TeX, LaTeX and Friends - 2015-10-04 (page 1 of 2)

cfr

00:19

@HarishKumar Hmm... I can't say I've ever had anything quite like that. Is it good?

Harish Kumar

00:57

@cfr I would bet you will like it. I can live with only that. :)

@cfr It will add to the taste if we use some pickle along with.

cfr

01:19

@HarishKumar Wonder if soya yogurt would work. Probably. It behaves quite like regular yogurt. Hmmm.... possibilities.

Harish Kumar

02:00

@cfr I have never tried soya yoghurt. :(

cfr

02:19

@HarishKumar It is quite good. It turns out that the bacteria which make yogurt like soya milk just as well as they do dairy milk. [But never let anybody tell you that soya cheese is any good or that you can make great cheese from a pile of cashew nuts, a sieve and a pair of old socks. You can make something like cottage cheese and cream cheese, but you can't make proper cheese.]

Harish Kumar

@cfr: Good to know. :)

Joseph Wright

07:09

@DavidCarlisle Yes

Christian Hupfer

07:41

Good maen

Johannes_B

Hi @christian

@ChristianHupfer texwelt.de/wissen/fragen/14595/…

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Hello Johannes.. I wonder how some users would use LaTeX if there wouldn't be those TeX editors at all.

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Dunno. The world would fall down with el-capitano-madness.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Apparently, yes

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer No new posts on LC or gL :-/

Christian Hupfer

07:52

@Johannes_B: I've not been on LC for months, I believe

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I am there regularly. :-)

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Which isn't connected to the fact that you are a mod there ;-)

Updating TL ...

Another format update???

Johannes_B

A drop-down terminal should not take 5 seconds to appear. :-(

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B What's a drop-down-terminal?

@Johannes_B: By the way... any news of the Banana guy?

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer A terminal that apears on a keystroke. For example guake

@ChristianHupfer No. I think he went away with project done, thanks

Christian Hupfer

07:58

@Johannes_B guake??????

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I got only one package to update koma-script.

Guake

Guake is a drop-down terminal for GNOME Desktop Environment. Like similar terminals, it is invoked with a single key, and hidden by pressing the same key again. Its design was inspired from consoles in computer games such as that of Quake which slide down from the top of the screen when a key is pressed, and slide back up when the key is pressed again. Guake follows the same line of Yakuake and Tilda, but it is an attempt to meld the best of them into a single GTK-based application. Guake has been written from scratch. Running Guake is faster than launching a new terminal with a keyboard shortcut...

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Koma wasn't in my update list some minutes ago

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I got the most recent 100 % up to date extra exclusive version from the KOMA-repository.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B A .... *nome .. I kan't use that *nome bekause I ket errors always -- that's why I use KDE ;-)

@Johannes_B You know, that I am not a fan of KOMA so I will wait until it's in the TL release

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I installed ubuntu a few years back and switched to XFCE window manager about two months later. My system is cluttered with Mist and i don't find the Muse to do a proper clean install (including getting rid of the old windows partitition that won't even start up).

@ChristianHupfer I know. Good thing we have @esdd, whe can answer all the KOMA questions with the latest features.

Christian Hupfer

08:04

@Johannes_B I find KOMA more and more weird. The manual isn't good, in my point of view.

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer By the way, ich musste diese Woche chon Eis kratzen.

@ChristianHupfer Sadly, i have to agree. But documenting software is a hard task.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Ich noch nicht, aber diese Woche kommen die Winterreifen drauf

@Johannes_B The problem with that manual is its lack of examples. Always fragments of code...

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Agreed, but Markus doesn't need all the stuff that is implemented the last months. All this is stuff that comes from the crazy brains of some users. Check the latest answers on KOMA and chapter titles. This is madness.

Stop with the fancy stuff and do some regular clean headings.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: By the way, I will (try) rewrite my packages in expl3

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Didn't came around to taking a deeper look at L3. :-(

Christian Hupfer

08:13

@Johannes_B You definitely should look into L3... It's more exciting than tikz

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer TikZ is a black box for me as well.

