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07:30
@DavidCarlisle I see you're catching missing %
07:44
@egreg Good Morning dearest prof. At this moment i am at my school.
@Sebastiano I'm on the train
@egreg :-) good trip then. can I ask you a favor with mt2pro?
@UlrikeFischer good morning also to you.
@Sebastiano I only have the “lite” version
@egreg tex.stackexchange.com/questions/355320/… I need two different characters with calligraphic mt2pro and times (see the link and comments). How? I'm taking a course in Catania Fundamentals of Modern Physics. His colleague uses both the classic calligraphic fonts of CM and the other for Mathtime Pro 2 Curly script.
@Sebastiano The problem of two calligraphic fonts has already been touched on the site, I believe.
07:54
@egreg It is true. It is your excellent answer
@egreg Should I use the classic calligraphic font CM but with mt2pro (curly script). Should I use the classic calligraphic font CM but with mt2pro (curly script). You can also see the pictures of my notes. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/69085/…
@Sebastiano I'm not sure I follow.
@egreg I figured you'd already gone to bed and who else would know such technical details?
@DavidCarlisle Good morning David. @egreg For now I close, I hope you can help me. Greetings and good work to everyone.
08:59
Morning all
@JosephWright relieved that some \changes entries from a decade ago are no longer appearing as verbatim code?
09:17
@DavidCarlisle :)
@DavidCarlisle Was there a reason you spotted it?
09:28
@JosephWright I was checking that the iso date stuff hadn't messed up the change log and...
09:40
@DavidCarlisle Ah
09:50
@JosephWright seems whenever you look at the code for one thing, you spot other things wrong.
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@DavidCarlisle Indeed
 
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11:45
Was Jon Skeet's account deleted?
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yo'
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@TeokanDuranDemircan you mean the JS or our JS? :)
 
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14:30
@egreg vvvv :-)
@MyrlHex ooh it is a duplicate except my answer is better than @egreg's:-) that is, the \strut are the problem and just patching to remove them sort of makes the problem go away but also doesn't address the (presumed) issue of why they were added. The version here is a bit more complicated but adds a "safe(er)" strut. — David Carlisle 57 secs ago
@egreg better than either answer, we should ping Javier to fix the package.
Anyone remember a recent question about \url where it could break at almost all points?
14:46
is this still the latest status? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/12175/… That is there is no easy way to submit a paper prepared using biblatex/biber to a journal?
15:06
@felipa It's down to journals so 'probably yes'
:( thanks
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@daleif yes, but can't find it now :(
@yo' Seems (locally) adding some \do<char> to \UrlBreak hellps. I have some URLs with long ID numbers
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@daleif yeah, basically
@daleif yes or for more specific requirements just use mathcode"8000 to do whatever you need, for example this breaks after a lower case letter if the following letter is uppercase, ForCamelCaseWords tex.stackexchange.com/questions/95093/…
15:21
@DavidCarlisle seems numbers are enough for me. What is the proper manner to add stuff to say \UrlBreak, I just stole it from url.sty, but properly adding to it would be better
\g@addto@macro (or an etoolbox alternative) \UrlBreaks{\do\1\do\2...
@DavidCarlisle Maybe he doesn't want to change.
@DavidCarlisle I'll try that. For some reason, hyperref on my URLs stopped working. I'll look into that
@egreg well it's his package of course, but I'll ask. It could just give up if baselinestretch is set on the grounds that it's going to look horrible anyway:-)
Stupid me, draft disables hyperref :-|
15:33
@DavidCarlisle Would you hyphenate ther-mal?
**\showhyphens{thermal}

Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) detected at line 0
[] \tenrm ther-mal
@egreg yes :-)
@DavidCarlisle Try with \usepackage[british]{babel}
@egreg that is, I don't have a lot of intuition about that other than what TeX does
@egreg no in that case (but I never use those patterns:-) I wonder if that's deliberate or just an artefact of the patterns
1 match for "^[the0-9]*r[0-9]*m[al0-9]*$" in buffer: hyph-en-gb.tex
   6636:r2mal
@egreg ^^^^
16:37
@Sean: Yes, that's one drawback. To circumvent this you'll have to manually adjust the figure numbers. Place \setcounter{figure}{3} just before the \caption to mark it as Figure 4. — Werner 53 secs ago
Is the other 'Sean' on this Q getting the notification pings too?
I've no real problem with getting the pings (from a software standpoint, it's safer to ping both); I'm just curious
16:47
@SeanAllred As he made the question, he gets notifications of all comments I think.
17:05
@DavidCarlisle Indeed: thermal, formal, normal are not hyphenated.
@egreg I would guess the intention was to stop nor-mal which is allowed by the us-patterns
I suppose arguably it should be therm-al but then stopped by righthyphenmin so perhaps not hyphenating as ther-mal is correct
17:57
@egreg Got the latest message?
18:24
@DavidCarlisle and @egreg -- this is all very interesting. checking these words in the oxford minidictionary used to develop the uk patterns, i find the following: formal (and informal) not broken at all; nor:mal allowed a break at the : under extreme circumstances (e.g. narrow measure); and ther|mal shown as hyphenation not restricted at the | . confused ...
@JosephWright The one of four hours ago?
@JosephWright I'd prefer the university account, by the way.
@barbarabeeton Unfortunately, the OP didn't add the document's preamble, so mine was a guess. Your information is very valuable: one can just add ther-mal as an exception.
18:40
@egreg Talk to Rainer :)
@JosephWright No news from him
@egreg I guess that's also what I should list for our SVN <-> Git link (in case you commit anything to L3)
@egreg I see you have an account on Comedy :)
@egreg He must have done something ...
@egreg I've added you to the SVN <-> Git mapping [I do the 'Git stuff' :)]
 
