TeX, LaTeX and Friends

G. Bay

00:05

Dam, i can't solve a answer completely, is it worth posting anyway and leave it to the community? (its about tcolorbox raster)

marmot

@G.Bay Nobody can solve answers. (Just kidding! ;-)

G. Bay

lmao

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Q: Ideas to recreate this using latex

I'd like to create a Latex template similar to the one on the picture. Basically it's a set of boxes with different fields plus the big box on the bottom with a graphic. I've been analysing several possibilities, but I'm unsure as to the simplest approach would be. I'm thinking of using minipag...

its kind of complicated, I am not experiment with raster tcolorbox

marmot

@G.Bay I guess it is complicated regardless of the approach you are using. The OP did not do much. You will end up punching all things in, and when you're done, someone else will come, copy your code, use a tiny bit different gray, and get all the credits. (Now I am unfortunately not sure if I am kidding...)

G. Bay

@marmot I am having a hard time making the raster expand two rows

marmot

00:36

@G.Bay I am sorry, I have almost zero experience with tcolorbox.

@G.Bay I am also not sure if I would not use a different route (as I said, I am more or less clueless what tcolorbox can achieve). To me it seems that one could use tikz with positioning and fit for that.

@DavidCarlisle I think you must be very jealous. ;-)

Henri Menke

02:50

@samcarter Your pull-request will only be incorporated after the bugfix release.

@JosephWright Great, now please fix math typesetting so that XeTeX actually becomes usable.

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CarLaTeX

04:17

@Skillmon Also to you! In my case the prize should go to @samcarter!

samcarter

08:19

@HenriMenke OK, thanks for letting me know!

@CarLaTeX I should not have chosen the pretty sweater competition - I had no chance against such a designer piece like the sweater from @DavidCarlisle :)

Paulo Cereda

> Some Hummingbird Beaks Are Better Suited for Combat Than Nectar Feeding

L3 TEAM, TO VICTORY!

CarLaTeX

08:40

@samcarter Of course, that level of beauty is unreachable!

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@PauloCereda Sounds a bit like psmith. Actually, we haven't heard from him for a while. Is he on vacation?

Paulo Cereda

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Oh I have bad news. SE changed some stuff behind the scene and broke Psmith's ability to log in. I need to check the code and talk to the bot framework maintainers and see what could be salvaged.

TeXnician

@PauloCereda Btw: TeXPrinter is also affected by some recent HTML structure changes ;)

Paulo Cereda

@TeXnician oh no

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@PauloCereda Hmm, too bad. Well, say hello and tell him we miss him.

TeXnician

08:51

@PauloCereda It was to be expected. Let's focus on something else :D

Paulo Cereda

09:02

@TeXnician ooh sounds like a secrety secret

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Thanks! :)

Many owners of emus in America simply abandoned them in 1998. As a result, there are mobs of feral emus in parts of Texas to this day https://econ.st/2CKg3N7

Tweeted by TheEconomist on January 3, 2019 at 7:57 AM

woo wild feral emus

Paulo Cereda

09:23

@TeXnician: my dad heard me saying Kotlin out loud and he said, "Kotlin Zeta-Jones?"

TeXnician

@PauloCereda Well, some names of programming languages are simply intended to sound strange ;)

Paulo Cereda

@TeXnician :)

TeXnician

@PauloCereda In Germany when you are saying Crayon some people will think of Krähen. On the other hand, if one says Java (nearly) everyone is thinking about these annoying update popups from that coffee cup software instead of the island…

Paulo Cereda

@TeXnician ooh

Ulrike Fischer

09:53

@JosephWright Can \quark_new:N \crampedtextstyle be sensible? (just found in the unicode-math code for xetex).

David Carlisle

@samcarter true, sorry.

Joseph Wright

10:08

@UlrikeFischer Not really

@UlrikeFischer Or at least, I'd need to look at the use cases

@HenriMenke Yeah, right ... I'm not looking to maintain XeTeX (also see the LuaHbTeX business)

Paulo Cereda

When your laptop suddenly loses resolve.conf info...

Ulrike Fischer

@JosephWright well xetex doesn't know \crampedXXX commands and it looks as if Will simply defined it for some comparision code, but it is a bit hard if one plays around (I was looking at Henris update to a xetex bug) and xetex suddenly loops if one use \crampedtextstyle. I will make a bug report.