Joseph Wright

@ChristianHupfer Bug fix

Christian Hupfer

@JosephWright svn blame who? ;-)

Joseph Wright

@ChristianHupfer Either me of @DavidCarlisle, I guess

Christian Hupfer

@JosephWright Ah, the usual suspects :D

David Carlisle

08:17

@JosephWright we do what? (just logged in:-)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Updated the format again: the latexrelease changes

David Carlisle

@JosephWright oh latex, must have been you:-)

@JosephWright but no large stack of mails from angry authors complaining things are broken this morning, so so far, so good....

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Indeed

@DavidCarlisle As we caught the priority issue ourselves I think we are looking quite good

@DavidCarlisle Monday may of course bring some 'fun'

David Carlisle

@JosephWright push luatexbase back to ctan today, if nothing immediate shows up?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Yes

@DavidCarlisle I'll send it this morning

Romain Picot

08:22

Does anyone know an answer where the solution is use "-shell-escape" option at compilation? Have answered this yesterday durint the answer the unanswered but after sleeping, I think this might by already answered somewhere

David Carlisle

@RomainPicot well there are lots, but I think it depends on the question whether considered a duplicate, saying you need it for minted isn't really same as saying you need it for some versions of psfrag, or pythontex etc

@JosephWright I decided to skip over the ctex travis emails, but seems like you are making progress there

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Good plan: rather tedious

Torbjørn T.

@RomainPicot Do a search similar to this one, and add more keywords, perhaps you can find one. That said, there are plenty of cases where the same questions have been asked and answered several times, not always easy to find/remember dupes, and often someone will just answer anyway.

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle I have the testing working locally, want to give Liam Huang the time to update his pull request

Romain Picot

@DavidCarlisle About using \begin{python}\end{python}. I didn't find anything but I'm not a specialist of it

Christian Hupfer

08:29

Either a clear dupe or unclear:

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Q: Appendix numbering (Alph.arabic) in Latex

I'm trying to have a appendix as Appendix A A.1 A.2 A.3 This is what I have do so far \appendix %\renewcommand\thesection{\Alph{subsection}} \renewcommand{\thesubsection}{\arabic{subsection}} Can anyone please tell me what I'm doing wrong here?? Thank you

appendices

Romain Picot

@TorbjørnT. I always forget tag as is;answer. I'll look ty

Christian Hupfer

@RomainPicot If you answered it's in your list, isn't it?

Romain Picot

@ChristianHupfer list of answers I made? yes of course: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/184444/…

Christian Hupfer

@RomainPicot No, I meant, you can find your answers there... perhaps we've got some misunderstanding

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I upvoted it. Off the list.

Romain Picot

08:37

@ChristianHupfer I may be not totally awake :-P? Where should I found my answer?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Hope my check-ins this morning won't be too controversial!

Johannes_B

@JosephWright Have you been a mac user? @egreg is: latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=26726

Joseph Wright

@Johannes_B I'll answer that one :-)

Torbjørn T.

Any TeXShop users that can answer this one? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/270522/…

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Thanks

Joseph Wright

08:42

@TorbjørnT. Let me grab TeXshop and check

David Carlisle

@JosephWright sorry been away for a few minutes tracking down a latex bug:-)

latex/2476 (reported in 1997) looks like a bug to me...

Christian Hupfer

@clemens: Some work for your acro package I assume:

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Q: \Ac{} is capitalising the entire long-form (acro package)

I'm using the acro package and would like to capitalise only the first letter of the long form of acronyms if they start a sentence. MWE: \documentclass{book} \usepackage{acro} \DeclareAcronym{tiaa}{ short = TIAA, long = this is an acronym } \begin{document} \Ac{tiaa} is the capitalised...

acronyms acro

Johannes_B

@JosephWright Nice, thank you. I learned something new.

