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12:16 AM
@ArchStanton You're welcome! I have even better code on the site, notwithstanding what a fellow chat resident might say. ;-)egreg 27 secs ago
 
I don't know how many of you know about this yet, but: github.com/latex3/latex-project.org and latex3.github.io/latex-project.org
 
12:52 AM
@SeanAllred it's a secret:-)
@SeanAllred or more exactly it's not done yet, that's just the raw content imported without any proposed new style being applied
 
 
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8:12 AM
Hello everyone.
@DavidCarlisle Four commits? Ooh la la.
Who is jonasjacek?
So, LaTeX 3 has bowed to peer pressure and is using Git too?
 
8:31 AM
I think there is a 2 missing, did anybody see it?
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9:11 AM
@barbarabeeton: thank you! <3
 
@FaheemMitha We've has a mirror on GitHub for some time: the master code repo is SVN
@FaheemMitha Jonas is looking after our website: the previous lead (Thomas Lotze) stepped down at about the same time Jonas started talking to Frank about it
@FaheemMitha Currently the website is also stored in SVN (I think you can clone it if you like: I can check), but the framework we have is not widely used which makes life a bit 'interesting'
 
Good maen
 
@ChristianHupfer Hi. :)
 
@JosephWright Sadly, no response yet. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/286286/… Have there been any other suspicious posts the last days?
@ChristianHupfer Same here.
 
9:24 AM
My car (in front of the image) this morning, with additional 30cm of snow by this night
 
@ChristianHupfer We have snow here too, but only about an inch (2-3 cm)
 
@JosephWright That's not snow, that's white dust then :-P
@JosephWright: I believe snow is more likely in Scotland or in Wales (in general) in the UK?
 
@ChristianHupfer West gets more precipitation generally, and unsurprisingly the high ground gets more snow, so Wales, Scotland, Lake District are heaviest, Yorkshire, Derbyshire next, then the midlands, very little snow in East Anglia as a rule
@FaheemMitha As I've said before, as much as anything there's an element of community here: Git(Hub) is generally popular for (La)TeX code. Note also that our workflow is a classical one: all work in one branch (trunk)
@ChristianHupfer Enough to go tobogganing I hope. We very rarely get more than a couple of inches [sorry, but coming from the UK snowfall is measured in these units :-)]
 
@JosephWright: This is (usually) the same: The western parts of Germany in the Rhine valley about Cologne are just too flat and the Black Forest is the first mountain chain being high enough to catch the western jet coming from France.
 
@JosephWright So still using SVN for now?
 
9:32 AM
@JosephWright I know about the inch :-P
 
@FaheemMitha I don't foresee any change in the existing repositories. The LaTeX2e one is SVN-only and I doubt there'll be a drive to change that. The LaTeX3 one is two-way mirrored so there is no need to make a change. The website is going to go to Git as it suits Jonas, and I'd note that the new unicode-data package I've created is also Git-only (I don't think I can make new SVN repos on comedy).
 
@JosephWright comedy?
Oh, that's a machine?
I didn't know two-way mirroring between SVN and Git was an option.
 
@FaheemMitha Yes, the DANTE server
 
@JosephWright ok
 
@FaheemMitha subgit.com
 
9:36 AM
@JosephWright Ok
 
@FaheemMitha You might think of it as www.ctan.org :-)
 
@JosephWright I see. Why comedy?
 
@FaheemMitha comedy.dante.org :-)
 
@JosephWright Oh, I see.
 
@JosephWright styx@comedy.dante.org :)
 
9:38 AM
@PauloCereda @JosephWright: I would prefer lethal.joke@mp.org ;-)
 
@FaheemMitha Possibly Rainer Schöpf's idea, @DavidCarlisle might know
 
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Q: New package submitted to CTAN, by cannot find by tlmgr

James FanI submitted a new package to CTAN days ago. I can find this package on CTAN, but my texlive installation cannot find it via tlmgr. How long does it take for CTAN new package to be installed in texlive? Should I wait for texlive 2016?

@JosephWright: I think we can close it?
 
@ChristianHupfer It's answerable: I actually think it's a dupe (I'm sure something similar's come up before)
 
@JosephWright well, I rather meant as 'off-topic' because the O.P. found the package using the command line version of tlmgr
 
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@ChristianHupfer: ^^ :)
 
9:46 AM
@PauloCereda And how does this new method differ from the other 10^{3} ways provided by arara? :-P
 
@DavidCarlisle LuaTeX 'fun':
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Q: interpolate with graphicx and beamer in luatex

ThérèseIn TeX Live 2015, using the interpolate option of \includegraphics{...} with lualatex causes an error unless one specifies \pdftexversion appropriately. For example, following Kurt’s explanations in a question on ocg-p, this works: \documentclass{article} \def\pdftexversion{200} \usepackage{fon...

