@DavidCarlisle ;-). Did you saw that jfbu is working on expandable utf8: tex.stackexchange.com/a/399287/2388 (I hadn't the time to check. Fighted with a csv table, and now have to go).
Time for my annual "I can't remember how to update Tex" :-(. I downloaded and installed MacTeX 2017 and set my default TeXLive version to TeXLive-2017. But when I start the TeX Live Utility (version 1.30), it says "Your TeX Live version is 2016, but your default repository URL appears to be for TeX Live 2017. You need to manually upgrade to a newer version of TeX Live, as there will be no further updates for your version."
@JosephWright -- i see you've shared the (still a draft) updated short math guide. were there any suggestions made at the meeting? i've received a few from elsewhere ... some of which i've already adopted.
@PauloCereda Lo sai che i papaveri son alti, alti, alti e tu sei piccolina e tu sei piccolina, sei nata paperina che cosa ci vuoi far... g.co/kgs/vbboQV
@barbarabeeton no we were running rather short on time, so basically I just showed the first page on screen and said if anyone wanted to review it in the next few days to ask me for a pdf but no one did so far
@CarLaTeX -- actually, i've enjoyed some quite tasty food in england ... once at an indian vegetarian restaurant in london (but i don't know whether it's there any more). england is also a good place to get cider (the alcoholic variety).
@DavidCarlisle -- well, joseph has sent off one copy; he cc'ed me on the transmittal. do read it when you get some time, please.
@barbarabeeton ah yes I used Joseph's laptop for the display so he had a copy (if he hadn't got one already:-)
But the actual question is: why LaTeX 3 has such a complicated syntax? — CarLaTeX14 hours ago
@CarLaTeX ^^ it's like hawaiian pizza, you just need to get more used to it.
But whatever the good and bad parts of l3 I don't think you could say \cs_set_eq:NN has a more complicated syntax than \let (which is the same thing) the L3 version tells you that it is a control sequence assignment (cs...) and takes two tokens (:NN) whereas the syntax for \let is ... strange \let\a\b or \let\a=b or \let\a = \b or ...
@StrongBad -- a reference is allowed in the abstract of an article in an ams journal, but it has to be complete -- no \ref{label}. the reason for this is that abstracts (along with the full bibliographic information for the article and all references) are passed on to indexing organizations and aggregators, who use the material for counting citations and things like that. an incomplete reference would be incomprehensible.
@DavidCarlisle I don't know anything about l3 but I can easily understand the word \let, whereas \cs_set_eq:NN is not so clear. I think it's not in the spirit of having self-explaining commands
@barbarabeeton yup. My go to style of APA, which usually covers everything, and fallback of MLA, do not tell me what gets bolded etc. I think i will just use the AMS style or maybe APS (which has a little info).
@CarLaTeX yes but can you guess the syntax of \let (which is quite complicated) whereas the syntax for any L3 command ending :NN is simple it takes two tokens.
The Curry Mile is a nickname for the part of Wilmslow Road running through the centre of Rusholme in south Manchester, England. The name is earned from the large number of restaurants, take-aways and kebab houses specialising in the cuisines of South Asia and the Middle East, thought to be the largest concentration of South Asian restaurants outside the Indian subcontinent.
Within a length of half a mile there are least seventy establishments of this kind. The Curry Mile is notable for its streets being busy into the early hours of the morning. The area is frequently visited by local students,...
@CarLaTeX -- for those of us who don't like beer (not the same as "don't drink" -- the cider served in british pubs is quite good), food does matter. but then, i'm not british.
@StrongBad very likely there is. But I do not use emacs anymore (switched back to vim for code) and texstudio for tex. Besides the editor support for an intelligent linewrapping with %. does this still make sense?
@StrongBad you have a high opinion of emacs. I lost my hope in emacs years ago, when it still was not able to handle linenumbers properly and came up with the most insecure packagemanager (m)elpa
I mean a newline in source like \caption{this is% a super clever% caption}
@yo' -- oh, that was quite a nice meal! thoroughly enjoyed! (i don't think we had a single substandard meal the whole time we were in the czech republic. and there were some that were well above average.) thanks for the reminder.
OK, but there was a reason, why I add it in configs like \sisetup{locale=UK, % multi-part-units=brackets, % per-mode=fraction,% retain-explicit-plus, % separate-uncertainty = false}
or was this just stupid by me? I do not remember the reason...
@JonasStein except in verbatim and friends a newline is exactly the same as a space, and a commented out newline is the same as a commented out space, that's all there is to it.
@DavidCarlisle I thought that it overlaps. I would never had expected so elaborated answers. ;-)
@DavidCarlisle famous people are able to handle a bit blame.
@CarLaTeX If you add \int_set_eq, \seq_set_eq, \dim_set_eq, \prop_set_eq, \tl_set_eq to the lot then you start to like the syntax -- even if it looks at first sight as if ants where running around.