Joseph Wright

09:04

@DavidCarlisle \protected\def... :-)

egreg

09:16

@DavidCarlisle This is emTeX (tex386), Version 3.14159 [4b] :)

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle Wanna have soe fun? latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=26765 Or maybe @Paulo wants to help one of his own :-)

egreg

09:40

@Johannes_B I always get goosebumps when I see those tables; and this has entries in square brackets and in parentheses. With no \\* for avoiding breaks where necessary. And no respect for the poor reader who'll see no alignment between entries with different number of digits. Statisticians. ;-)

Johannes_B

@egreg The table looks awful. I couldn't even look at it.

@StefanKottwitz Tikz-Stuff, can you take this one? latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=25831

@egreg :-p latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=26708

egreg

@Johannes_B WOW!

Johannes_B

@egreg It does a bit of chest pain.

Joseph Wright

10:00

@DavidCarlisle I've sent luatexbase

David Carlisle

@JosephWright Ok I'm off for a bit, will see what disasters are reported later:-)

Joseph Wright

10:41

@user2692669 Hello

Stefan Kottwitz

10:55

@Johannes_B looks like a simple tabular with scrlayer or fancyhdr

@egreg we would be proud if you would tell our users how to make it better :-) the forum is still a place, where people come with complex support issues which they cannot distill to a handy question, so there's nice classic talk instead of pure Q&A. Personally I enjoy the talking atmosphere there.

Joseph Wright

It's interesting how small you get get TL if you need to :-)

Stefan Kottwitz

@JosephWright yes, look:

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Joseph Wright

@StefanKottwitz :-)

user2692669

11:12

@JosephWright Hi!

egreg

@StefanKottwitz Those tables are meaningless to me.

egreg

11:30

@user2692669 Hi!

Johannes_B

12:05

@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle Please have a look at the following. Is the failure in any relation to the recent changes of luatexbase and co, or is the package just behind LuaTeX stuff (or buggy over all).

% arara: lualatex
%\RequirePackage{filecontents}
\documentclass{article}
\begin{filecontents*}{\jobname.spell.xml}
	Some
\end{filecontents*}
\usepackage{spelling}
\begin{document}
Some text
\end{document}

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: I am cleaning up a little bit in my favourite tags

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer You have a favourite list? How big is it?

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B that's odd spelling was one of my test cases, let me se..

Joseph Wright

@Johannes_B Stack trace shows nothing to do with us: that's not valid XML

Christian Hupfer

David Carlisle

12:09

@Johannes_B hang on you are writing an xml file that is clearly not well formed, then you get an xml parse error..

oh, what @JosephWright just said

Johannes_B

@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle Not sure what the file is supposed to look like, i pulled that from mrunix.de/forums/…

David Carlisle

@JosephWright seems like no disasters while I was out

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Probably needs a better error at the XML parser end, but that's not our fault :-)

@DavidCarlisle No

@DavidCarlisle I added some more contrib tests

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B deleted the xml file then make the document look like

\documentclass{article}
\begin{filecontents*}{\jobname.spell.bad}
	Some
\end{filecontents*}
\usepackage{spelling}
\begin{document}
Some text
\end{document}

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle That works, though nothing is highlighted (is it supposed to be?). The OP gets errors on undef'ed commands, but he posted just snippets.

Joseph Wright

12:17

@Johannes_B No highlighting here with TL'14

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I thought you were talking about the favourites in your profile.

@JosephWright The purpose of the package is a bit questionable for me. When i do spell-checking, i use aspell on the text file and that is it. No extra runs, no highlighting etc.

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B ah, it doesn't normalise white space. Delete the spell.* files and try again with that space before Some deleted the the .bad file

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle Ah, now it is highlighted.

Oder of files that texdoc finds; using aliases for texdoc. What list to ping? TL or texdoc?

Christian Hupfer

12:35

@Johannes_B I wrote favourite tags ;-)

@Johannes_B: My list of favorites contains only the questions by @egreg and @DavidCarlisle ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Wasn't reading properly, sorry.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B No worries ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I had pasta for lunch, with a sauce made of minced beef, Lauchzwiebeln und Schmand.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Similar: Bolognese (cooked by myself, not of a package or jar), Penne

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Real Bolognese, or just minced meat with tomato sauce?

barbara beeton

12:42

@egreg -- here's a teaser for you: valerielester.com

Stefan Kottwitz

@egreg not just tables, anything :-)

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Most of it real ;-) Onions, garlic, minced beef meat, olive oil, spices of course and with tomates, cooked for some hours

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Isn't the real one without minced meat? And with carrots and celery?