 
@ChristianHupfer That's the beauty of syntactic sugar: THEY DON'T DIFFER!
:)
 
@FaheemMitha Main advantage of GitHub or similar from my POV is it's a flexible and powerful GUI for the log, changes, etc., without us having to host it ourselves. One can of course see the same on other sites (BitBucket most obviously), but you have to pick one and most I know of are Git-only or favour Git
 
@JosephWright Yes, GitHub is flavor of the month/year/decade.
 
@PauloCereda It's not a feature, it's a bug :-P
 
9:56 AM
@FaheemMitha Well when you've got for example github.com/Microsoft ...
 
@JosephWright Yes, I've seen that. At first I had to pinch myself to make sure I was awake.
 
@FaheemMitha See discussion yesterday re. licensing and importance of open-source code even for commercial software entities
 
"from Microsoft with love". For some reason, that reminds me of the Bond novel "From Russia with Love".
@JosephWright Discussion where? Here?
 
@FaheemMitha Here, I'll try to find it
 
@JosephWright Ok. Thanks.
 
10:02 AM
Hmm, maybe it was somewhere else
 
@JosephWright Well, if you happen to come across it, let me know the link. Thanks.
 
@FaheemMitha Dante's famous work
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, I see. Thanks.
 
@JosephWright it was here:-)
@FaheemMitha @JosephWright conversation before and after this:
2 days ago, by David Carlisle
@yo' we don't produce open source software (mostly) we sell a software library, but it's written (mosty) in emacs and initially developed (mostly) on linux the build system is gnu make, it's often compiled with gcc and so it goes. Even in proprietary software companies the entire software stack is held together by open source software.
 
@DavidCarlisle Great, thanks.
 
10:10 AM
@JosephWright will look...
 
@DavidCarlisle He's also very hard working and dedicated.
 
@JosephWright oh one that will get better when graphics uses luatex.def :-)
 
10:31 AM
@JosephWright Well, I read the discussion.
Apparently yo does not like the GPL.
 
@JosephWright I voted OT: the answer is “if it's deemed free, just wait; if it's not free, go away; in any case, ask on the mailing list”.
 
10:55 AM
@FaheemMitha It's not universally popular :-)
 
11:15 AM
@JosephWright No kidding.
Personally, I think it's a good idea. But I realise people who want to make money off selling software might feel differently.
 
@FaheemMitha also many people who distribute opensource software don't want to use GPL for various reasons, it's wrong to characterise it about money.
@FaheemMitha we don't make money selling latex for example.
 
@DavidCarlisle I didn't say it was only about money.
 
@FaheemMitha No but your comment above only suggests one reason for not wanting to use GPL
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, it's one reason. I didn't suggest otherwise.
 
@FaheemMitha :-)
 
11:22 AM
Anyway, it's one reason the free software ecosystem has been doing relatively well in recent years. It's unclear how things would be otherwise.
 
@FaheemMitha agreed that's more or less what I said in the discussion the other day.
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, I read what you wrote.
 
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Q: Create a titlepage: package .sty

MarcoI would like to create a package (.sty) for a titlepage. I followed this guide https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Title_Creation from which I took the following two codes: the first code is the package called columbidaeTitle.sty, the second code is the document where the package, earlier created...

Anybody with an idea on how to procede with the question?
 
11:48 AM
@Johannes_B apparently @egreg had an idea (somewhat influenced by @PauloCereda one suspects)
 
@Johannes_B proceed?
 
@DavidCarlisle Saw it, thanks @egreg :-)
@FaheemMitha Yes, i meant proceed.
 
@DavidCarlisle Not only I had an idea, but it was even working!
 
@egreg What do you mean?
 
@Johannes_B I just implemented my comment
 
12:03 PM
@egreg Though the answer is correct, i think this is a xy-question somehow.
 
@egreg yes although most cases (and here probably, I didn't really look) the whole renewgeometry stuff is over-engineered for what could just be a simple change of margins cf quote
 
@DavidCarlisle One could do arithmetic with \oddsidemargin, \topmargin and so on. With \newgeometry it's easier.
 
