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egreg

00:30

I have a monocle too.

David Carlisle

01:46

@egreg but such a low grade hat

Loop Space

07:21

@JosephWright By "locked the meta thread", I presume you're referring to the FAQ that I flagged on "Why can't we have maths rendering here?". Do you think I should edit it to make it clearer that that isn't the place for discussion, or do you think that your existing comment (together with the fact that it is locked) is sufficient?

Joseph Wright

07:50

@LoopSpace Locking prevents discussion entirely: I think that should do the job :)

parvin

hi

does any one know how i can go to next line and the line doesn't stick to the beginning of the page?

like this :
_______
.. _________
.... __________

Loop Space

@JosephWright Just wondered whether to make it clearer in the text that this was a description of the decision made early on and that it isn't going to change.

Joseph Wright

@LoopSpace I can unlock if you ant, but to me it seems clear that it's a statement of policy

Loop Space

@JosephWright Fine, let's leave it for now. If loads of "Can we haz maffs plz" questions suddenly appear then we can rephrase it later. Incidentally, I don't see a notification that it is locked and I can still edit the question and answer (though maybe that's because I'm the original author of both).

parvin

08:10

how can I use more than one space between the lines?

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Q: How to use line breaking without loosing spacing

Does any one know how I can go to next line saving the spacing? the two back slash doesn't work. Like : xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx Here's an example code: \SkillsEntry{Programming}{C\texttt{++}} \SkillsEntry{}{Web Front End \\ (HTML CSS)} the part (HTML CSS) goes to next line, sticking t...

Paulo Cereda

08:27

@LoopSpace: YAY, YOU ARE HERE

Loop Space

@PauloCereda Hey Paulo, thought I'd check in to be sure that no-one's having duck for Christmas dinner.

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Paulo Cereda

@LoopSpace ooh that's a relief. :)

Although @DavidCarlisle is quite naughty. :)

Loop Space

@PauloCereda It's alright; he's local so I've gone round and spiked all the ducks in the shops in the vicinity. If he has duck for dinner, he'll regret it.

Paulo Cereda

@LoopSpace ooh I like this plan. :) How are things, pal? We miss you!

Loop Space

@PauloCereda Good, but busy. Just recompiling all my lesson handouts for the past 12 months; bit tedious but needs doing.

Paulo Cereda

08:37

@LoopSpace Oh nice to hear!

Loop Space

@PauloCereda I still use LaTeX for everything. Tried writing an exam in MS Word a year or so ago and vowed never to do it again.

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Paulo Cereda

@LoopSpace Oh my! It always gives me the shivers when someone sends me a .doc/docx attachment... :)

Joseph Wright

09:18

@LoopSpace You get a choice?

@LoopSpace All of our exam papers have to be in Word so our support can edit/format and so they can be reviewed ...

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright boo

Loop Space

09:35

@JosephWright Not really. If I produce something that others use, I have to use a compatible format. So I do my best to avoid that if I can!

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@LoopSpace But but … is there any format more compatible than LaTeX?

@LoopSpace He'll probably just go out and shoot one himself.

Paulo Cereda

@HaraldHanche-Olsen oh no

He is mean

Loop Space

@HaraldHanche-Olsen We have slightly stricter laws in the UK. I still remember a Norwegian student trying to get out of doing homework because he was going to hunt moose.

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Paulo Cereda

@LoopSpace ooh I heard the swans are royal property. I hope ducks are safe too. :)

Joseph Wright

@LoopSpace :)

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Good luck getting most of your colleagues to edit a LaTeX file, compared to a Word one

@PauloCereda Just swans I'm afraid

Loop Space

09:50

@PauloCereda Ducks are more ... commoner. Probably more Harry and Meghan than Wills and Kate.

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright oh no

Loop Space

@JosephWright Ah, but @HaraldHanche-Olsen is in an enlightened department in an enlightened university. They even have a department class file for exams.

(Not that it'll be very light right now. 4hrs daylight? @HaraldHanche-Olsen)

Joseph Wright

@LoopSpace Exams are not departmental, though: they are a university-level thing (so edited, printed, etc. by the exam office)

Paulo Cereda

@LoopSpace it all makes work for the working man to do! :)

Loop Space

@JosephWright That's what I mean by an enlightened university. At Harald's university, exams are set at the department level.

The Lego Gasman Cometh

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Joseph Wright

09:53

@LoopSpace Not what I meant: the are owned by the university, and it's the latter which issues degrees and so owns them

Paulo Cereda

@LoopSpace OH MY YES

Loop Space

@JosephWright If I remember right (it has been a few years), the exams office at NTNU just wanted the PDFs.

Joseph Wright

@LoopSpace To be honest I don't see that part of the process, but I do see our support staff editing the Word files to get them looking right

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@LoopSpace … written by myself, in fact …

Paulo Cereda

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This is our song sheet for the Christmas mass, done in LaTeX. :)

Harald Hanche-Olsen

09:57

@LoopSpace Actually, four and a half hours. If you're willing to call it daylight when the sun is skimming the tree tops on the horizon at noon.

@LoopSpace And of course this was granted. I'd remember the ensuing national scandal otherwise.