Romain Picot

12:57

@ChristianHupfer nothing about emacs? It's a shame !

user2692669

13:19

Is there a way to print what font is used in a specific part of my text?

I try to use listings package but the template I used (I'm supposing) is using the wrong font.

Johannes_B

@user2692669 \makeatletter\f@family\makeatother prints the current font family.

@user2692669 This won't work with listings though. But you can always use external tool pdffonts.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Not that I know of, but we should ask @egreg

@RomainPicot Why emacs?

David Carlisle

13:55

@user2692669 well normally you can use \the\font but listings is more or less a verbatim environment where normal rules don't apply, so it depends what you mean.

Johannes_B

14:13

@ChristianHupfer I see yYou are doing some house-keeping. :-)

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B What do you mean? Answering old posts, cleaning?

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Yes, and vtc occasionally.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Yes and I am a life saver :D

Thank you @ChristianHupfer . Problem effectively solved. You're a life saver!! — BenneB yesterday

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer You are not in all cases.

You little carnivore, you.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B ????

Johannes_B

14:19

@ChristianHupfer You are a meat eater, hence a few lifes not saved. ;-)

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B I am a meat eater and a meat cheater ... I save TeX Live(s)/Life(s) ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer :-D

CW-upvote anybody? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/235872/…

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: Ok, done, but no more votes from me today for your posts, otherwise they could be reverted ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I got three upvotes today, for very old answers. That was you?

user2692669

@DavidCarlisle I saw somewhere that I can force a font (or create something like my_listing and use seperate settings) so whatever font I want to use will be 100% chosen. And yes, I intent to use it for verbatim.

Christian Hupfer

14:28

@Johannes_B Prove it :D

Johannes_B

@user2692669 You have been writing about a template? Where can i find it?

user2692669

@Johannes_B overleaf.com/latex/templates/…

Johannes_B

@user2692669 I am a bit scared to follow the link. :-(

user2692669

@Johannes_B It's overleaf, it's a templete for greek+english using xelatex

Martin Schröder

Anybody home? It seems we have some questions on problems with MacTeX and OSX 10.11 (El Capitan); e.g. tex.stackexchange.com/search?tab=newest&q=El%20Capitan has about a dozen questions like tex.stackexchange.com/q/270804/5763 and tex.stackexchange.com/q/270899/5763. Could we please get a question subsuming all the problems?

Christian Hupfer

14:37

@JosephWright: Perhaps you can help here: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/270698/…

David Carlisle

@user2692669 sorry I can't even begin to guess what you mean. But chat is a bad place to ask questions (unless they are about cricket) make an example that shows the problem and ask on the site

Johannes_B

\def\invisiblethingie{\tiny\ }

:-)

user2692669

@DavidCarlisle All is OK now :)

Johannes_B

@MartinSchröder See the starred command on the right :-)

@MartinSchröder I agree with you, though. One central question seems to be a good idea. There is also the TUG-pdf from Herb.

Martin Schröder

@Johannes_B I'm not an Apple user, so I can't help much...

Johannes_B

14:43

@MartinSchröder Me neither.

@user2692669 Just skimmed it. Probably safe to use the template.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B I've never touched an Apple (computer!) for my whole life so far...

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I did once. Doing LaTeX support.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Traitor :-P

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer It didn't have locate available. Nor vim.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Vim, what's that? :D Locate is helpful

Johannes_B

14:56

@ChristianHupfer I was sitting at a Windows PC recently, and every few seconds Ähm, Schatz? Wasn? Das Szstem war nicht benutybar. ÄUberall war das FehlertÄaufelchen unterwegs.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Don't mention Windoze... I've only MS Crap machines at school to work with, no single Linux computer :-(

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Should be doable though.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Nope, I hate them... ah, I hate them... those ~~squirrels~~ MS Crap computers @PauloCereda ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I meant getting a linux machine.