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer Yeah, should be a \prg_do_nothing: equivalent, I'd imagine

Paulo Cereda

10:29

A dinosaur made of macros is a TeX-rex?

/ba dum tss

yo'

10:42

@PauloCereda tr XxT` gg

Paulo Cereda

@yo' ooh :)

yo'

Sorry, shitty phone

Andrea L.

Good morning (from Italy) everyone!

I have finally graduated with honours in ChemEng, with a thesis done under the beautiful program arara (so, a million thanks to @PauloCereda) that literally saved me a lot of time with automatic compilation sequences. I wouldn't have been sane if I had to manually compile my humongous bibliography and all the cross-refs.

Thanks also to all of you LaTeX friends, for all the advices I received from my High School little-thesis to my masters' thesis (which truly turned out as, as R.J. Drofnats would say, a beautiful document)

7

yo'

@PauloCereda tr "XxT" "gg "

egreg

@AndreaL. Congratulations!

samcarter

10:48

@AndreaL. Congratulations to your graduation!

Paulo Cereda

@AndreaL. Yay, congratulations!

Andrea L.

@egreg Thanks egreg! It is and has been a privilege to have your help

@samcarter Thanks!

TeXnician

@AndreaL. Congratulations. And feel free to add your beautiful document to tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1319/… :)

Andrea L.

@PauloCereda Many many many many thanks!

Paulo Cereda

@AndreaL. oh I did nothing, really. It's your motivation and dedication that made you achieve greatness! So congratulations! :)

samcarter

11:01

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@AndreaL. Let us celebrate with a confetti shower for you!

Andrea L.

@samcarter Aww, that's to sweet! Thanks

@TeXnician Welp, I have all the intentions to do so (but where should I post it?). I may have to ask permission to my supervisor, but there should be no problems

TeXnician

@AndreaL. You could do it like some of the other answer: Just post some pictures and maybe a minimal code sample.

Andrea L.

About the pictures, I'm proud to say that ALL of them were done in TikZ :)

My field was (or, is now) chemical reaction engineering, specifically chemical kinetics under the framework of stochastic processes. All the energy diagrams, reaction mechanisms and, in addition, automata diagrams, were available but not good enough. TikZ did a great job for all cases. I took some time to perfect them :)

So I have a fair amount of material I want to share

baxx

11:49

One : https://i.imgur.com/sbVFuCL.png

Two : https://i.imgur.com/8PTDNKa.png

I'm wondering how to make a large image in landscape, as when I enlage the image it seems to flip things back into portrait for reasons I don't understand

One there is the landscape, and two is the same code just with the width of the image enlarged a bit

This is the code that I used : vpaste.net/tVlRg

changing

\includegraphics[width=0.7\textwidth]{test.png}

to

\includegraphics[width=0.8\textwidth]{test.png}

will change the layout from image-one to image-two above

CarLaTeX

@alandella Contratulations! Italians do it better!

baxx

12:22

I put the above into a question tex.stackexchange.com/questions/468393/…

G. Bay

If anyone with skills on tcolorbox want to have a look... tex.stackexchange.com/questions/468067/…

@baxx If I remember correctly I used minipage to fix this issue, lemme check

daleif

@DavidCarlisle Found this is the class file from the other day:

\newlist{enotezlist}{itemize}{1}
\setlist[enotezlist,1]{leftmargin=*,label=\arabic*,labelsep=0.25em,itemsep=0pt,topsep=0.5\baselineskip}

anyone want to explain why this does not compile (enumitem might have changed since the class was released).

alandella

@CarLaTeX Thanks! I approve of the message ahahah

daleif

Why are they defining a list to be itemize and the give it numbers?

Joseph Wright

12:42

theshovel.com.au/2019/01/03/…

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@JosephWright The Australian analogue of the Onion?

Joseph Wright

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Looks that way

Paulo Cereda

13:25

@JosephWright ooh

David Carlisle

@baxx no:-)

daleif

15:14

Autch

The Journal of .... offers authors an Open Access option called OnlineOpen, to have their article immediately freely available to everyone, including those who don't subscribe. To cover the cost of publishing OnlineOpen, authors pay an article publication charge (APC) of $4300.

Christian Hupfer

@daleif That's very low priced. Any author should use this opportunity ;-)

daleif

@ChristianHupfer I'm just wondering, who chooses to pay that amount....