Loop Space

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Err ... no. I did my stranger in a strange land look and said that I'd accept late submissions if accompanied by sufficient moose meat.

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@LoopSpace No, not even the PDFs. They want paper. They don't trust this newfangled digital world.

In some ways, that is wise: One still runs into compatibility problems with PDFs from time to time. It is much rarer now than it was a few years ago, though. There is nothing like having your formulas come out like some sort of hieroglyphs.

TeXnician

Does anyone know a dup or a good reason to close this: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/407162/…?

Loop Space

@TeXnician Tempting to close as "too localized". If we had a "How do I find out which debian/fedora/mint packages contain which tex packages?" then I'd close as a dup of that, but I don't think that question exists. We could always ask it now, though, as that might be a useful question.

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Ah, yes. Still, got to be careful with paper. I think moving away from carving the exams in stone was a bad idea. You know it'll last with stone.

TeXnician

10:14

@LoopSpace Seems to be a good idea. We really seem to miss that one.

@LoopSpace Do you want to ask it?

Joseph Wright

10:35

New Mac Mini set up in the living room at home

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright 'ooh

@JosephWright Is TL already installed? :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Not just yet ;)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Netflix and TeX. :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Updating macOS

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Last update is long. :(

Joseph Wright

10:37

@PauloCereda I know: had iMovie of 2.5 Gb, now doing about the same for the OS

@PauloCereda Works nicely

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Restarting now: we don't yet have fibre-to-the-cabinet at home, but the ADSL is pretty good

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright cool

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda We will get VSDL next time the contract gets renewed

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Can I steal your signal, please? :)

TeXnician

10:47

3

^^ nearly a palindrome ;)

Loop Space

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Q: How do I find out which Linux package contains which (La)TeX package?

I'm using (La)TeX as installed by my Linux/Unix distribution. I've come across a package that I don't have installed. How do I find out which Linux/Unix package contains that (La)TeX package? Notes: This is a public service question, please take that into account when answering. More than e...

packages installing linux

TeXnician

@LoopSpace Great thanks.

Loop Space

@TeXnician Right, now you can answer it and get all the rep!

Lembik

how can I "cross out" a quote like this? bpaste.net/show/79ac75d060fa . I want a large x to cross it out

Martin Scharrer

11:08

@LoopSpace I tried to got to unix.stackexchange.com because of this question and tried unix.se. Funny side!

@Lembik Using TikZ maybe? Also, you can post code lines like this in the chat as well. No need to use bpaste.net

egreg

@LoopSpace Installing Debian 9.3 on a VM just to see what happens with its tlmgr

Loop Space

@MartinScharrer Whoa!

TeXnician

@LoopSpace I will have to wait till I get back to my Linux machines, but if no one does it first I'll provide an answer for Arch.

Paulo Cereda

11:23

I am failing to find a nice solution with Fedora. :(

dnf provides helps, but not all the time.

Paulo Cereda

12:16

@LoopSpace: added a solution for Fedora.

barbara beeton

13:28

@LoopSpace -- the clay tablets that cuneiform was written on have survived remarkably well, especially if they got caught in a house fire. probably a bit easier than carving stone, and certainly easier if you happen to make a mistake in the writing.

egreg

14:13

@DavidCarlisle Look now! No pineapple!

samcarter

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A: A Moose, Some Silly Putty ... And A Desperate Plea For Help

Rubberducked! I liked the idea behind the "Selfie" hat, however IMO a better theme would have built on the concept of "rubber duck debugging". Self-answered a +2 question with a +2 answer. Made with the help of a 5yo using rounded-tip scissors, construction paper, toilet paper roll remna...

Paulo Cereda

14:30

As the resident duck of TeX.sx, I am here on behalf of our duck family to upvote your effort and wish you and your loved ones merry quacky holidays! Cheerio! :) — Paulo Cereda 9 secs ago

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samcarter

@PauloCereda My suggestion would be to add a little hat to the duck

Paulo Cereda

@samcarter ooh

Paulo Cereda

14:55

@samcarter: I have that duck!

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda One answer there made a hat that "is good for stalking ducks". You should complain ;-) meta.stackexchange.com/a/304625/154439

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer ooh would you like a very silly answer? :)

samcarter

@PauloCereda I see it as something to look forward to :)

Paulo Cereda

Dear sir, I wish to complain in the strongest possible terms about the hat which you have just posted as answer to this thread. It is clearly a threat to all ducks in existence, as it is being used to stalk poor species of the waterfowl family Anatidae. Many of my friends are ducks who wish to see that justice be done to correct this egregious breach of political correctness towards birds in general. Also, not enough people today wear hats. Yours etc., a wacky duck from the far land of TeX.sx. — Paulo Cereda 27 secs ago

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@samcarter @UlrikeFischer ^^

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda ;-)

Lembik

15:25

@MartinScharrer that's a nice idea although I am not sure I would know how to do that

CarLaTeX

@PauloCereda Code review has an official ducky!

Paulo Cereda

@CarLaTeX ooh

Maïeul

15:40

holla

Paulo Cereda

@Maïeul Aloha!