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer Squirrels!

Eek! The Cat - Eekstremely Dull

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Christian Hupfer

15:02

@Johannes_B Yes, but nobody that will maintain it (unless I will do it myself)

Johannes_B

\begin{align*}
\text{40 wienerbrød} = \text{5kr + 5kr + 5kr + 5kr + 5kr (og blive ved 40 gange)}
\end{align*}

@egreg ^^^^^^ latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=91977#p91977

baxx

15:17

I'm getting a bit confused trying to work out where to put a custom Style file in order to compile something that I've downloaded. I have the .tex and .sty files in a directory, but googling I'm seeing things about texmf and stuff and I don't have anything from echo $TEXMFHOME when I run that

I thought that it might just pick it up if it was in the same directory but it doesn't

Joseph Wright

@baxx You won't necessarily have $TEXMFHOME set

@baxx What does kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFHOME say?

baxx

@JosephWright apparently not - am I imagining things about it just picking up sty files in the same dir?

Joseph Wright

@baxx Files are picked up 'here' first, yes

@baxx What TeX system are you using? MiKTeX, TeX Live, ...?

David Carlisle

@baxx it should always find stuff in the directory from where you run tex (note that if you load the initial file via a full path it is the current directory that you start tex, not the directory with the file that is automatically in the path

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Not quite, actually, but ....

baxx

15:21

For that command I get ~/texmf.... if they are picked up from the current dir first then I'm confused, perhaps I've done something else wrong

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle MiKTeX won't find files 'here' if they are in the installation root

David Carlisle

@JosephWright odd:-)

baxx

pretty sure I'm just using TeX Live, Ubuntu repo install a while back

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle By-design

@baxx Ubuntu will be TL, yes

egreg

@user2692669 You can use an escape

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{listings}
\begin{document}
\begin{lstlisting}[mathescape]
$\expandafter\string\the\font$
\end{lstlisting}
\end{document}

This will print \OT1/cmr/m/n/10

In your case you should be able to guess the font family.

baxx

15:25

I haven't used latex for ages i forget just how many errors one can face

Johannes_B

What to do with this question?

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Q: Two Columns Document for CV

First time posting here and I'm not sure I'm doing everything right. I'm writing my CV in Latex (I'm new on this), and I can't figure out how to spare my document in 2 different columns like this: http://www.latextemplates.com/template/friggeri-resume-cv Actually I want pretty much the same thi...

align two-column columns

@baxx Did you pay attention to uppercase/lowercase? LaTeX does.

baxx

I'm just trying to get a template to compile to see what it looks like atm :P I'm just going to delete everything but the error, etc

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Look at the message above. Something in this universe is teasing me it seems.

baxx

does this look wrong to anyone : \renewcommand{\thesisauthor}{Name}

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B You mean the CV question?

Johannes_B

15:36

@ChristianHupfer No, really the post above my message. There is that word once more.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B The Danish(?) wienerbrod post?

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer The message that pinged, one above, one below uppercase/lowercase post.

Romain Picot

@Johannes_B Template?

Johannes_B

@RomainPicot Sí. :-)

Romain Picot

@Johannes_B The wrong uses of this term comes from website as latextemplate those provide "template"

@Johannes_B And I use it sometimes too...

Johannes_B

15:41

@RomainPicot github.com/johannesbottcher/templateConfusion

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B The template post?

Romain Picot

@Johannes_B Have seen it some weeks ago ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Sí.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Ah... what was your nickname here.. Gunthar the template hunter ;-)

Johannes_B

You can judge the evil power of templates by just one thing: I joined twitter. >:-/

Tweeted by templateGundar on July 9, 2015 at 4:43 PM

yo'

15:46

@Johannes_B Oh you tweeted my video! :)

Johannes_B

@yo' Sure, it was good. :-)

Christian Hupfer

@yo' @PauloCereda @Johannes_B @RomainPicot: Is it a plane? Is it a bird? No -- it's Gundar the template Hunter in his continuing mission to extinguish bad templates and to boldly convince others to not use them where they have been used too long

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I cannot make them stop. I know that.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B You could inject some code into latex.ltx such that bad templates do not work any longer (at least not without much ado)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer silly boy. :-)

Christian Hupfer

15:55

@Johannes_B I prefer naughty boy

yo'

@Johannes_B oh thankies :-)

Christian Hupfer

Oh, only 20 until being rep-capped

I am off for a while -- see you later

egreg

17:37

@cfr Where can I apply for becoming Welsh?

