh add some error to one of the examples, the you get a log and can check the package versions. There is also some magic command % Tex!log or so.
 
@UlrikeFischer thanks, didn't pay attention
 
I think that's most users in a day so far:
Wed Jul 15 22:51:17 UTC 2020
  Number of distinct users:     13
  Number of document requests:  82
  Number of documents returned: 71
  Number of unique user agents: 13
 
@DavidCarlisle yes, I believe in you :) I found a limitation; there are code that can be compiled in Overleaf but not in LaTeX Online -- it's says "Form data too large"
 
@manooooh well I put some arbitrary limits to stop denial of service attacks, but if you have a reasonable example that is being cut off I might increase them (I guessed some numbers) but it's designed for small examples, not people running their thesis
 
@DavidCarlisle lol fine. I have pasted a presentation in beamer, just for testing purposes.
Another question: Every time code is compiled, does the page save the plain text of the code on its servers, or do you have no idea what was compiled / written?
 
10:59 PM
@manooooh actually that means the total size of the form data as received at latexcgi.xyz > 10000 bytes I could make it bigger, probably
 
@DavidCarlisle let me test with fewer lines
 
@manooooh the source is deleted before the pdf is returned so that's only there for a few seconds the pdf (or log in the case of an error) is there for longer but any files older than an hour are deleted
 
I realized that \includegraphics would not work
@DavidCarlisle ok. Just to be clear: For an hour you can access every source code put on the page, right?
 
11:17 PM
@manooooh no, source code just for a few seconds, result pdf for about an hour
@manooooh I could technically allow image upload but there are security issues with allowing binary files and for examples you can use example-image so currently I don't.
 
11:31 PM
Thanks for the helpful info
@DavidCarlisle to what stack you send the data when you use push in this portion of code?: github.com/davidcarlisle/latexcgi/blob/master/perl/latexcgi#L72 Just curious :)
Also, why you use two separated if conditionals when you can combine them in one sentence with && (AND operator)?: github.com/davidcarlisle/latexcgi/blob/master/js/… Sorry for this silly questions, I love your code because it is quite understandable to me
 

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