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20:45
@FrankMittelbach Apparently you can not use \DeclareRobustCommand before it is defined:-)
I'm one of the few Instagram users who connects solely through the Unix 'talk' gateway.
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@DavidCarlisle Oops
@JosephWright no tex.sx chat:-)
@DavidCarlisle :)
how is that?
@FrankMittelbach declarerobustcommand? I had to move \DeclareRobustCommand\- down a few dozen lines so \DeclareRobustCommand was defined (actually it may be better to move it out of ltdefns.dtx altogether it doesn't really fit there, it's not a definition command after all)
@JosephWright I know, you'd just have used \protected\def :-)
20:51
@DavidCarlisle Yup
@DavidCarlisle Since we now require e-TeX ...
@JosephWright well to be exact we said
We expect that within the next two years, releases of \LaTeX{} will
change modestly in order to run best under an extended \TeX{} engine
that contains the \eTeX{} primitives, e.g., \eTeX{} or pdf\TeX{}.
@DavidCarlisle I meant more recently
The team expect to make wider use of \eTeX{} within the kernel in future;
details will be announced where they impact on end users in a visible way.
@DavidCarlisle Yes, that bit
@JosephWright yes I picked the wrong line ^^ I think announce means a bit of warning and I'm not sure letting Will use + as a hyphenchar is a big enough feature to actually flip that switch
20:57
@DavidCarlisle :)
21:13
I am back, what I lost? :)
@PauloCereda Brexit is nearly upon us ...
@JosephWright oh no
@JosephWright along with the break up of the Union
@DavidCarlisle Indeed
@PauloCereda You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment
@JosephWright :(
21:24
@DavidCarlisle I suspect Northern Ireland might be first ...
@JosephWright yes
@DavidCarlisle I think there'll be the break up of the EU first!
@CarLaTeX We are likely to have Indyref2 next year: that's pretty quick
@JosephWright: sorry for the offtopicness: there's a paper I cannot find online, should I request our library to attempt to find one copy for me?
21:33
@JosephWright Ooooh, however, if things keep going on like they're going on now, I don't see a long future for the EU...
@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle: You should move to Northern Ireland or Scotland then ...
@CarLaTeX Indeed
I wanted to go to UK without the need of a visa... :(
@PauloCereda This would be the usual approach
@JosephWright That's my fear. They won't be able to get it. :(
21:42
@PauloCereda Reference?
@JosephWright Cook, "Linear time simulation of deterministic two-way pushdown automata". I think it's 1971.
@PauloCereda Certainly available here in the UK: explore.bl.uk/primo_library/libweb/action/…
@JosephWright THANK YOU
@PauloCereda I assume the ref is as listed in dblp.uni-trier.de/db/conf/ifip/ifip71-1.html
@JosephWright correct, thank you!
21:50
@PauloCereda I have quite a bit of experience tracking these things down :)
@JosephWright I see. :) Quick Q: what's the difference between "Encrypted Download" and "Paper"? The latter means a physical paper?
@PauloCereda Yes, the latter would be a photocopy
@JosephWright To be honest, I don't like encrypted documents.
22:21
Brexit bill passed ...
22:39
Welp
Tried to help someone update to TeXLive 2016 as they needed titles in their ACS paper
Mess of error messages on first compile
They've gone back to 2015 with \setkeys{acs}{articletitle = true}
Welp, I tried
23:28
@JosephWright The prime minister said that she had sought to work with Scotland on Brexit and that there was common ground, also claiming there was no appetite for a second vote north of the border. “The tunnel vision that the SNP has shown today is deeply regrettable. It sets Scotland on a course for more uncertainty and division, creating huge uncertainty,” she said, as she accused Sturgeon of “playing politics” with the future of the country. “Politics is not a game,” she added. (The Guardian)

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