Gigili

17:50

Hallo

I have the following semi-image in word, how could I have the same in latex? Do you recommend pasting it as an image there instead of designing one?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

yo'

@Gigili There are 2 special things, both have been discussed here: (1) How to use an empty square in an equation (hint: it's \Box). (2) How to put the indices over the matrix and right from the matrix. I can try to find the question that discusses this.

egreg

@PauloCereda At least Juve won. :) But Italy played well against Ireland, they just were stronger.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Indeed. :)

egreg

18:06

@PauloCereda Let's become Welsh, what do you say?

Paulo Cereda

@egreg yaaaaay! :) I already know how to quack in Welsh! :)

Gigili

@yo' Thank you very much, so sweet of you!

Ulrike Fischer

18:43

@JosephWright MiKTeX finds files in a texmf "here" if you update the FNDB -- but naturally for auxiliary files like toc or aux this is a nuisance.

percusse

19:20

@Gigili What are you trying to depict in that? Matrix multiplication?

Gigili

Yes @percusse

percusse

@Gigili Then you can just replace d_1,d_2,... with 1,2,... same with the x's. You don't need transposes either. Also you can draw simple lines denoting rows and columns. It would be minimal and more to the point in my opinion.

Since there are three more ways to depict matrix multiplication (col space, row space so on) the less complicated it is the better.

Gigili

@percusse I'd rather not, since this notation is used everywhere in the paper

Self-explanatory, that is

percusse

@Gigili Then you have bigger problems :)

Gigili

I know, I know... sad panda smiley

Canageek

19:46

Is it possible to have two works cited sections in one document?

I've got to have a works cited section AND list all the papers I've published

So I was thinkign I could just use a works cited section for my papaers, but then I'd have to make two documents

Paulo Cereda

@Canageek Hi! There is a way, but I can't remember how. I think it was a biblatex solution, though.

Canageek

@PauloCereda Found it

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Q: Single .tex file, multiple .bib files

I am writing a collaborative document in which each author edits a main.tex file and provides a <author>.bib file (no \include, no \input ... I know it's not the ideal choice but it was not my decision). What we are having issues with is that we can't manage to have multiple bibliographies at th...

bibliographies bibtex subdividing

Max

Hi, I have a suer who needs chinese, french, german, russian and japanese in the same document and the roman font to be helvetica. Reading the questions here makes me a little bit weary of this task.

Canageek

Testing now

Max

what's a good place to start with mixing russian and japanese. Those seem hardest

yo'

19:57

@Max Should not be a problem with XeLaTeX and XeCJK. Check XeCJK documentation.

Then you just need a font that supports Russian.

Max

I would prefer lualatex if at all possible

I found luatexja-fontenc and luatexja, it just appears tricky to get it all working right

Christian Hupfer

Good maen

Canageek

Damn, I have to use a specific citation format

Li, H., Applicant, X.X., and Kay, M. (1994) Protein-structure interactions in cell membranes. Journal of Biological Chemistry. 269: 1120-1124 (PhD work).

Does anyone know what citation style that is, or must I do it by hand?

Canageek

20:21

I'll do it by hand, easier. BLeh.

egreg

@Canageek There are so many!

Canageek

@egreg Tell me about it.

@egreg And it has to reproduce the names as they were in the orgional article, not changed to a set citation style.

The REALLY stupid thing is I also am going to have to do a Canadian Common CV, aka a huge waste of time and money project that sipts out a 14 PAGE document for me (Profs are dozens of pages)

cfr

@egreg Good question. Unfortunately, I don't know the answer: I just found I was Welsh and don't remember any kind of application process. Perhaps you could try developing a taste for cawl and bara brith or Welsh cakes? If you live near a river, you could try coracling to work?