12:36 PM
@egreg Reading the complete comment section once more, i seem to be a pretty bad explainer. :-(
 
 
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2:34 PM
@DavidCarlisle These entries sound suspiciously familiar. :)
 
@PauloCereda: I always wanted to show you this imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ducklings.png
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@UlrikeFischer ooh there's a pond nearby, I will try this! <3
I need to lure the ducklings. :)
 
 
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4:22 PM
Everyone having a restful Sunday?
 
@JosephWright Nice dad's birthday party with a couple of brothers of mine. Juventus won 4:0. What else? :)
 
@egreg I'm sitting by the fire marking interim project reports :-)
 
4:35 PM
@JosephWright Preparing a conference proceedings.
 
@JosephWright Seems like a reasonable question to me: meta.tex.stackexchange.com/q/6494/2693
 
5:06 PM
Good maen
 
@ChristianHupfer Quack!
 
5:25 PM
@AlanMunn Nothing stopping you answering :-)
 
@JosephWright Heavy and cold and merciless mod hammer. :)
 
5:43 PM
@JosephWright -- here in eastern north america, the winter so far has been ridiculously warm, so very little snow. when it does come, it's rather unpredictable. last year, there were some places in boston that still had visible pockets of snow until nearly july. and here is how some adventurous locals tppk advantage of a february 2013 providence snowstorm: youtube.com/watch?v=Y-2UEacqDz0 (just about a mile from where we live).
 
@barbarabeeton Also been very warm here until recently. Snow a surprise to me.
 
@HenriMenke yay!
@JosephWright Snow is also a surprise to me. :)
 
6:08 PM
@JosephWright did you get much, we got a bit on the cars but none on the ground (too wet, probably)
 
@DavidCarlisle About an inch: enough to build a snowman and for some people to go sledging (we didn't, my nephew's a bit too young)
@DavidCarlisle Was melting even early on
 
@DavidCarlisle How about that tree near your house? :)
 
@PauloCereda I think it's safe.... ^^
 
@DavidCarlisle I wub you. <3
@DavidCarlisle As long as no one has that flint and steel thingy, you are safe. :)
 
@PauloCereda there is a trail of red dust running from the house, should I worry about that?
 
6:21 PM
@DavidCarlisle Nah don't worry. Surely there isn't a wooden pressure thingy in the other end. :)
 
@JosephWright here we go again....
 
6:46 PM
@JosephWright running test suite now.....
 
yo'
7:00 PM
 
@yo' oooooh
@yo': It is like that one time I was in the bus station when a cute girl approached me and said my vim session was nice. :)
 
yo'
@PauloCereda :) good afternoon/evening, btw :)
 
@yo' Hi Tom! <3
 
yo'
@PauloCereda I remember that, you were so foolish not to ask her hand on the spot! :D
 
@yo' (wait for David to mention I was not able to quit vim so I could talk to the girl)
:)
 
yo'
7:03 PM
@PauloCereda oh! :)
 
Which is which?
 
@AlanMunn The one that will start burning when you sprinkle holy water on it?
 
@Johannes_B :)
 
@AlanMunn Second is Arial. :)
 
@AlanMunn It's obvious!
 
7:16 PM
@PauloCereda DocBrown21 wants to marry you.
 
yo'
@AlanMunn top is Helvet
 
@AlanMunn :) I know my Helvetica girls. :)
 
@AlanMunn Some ambulances in our Town say Rettungswagen in Arial, some in Helvetica. I asked somebody why ... nobody had even noticed the difference, not even after spotting out the obvious diffs.
 
@Johannes_B That's pretty funny.
 
7:33 PM
@JosephWright passed!!!!!
 
Sometimes edit histories can be funny: "format MWE and correct speling errors"
 
@AlanMunn :)
 
8:32 PM
@AlanMunn The editor must be a logician!
 
@egreg Or a cat?
The irony of this one is lost on many though, since the grammar here is fine. :)
 
8:54 PM
@AlanMunn Fubá might be a logician cat!
 
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.88.0 (TeX Live 2016/dev)
 restricted system commands enabled.
LaTeX2e <2016/02/01>
 
9:11 PM
@DavidCarlisle New bugs to fix?
 
@egreg test suite all passes and changelog not been updated since 0.87 so they are harder to find this time. Looking.... :-)
 
9:32 PM
@DavidCarlisle Cool
 
@JosephWright not even a log line wrapping change for you:(
 
@DavidCarlisle :-)
 
 
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11:24 PM
@egreg Re: Preview this must be new since it never used to. I'll change the answer then. I never use Preview for PDFs so I haven't kept up with changes.
 
@AlanMunn Neither do I, but I was curious so I tested. ;-)
@AlanMunn And yes, the jump to the top of page is annoying.
 
@egreg Indeed. :)
 

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