Joseph Wright

@daleif That's about typical

@daleif Comes from grants, e.g. library resources, specific allocation, ...

daleif

So 3 articles or a small car.

Christian Hupfer

@daleif Can anyone publish there, without review?

Paulo Cereda

15:30

Holy cow

daleif

@ChristianHupfer I don't think so, it seems to be a highly regarded journal which is why I removed the name.

Christian Hupfer

@daleif I thought it is something like the Journal of Everything, where conspiracy paranoiacs can publish their "theories", like flat earth etc ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer also the theory I have which is mine and belongs to me. :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda That't the worst theory ever

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer oh

@ChristianHupfer did you see this? youtube.com/watch?v=hKc_1gc1pLg

Christian Hupfer

15:35

@PauloCereda I don't dare to click on it...

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer do it, you will be surprised. :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda Three minutes of my life :D

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda Nice coughing :D

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer :D

marmot

16:24

@daleif I do not know any physicist who would be willing to pay this fee or even 5% of this fee.... Related

Christian Hupfer

17:28

@marmot No scientist etc. should pay for publications, regardless which science it is.

marmot

@ChristianHupfer I fully agree with that. (If you publish in PRL, you are requested to pay $500. Of course, "requested" means you do not have to do it, and I never did. Nevertheless, rumors say if you don't, they'll give you tougher referees next time. And the salary may, to a small extent, depend how many PRL's you have, so some may think twice...)

Paulo Cereda

In here the situation is complicated. In order to get my PhD validated, I need to publish on peer reviewed, high impact factor journals from a list. And the list only includes insanely expensive entities.

I once had to pay EUR700 for a publication.

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda This is legal robbery, I would say :-(

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer It is. :(

nbro

17:58

Hi guys!

I'm trying to include an social icon in my moderncv document class

I'm trying to add an social icon which points to my Stack Exchange account

I have looked around. There are complex solutions which use tikz

I was trying to use fontawesome...

But I'm not sure how to proceed also because I am getting some undefined control sequences

marmot

@nbro Ask a question on the main site. From the information you provided it is next-to-impossible to provide a meaningful answer unless one has a crystal ball, but they are rare these days.

nbro

I can't understand how you like LaTeX or Tex...

Joseph Wright

18:14

@nbro Import the image

nbro

I'm now getting the error "Undefined control sequence \Url" while attempting to do "\social[stackexchange][\url{my-url}]{nbro}"...

How patient do you need to be?

hyperref is already imported apparently, because, if I import it, I get the "clash" error

Ok, I don't want to lose more time on this. I will simply not put the social icon of my SE account.

Joseph Wright

@nbro \url and \Url are not the same

nbro

Indeed, I was using \url, not sure why it was complaining about \Url

Anyway, the moderncv class defines the social command here: github.com/xdanaux/moderncv/blob/master/moderncv.cls#L261

The author could also have defined it for Stack Exchange

The class is not updated since 2016

What class do you use for your CVs?

I like moderncv, but this is a small limitation, no maintaince

Ulrike Fischer

18:44

new "getting travis build working" round ;-(.

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer The Bär can help! <3

marmot

@PauloCereda Do you know what a Bärendienst is? ;-) (not quite bear service, I think)

Paulo Cereda

@marmot no idea

marmot

@PauloCereda I think it translates to something like disservice (No, that's not a service the tidies up your dissertation! ;-)

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda I'm not sure. He doesn't like to handle exact numbers - his line is more the large overview - and currently my problem is that travis shows a 16.74 where I have a 18.332 ;-(

marmot

18:56

@UlrikeFischer The explanation is very simple: 1+6+7+4=18=1+8+3+3+2. ;-)

Paulo Cereda

19:20

@UlrikeFischer oh

G. Bay

Is it possible to use lipsum to generate only a few lines? I tried \lipsum[0.5] for half paragraph but obviously didnt work

if thats complicated enough I will post a question :)

David Carlisle

19:54

@G.Bay not as far as I know but if you only want a few lines, why not simply write them?

G. Bay

Lazyness, lol

CarLaTeX

@G.Bay See here: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/462453/…

G. Bay

yeah I've seen that, not exactly what I want, but I will give it a try

Christian Hupfer

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We need this tag ;-)

Alan Munn

20:09

I'm very confused. I've copied some expl3 code exactly from a package, and just given it a different name. The renamed version gives an error but the code is identical.