@PauloCereda @Canageek There are BibTeX solutions as well e.g. multibib (and chapterbib, but probably that's not suitable here).

egreg

@cfr Cawl and bara brith seem yummy. Coracling appears to be quite dangerous.

Canageek

@cfr Is throwing whomever wrote these guidelines into a pool of lava suitibale?

egreg

20:29

@Canageek I find this a very good idea! There are several other possibilities listed in Dante's inferno. We read it at school, you know.

Canageek

@egreg Want to see one of the reasons I hate it? Spot what is wrong with this statement: Margins must be set at a minimum of ¾" (1.87 cm);

egreg

@Canageek I like 10cm margins. ;-)

Canageek

@egreg Hint: 0.75" != 1.87 cm

0.75" = 1.905 cm

egreg

@Canageek Who cares about inches nowadays?

Canageek

@egreg Americans

@egreg Also Canadians, sometimes.

Joseph Wright

20:34

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egreg

@Canageek Let them alone. ;-)

Canageek

@egreg Since we are so close to the USA it bleeds over, so you can always spot a Canadian online as we will mix Metric and Imperial in the same sentence or paragraph.

@egreg But this is dumb. I figured out how they messed up this conversion. They used 2.5 cm to the inch (instead of the proper 2.54), Then truncated instead of rounding!

egreg

@Canageek You're lucky they didn't use 2 for simplicity.

@Canageek Probably they used M$ Excel for the computation.

Canageek

@egreg They probably did it using an old blue, 4 function Texas Instraments calculator left over from elementry school

egreg

@Canageek Or fingers.

Canageek

20:41

Ops. The alarm in the room next door is going off again. That will last a few hours till they get home.

Again

As happens every day.

/me should really leave a note

How do I tell Enumerate not to leave space between items?

looks at a really old document he did this in when he first learned LaTeX in 2011

egreg

@Canageek A suggestion for the note: I'm a serial killer who's extremely annoyed by alarms going off at bad times

@Canageek \usepackage{enumitem} and noitemsep option?

Canageek

@egreg Probably better then what I used at the time, to be honest

@egreg That isn't an option, but there is itemsep=0 (I think, testing)

egreg

@Canageek I was going on memory.

Canageek

Hurmmm that did not work

egreg

@Canageek But \begin{enumerate}[noitemsep] is what I was thinking to.

Canageek

20:51

@egreg Perfect, that works. Document is sufficently ugly now.

egreg

@Canageek In order to have all enumerate do it, type \setlist[enumerate]{noitemsep} in the preamble.

Canageek

@egreg I think I'll have only one, but I'll keep it in mind

Paulo Cereda

:)

cfr

21:10

@egreg @Canageek Tell that's the mistake NASA made...

@Canageek You should take a course on house breaking so that you can switch it off.

@JosephWright Can't that be scripted for convenience?

egreg

@PauloCereda Caron dimonio, con occhi di bragia

Henri Menke

Oh, come on!

Enthusiastic Student

Hi

may I ask a question? :(((

egreg

@HenriMenke $\acute{i}$

@EnthusiasticStudent Yes, if it's about cricket or the sport of the season, that is, rugby. ;-)

@EnthusiasticStudent I'm joking!

Enthusiastic Student

@egreg It's about a latex style in cricket stadiums!

egreg

21:24

@EnthusiasticStudent OK, then, fire off!

Enthusiastic Student

Today I asked a question

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Q: How to draw a rule without knowing its specific width?

I am trying to improve my CV which I am writing using LaTeX. I want to show section headings something like this But I do not know how to; Add white space next to the section title, which is equal to what appears before the text as shown in the example figure. Add a rule exactly the same as ...

rules

Looking at the answers,

I do not know how can I change the vertical space between the rules and the next paragraph.

Normally I need some white space bellow the rules to separate my titles and the paragraph or lists coming after.

egreg

@EnthusiasticStudent With Bernard's answer, you can do \stitle{Education}{1} which will leave an empty line.

But I'd change \\[#2\baselineskip] into \\*[#2\baselineskip] so no page break can take place between the title and the following text.