Maïeul

I am still working on l3build

I try to understand how we can have different test setting for individual checkfile

Maïeul

16:03

@JOs

@JosephWright is it possible?

I have running test which need makeglossaries, some of these need one run, other need three run etc

Joseph Wright

@Maïeul There are a couple of ways

@Maïeul Easiest would be to just have three runs all-round :)

@Maïeul I recently added the idea of separate sets of configs: at present that's easiest with one per directory but I'll probably generalise further this week

egreg

16:25

Did you see that the search box became black? Well almost black.

Ulrike Fischer

@egreg yes, looks darker.

Maïeul

16:49

@JosephWright thank (sorry I needed to by bread)

Joseph Wright

@Maïeul No problem

@Maïeul Depending on family commitments, I should get some work done on this soon

Maïeul

@JosephWright I would like something file by file, but maybe I could do it directory by directory

also a point which is not clear for me is the possibility to use latemkx, at least to produce handbooik

and example file

Typically, me process, actually, witj a makefile is

1. produce the two .sty from .dtx / .ins

2. check file

3. produce handbook for both reledmac and reledpar

4. produce example pdf

5. zip all these things

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright: github.com/cereda/arara/issues/97 :)

Joseph Wright

@Maïeul You can make file-by-file work by using different extensions (one extension for each config): I'll sort you out an example later

@Maïeul Much the same with texlua build.lua ctan

@Maïeul I have to head out soon, so it will probably be later this evening before I can put something together

Maïeul

with l3build I understand 1. and 2.

3. a little bit

4. not at all

5. not clear for me, but seem ok

Joseph Wright

16:59

@Maïeul That's the doc target (based on typesetfiles)

@Maïeul Items listed in typesetdemofiles

@Maïeul Created automatically when you do the ctan target

@Maïeul Like I say, I'll sort out a demo but need a little while ... have to head out with nephew shortly

Maïeul

@JosephWright of course

I think I will release with my actual system now

Joseph Wright

@Maïeul Ah, I meant demofiles

@Maïeul Sure: I may have to add some new features to support your use case :)

Maïeul

and I will look to your system for next release

typically, what is the must interessting for me is the check system

but if I migrate, I would like to migrate all things ;-)

Joseph Wright

@Maïeul Indeed: that's the core around which the rest is set up

Maïeul

@JosephWright maybe you would like I write a "summary" of my need in a file?

Joseph Wright

17:33

@Maïeul If possible (perhaps by mail)

Maïeul

@JosephWright I will do it

Paulo Cereda

17:57

All of a sudden, I realized the Carlisle/Mittelbach partnership is the TeX equivalent of Lennon/McCartney!

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Maïeul

18:14

@JosephWright which mail?

Joseph Wright

@Maïeul [email protected]

@PauloCereda Hmm, Rainer and Chris might not agree

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Ringo and George? :)

Maïeul

@JosephWright done thank you

nbro

19:10

Hi

I am using a table to visualize a few images in a grid (i.e. the table). But I have 5 images to show and I have two columns. I would like the last image to space both columns, i.e. to be (centered) between the first and second column. Do you know how to do that?

David Carlisle

@nbro \multicolumn{2}{c}{\includegraphics{... ?

@PauloCereda that didn't end well :(

nbro

@DavidCarlisle Yes, that's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for this Christmas gift :D

yo'

One my friend asked me what shall she answer to her children wondering why were we so mad about Xmas and Jesus, who he had been and why they had killed him. I advised her to answer them like this: He came into this world to love all the people, so that every single person is being loved. And all the presents are not from Santa Claus or whatever; we give them to each other to remember little Jesus. And he was killed by people who were bothered by all the love. Peace be with you all!

@PauloCereda ^^

nbro

19:32

@yo' Nice explanation, dude!

yo'

@nbro thanks. Feel free to get inspired!

samcarter

20:12

@CarLaTeX To come back to your suggestion about the more rectangular glasses:

What do you think?

CarLaTeX

20:30

@samcarter Perfect LOL

samcarter

@CarLaTeX Great! I modified the corner radius a bit and pushed it to github. Have fun with it!

\begin{tikzpicture}
	\duck[squareglasses=blue!50!black]
\end{tikzpicture}

CarLaTeX

@samcarter Yay!

CarLaTeX

20:58

@samcarter My avatar is perfect now :)

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@UlrikeFischer It is shocking indeed, but I think you and @PauloCereda got it backwards: Clearly, «stalking ducks» are ducks who stalk. I vigorously protest hats that make it easier for ducks to stalk me! Fortunately, though, at my present location the ducks need white hats, not green ones, to get any effective stalking done.

samcarter

21:16

@CarLaTeX :) and nice combination with the sun hat!

CarLaTeX

@samcarter :):):)

David Carlisle

23:43

@egreg is carrying a Hawaiian pizza I see!

egreg

@DavidCarlisle No pineapple: just tomato and cheese

David Carlisle

@egreg nice bit of revtex code:-)

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Yes, the class has several bits of interesting code

%% Original version by David Carlisle

David Carlisle

@egreg see my comment under the question, it was right originally:-)

egreg

23:59

@DavidCarlisle Excuses…

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