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{istgame}
\usepackage{xparse}
\makeatletter
\NewDocumentCommand \istcntmx
{ t' O{\istdefault@grow} r() D(){0,0} O{black!25} G{} D+.{\cntmdefault@levdist}D.+{\cntmdefault@sibdist} }
{
    \IfBooleanTF {#1}
    {
        \istCntmRoot' [ #2 ] ( #3 ) ( #4 ) [ #5 ] + #7 .. #8 +
    }
    {
        \istCntmRoot [ #2 ] ( #3 ) ( #4 ) [ #5 ] + #7 .. #8 +
    }
}

\begin{document}
\begin{istgame}
\istcntm(0)
%\istcntmx(0)
\end{istgame}
\end{document}

Christian Hupfer

@marmot: Nope, I won't buy that 'shadow' record -- it is scratched ;-)

marmot

@ChristianHupfer Which "shadow" record? (BTW, we have "Shady Canyon" nearby. It is perfectly shady -- at night. ;-)

Christian Hupfer

@marmot Obviously you're no Monty Python addict, otherwise you would have caught the reference ;-) We need @PauloCereda and @JosephWright to explain it ...

marmot

@ChristianHupfer Hmmmh, not an addict, but know of course their standard works. (Wait, weren't they already old when even I was young? ;-)

Christian Hupfer

@marmot Well, I am 44 and I know them almost 30 years by now... now, they're old

marmot

20:21

@ChristianHupfer I am slightly older but know them only for 29 years ... somehow I associate them with the old video tapes ...

Christian Hupfer

@marmot Yes, I know what you mean... nowadays, there's DVD, youtube and I've got them on Netflix as well

marmot

@ChristianHupfer I actually don't do these things too much. I never had a TV, nor am I addicted to all these streams... Monty Python are more interesting than many others but if you have seen a few you can sort of predict the other sketches...

Christian Hupfer

@marmot It's some kind of recreation to have streaming at any time available. But it does not rule the life of my wife and myself.

marmot

@ChristianHupfer Maybe. Not so much for me, though.

Ulrike Fischer

@AlanMunn but the context not. The original definition is in a section with \ExplSyntaxOn, which mean that spaces don't count. If you add \ExplSyntaxOn/Off around your definition it works.

Christian Hupfer

20:33

@marmot: Returning to the cause of the 'discussion': I won't change my avatar just in order to take part in your competition...

David Carlisle

@AlanMunn white space?

Alan Munn

@UlrikeFischer Hmm. Ok. I had problems with that when redefining another command, since it has as tikz style with a space, and that space got gobbled.

marmot

@ChristianHupfer That's fine. But it does not have to be "your" avatar, just look at @Raaja's nice post.

Ulrike Fischer

@AlanMunn tikz and expl3 can be fun - I constantly add and remove ~ in keys ;-).

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer I've tried to make that easier

Alan Munn

20:37

@UlrikeFischer So we move from too many spaces to too few... :(

Christian Hupfer

@marmot Hm, I think I misread 'most beautiful avatar' as being the personal one ... and adding a shadow to it... but in the very end, my avatar is the most beautiful one -- there is no doubt about that ;-)

marmot

@ChristianHupfer Hmmmmh and what about @CarLaTeX or @samcarter's avatars, just to name a few rivals. (Yours does not look very realistic because it was not made with TikZ. ;-)

Alan Munn

@UlrikeFischer But thanks, that fixed it.

Christian Hupfer

@marmot Yes, I am living in an imaginery world without TikZ where paths are walked by feet and lines are drawn by hand and filled with pencils...

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Is it only my impression or is the number 1 in 20771 fainter than the other figures?

Harald Hanche-Olsen

20:54

@marmot Sorry, I've been away from the chat for a while … ↓↓

Bärendienst

Ein Bärendienst ist eine Handlung für jemanden/etwas, die in guter Absicht erfolgt und (trotzdem) schlechte Folgen für die Person/die Sache hat. Die zugehörige Redensart „jemandem/etwas einen Bärendienst erweisen“ dürfte eine ältere ost-, nord- und mitteleuropäische Metapher sein, weil der Bär bereits im Mittelalter als unzähmbar galt, sodass er als Arbeitstier untauglich schien. In der westlichen Welt könnte sie durch eine Fabel des französischen Dichters Jean de La Fontaine, veröffentlicht erstmals 1678, vermittelt worden sein. == La Fontaines Fabel == In L’ours et l’amateur des jardins (dt…

There is no English version of that wikipedia page, but there is an Italian one, a French one (of course), a Russian one, plus Norwegian, Swedish, and Danish.