Enthusiastic Student

@egreg No, I prefer the other two answers... I have some problems with his spacing and text style as I posted in a comment to his answer...

egreg

@EnthusiasticStudent In Herbert's code change the last \par into \par\nopagebreak\vspace{2ex} or whatever spacing you want.

@EnthusiasticStudent I'd avoid Harish's answer: abusing \marginpar is wrong.

Enthusiastic Student

@egreg Can that "no page break can take place between the title and the following text"; happen here too?

egreg

21:30

@EnthusiasticStudent The \nopagebreak command takes care of it.

Enthusiastic Student

@egreg I like also like Herbert's code much more...

@egreg Ah... sorry... my last question was so foolish... I am so sorry...

egreg

\newcommand\stitle[1]{%
  \noindent\textcolor{darkcandyapplered}{%
    \hspace*{\dimexpr-\marginparwidth-\marginparsep}%
      \rule{\marginparwidth}{2ex}%
      \hspace{\marginparsep}\textbf{\textsf{#1}}}\hspace{\marginparsep}%
        \xhrulefill{darkcandyapplered}{2ex}\par\nopagebreak\vspace{2ex}}

@EnthusiasticStudent ^^^^^^

@EnthusiasticStudent Don't worry at all!

Enthusiastic Student

@egreg One more question

I don't want the indentation which happens to the paragraph after.

Can I add a \noindent syntax to some part of that new command?

egreg

@EnthusiasticStudent Sure: \par\nopagebreak\vspace{2ex}\noindent\ignorespaces

@EnthusiasticStudent But don't leave any blank line between \stitle{Education} and the following text. Otherwise some more complex method must be used.

@EnthusiasticStudent For a simple application like a CV it's not a big deal to comply with that.

Enthusiastic Student

@egreg Thanks...

Max

21:41

It appears lualatexja-fontspec is not really compatible with microtype and I am drowned in warnings like

Package microtype Warning: Unknown slot number of character
(microtype) `\textless '
(microtype) in font encoding `EU2' in protrusion list
(microtype) `T1-default'.

Enthusiastic Student

As far as I am a beginner in LaTeX, trying to improve my CV's code, helps me improve my knowledge in LaTeX....

Max

any idea how to get rid of these?

Enthusiastic Student

@egreg When \noindent\ignorespaces comes, it seems that the \nopagebreak is ignored...

egreg

@EnthusiasticStudent I'll add an answer

Enthusiastic Student

@egreg thanks

egreg

21:51

@EnthusiasticStudent It's on line

David Carlisle

@Max T1? are you using T1 encoded fonts with luatex?

Enthusiastic Student

@egreg Thanks... I need some time to focus on your answer... unfortunately I am not as fast as you :(

egreg

@EnthusiasticStudent It has none of the defects of the others: no page break after the title, no indent in the first paragraph. Adjust the spacings to suit.

Max

@DavidCarlisle not that I am aware iof. I think it might be done by microtype though

Enthusiastic Student

@egreg That's great... thanks...

David Carlisle

21:53

@egreg rugby, oh yes, how did Italy get on?

egreg

@DavidCarlisle I applied for welshmanship.

David Carlisle

@Max I was wondering abut that T1-default message but without any code to try I'm not wondering very much.

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Anyway it got on just like England did.

David Carlisle

@egreg You have never done anything useful for Wales like add accented y into latex. They will reject you.

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Much before your late addition:

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A: utf8x vs. utf8 (inputenc)

Don't use utf8x; with an up-to-date TeX distribution it could show necessary only for its most obscure features (faking characters with images from the Web, for instance). The problem with Greek, which was probably the main reason for adopting utf8x instead of utf8, have since be solved and \do...

3

A: To input symbols with utf8 codes beyond the standard utf8 packet in Latex

If you're tied to pdflatex, you can use newunicodechar for easing the definition of unsupported characters. \documentclass[12pt]{article} \usepackage[T2A,T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} \usepackage[russian,english]{babel} \usepackage{amsmath} \usepackage{amssymb} \usepackage{wasysym} \...

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