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle how do one activate more language patterns on travis? My test failed because the german patterns wasn't there.

Harald Hanche-Olsen

The Norwegian word is Bjørnetjeneste. Among young people, who don't know the origin of the word, it has started to take on the opposite of its original meaning: A very big service.

I suppose words changing to mean the exact opposite of their original meaning is not new to @AlanMunn. A “risk”, for example, was not necessarily a bad thing in the old days. People could talk of a good risk, meaning a possibility of profiting greatly.

Raaja

@marmot talking about Tikz you are entering into a danger zone ;-) and a nice event btw.

David Carlisle

@UlrikeFischer in the setup script do tlmgr install collection-german ?

@UlrikeFischer are you using the system tex or do you install texlive directly? (it would be apt-get something in the first case)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle, @UlrikeFischer, @egreg Some interesting stuff from Christian Feuersanger on FPUs :)

Ulrike Fischer

21:04

@DavidCarlisle I have lots of tlmgr install lines so I guess tlmgr install collection-german is right. I will have to run a test.

David Carlisle

@JosephWright in mail?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Will forward

@DavidCarlisle Sent to team list

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer ooh phrasebook

marmot

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Interesting. I don't think in German it can mean "great service" but maybe I am just to old. ;-)

Ulrike Fischer

@JosephWright did you saw that Henri mentions random numbers in lua on the main site?

Paulo Cereda

21:19

Koma is Kohm Marcus WOW

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda did you think it stood for Leslie Lamport?

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle oh

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda Didn't you know that?

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer I had no idea, to be honest.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda Also Memoir is Peter Wilson

Paulo Cereda

21:32

@DavidCarlisle ooh

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer No?

Ulrike Fischer

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Q: TikZ graphdrawing differences between LuaTeX versions

What I will describe below is not yet a problem but will appear when TeX Live 2019 is released and LuaTeX will be upgraded to 1.09. MikTeX users might already experience this issue. When I typeset one of the graphdrawing examples from the TikZ manual, it appears mirrored between the LuaTeX ve...

tikz-pgf luatex

@DavidCarlisle it was tlmgr install collection-langgerman and then it worked.

David Carlisle

@UlrikeFischer sorry yes, that.

barbara beeton

21:47

@PauloCereda (and anyone else who fancies ducks) ... a new sport, duck curling: twitter.com/DickKingSmith/status/1080713855561596928?s=09

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer, @DavidCarlisle Had my third reply (after Christian and 'jfbu'): Eckhart of fltpoint replied :)

Christian Hupfer

@JosephWright Do you mean me?

Joseph Wright

@ChristianHupfer Nope, unless you are secretly Christian Feuersaenger :)

Christian Hupfer

@JosephWright Nope... I just remembered your recent mail about the upcoming expl3 deprecation (a.k.a. throwing away of good features ;-)) , so I thought you meant that.

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer They should have used \uniformdeviate ;)

Paulo Cereda

23:06

@barbarabeeton ooh duck curling!

@barbarabeeton love it, thank you! <3

Henri Menke

23:37

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A: A calligraphic "L"?, a certain symbol used in Abramowitz and Stegun

This letter is not an L but a Z. According to Detexify, you can typeset it using \usepackage{mathrsfs} \mathscr{Z}

Seriously? 20 upvotes for using Detexify?

Phelype Oleinik

@HenriMenke Not surprising. Once I got 28 for using \emph: tex.stackexchange.com/a/451247/134574 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

David Z

Well, I would say not so much for using emph, as for knowing about a relatively uncommon aspect of its usage.

(And for explaining it straightforwardly)

Ulrike Fischer

23:52

@HenriMenke my answer with most votes is a FAQ (literally). People upvote what they understand.

marmot

@HenriMenke I agree with what @UlrikeFischer is saying. Just look how many this one has. The IMHO real answer has 500 votes less. ;-)

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