I have one small typography-historical question: In both Palatino and Euler, you see strongly asymmetric summation symbol, the lower part is wider than the upper part. Is this seen in some classical mathematical typography?
@daleif Thanks. Well, now it got quite well with me in general, without microtype. And I don't really need it now, for the same reason for which I don't care about bad boxes now :)
@yo' I was trying to see if we could use the introduction as a MWE for @UlrikeFischer to look at (there was a similar question over the weekend). Your setup is a little "strange" ;-), so I'll try and rewrite it such that we have something generic for her to look at.
@yo' As someone mentioned, that is because those fonts are so much larger. For now it might be best to look into why it is so slow with just a simpler setup. BTW: I'd still load microtype at the very end when you're not adding more stuff.
In pdfTeX, the \pdfelapsedtime primitive gives access to the time since this pdfTeX run was started, in "scaled seconds" (1/65536 seconds). This is useful to benchmark code: repeat it many times, and test the time it takes.
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\long\def\tenfold#1{#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1#1}
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I am working with http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/textprocessing/ThesisStyle/
After running BibTeX and PDFLaTeX twice my Appendices disappearing.
How can I fix it?
Thank you.
@Johannes_B Well I would say, that if the bibliography is able to "eat" an appendix, then something is seriously wrong with some entries. But it would cost quite some time to extract log and blg-files and other sensible information.
@UlrikeFischer It seems to be the loading of the microtype.cfg files that give the main slow down. TL15 noticeably stops when lualatex is loading them. That loading is much faster with pdflatex
a tracingmacros roughly around the loading lead to 60000 lines of log in pdflatex and around 8 Millions with lualatex. And a look lead to this comment in the documention/implementation pf `\MT@do@font`: `Execute <#1> ... resp. 1114111 times for LuaTeX (this is going to be slow, but LuaTeX is slow anyway – still, there ought to be a better way!)` After `\renewcommand\MT@max@slot{10000}` it was much faster. There really should be a better way, it doesn't make sense to setup whole unicode.
@michal.h21 well, we all know that font loading is the issue, but it's not so serious for me now. The problem is now that it's microtype, too, and I use \textls in chapter titles...
@Johannes_B It's very uneven in its coverage, and focuses too much on old packages that nobody should be using, without mentioning others that are in common use. But I have no time to work on this. Also is WikiBooks supposed to be exhaustive in coverage or is it supposed to reflect best practices?
@JosephWright well, yes, of course, it does what it was meant for, but not what the user expects (I've heard @David is an expert on this type of issues...)
@AlanMunn The wikibook needs a lot of care, but i can't work on all topics for a lack of knowledge. Personally, i don't think it should be exhaustive. Mostly starters of a field look stuff up there, so i think clear statements with up-to-date practices should be highlighted.
@yo' fontenc shouldn't be a problem, but the missing inputenc part would break non-ascii-chars, try luainputenc in such cases (but I don't recommend it for a real document. You should better switch to other fonts better suited for an unicode engine).
@daleif Yes. I wonder how often microtype goes through the 1114111-loop in real documents .... With xelatex it is much faster, one will have to ask Robert what is missing here.
@AlanMunn No. Haven't had time to test it (not a problem really, just wanted to end up with a test setup that I can also access from home). Then I can do LaTeX tests on Linux, windows (10) and Mac OS X 10.10 from home.
[OT] Win10: Updates will need a restart, we have scheduled a reboot at 3am. Erh, Windows, you do realize this is is a laptop. Do you really think it will be running at 3am?
Might be an idea if MS would use the approach that Linux use and inform the user, that we need a reboot.
In (La)TeX source code definitions are sometimes written with a space after \def and with a space after the control-sequence being defined. For example, these two lines come from miniltx.tex:
\long\def \@gobbletwo #1#2{}
...
\long\def\@firstoftwo#1#2{#1}
As far as I can tell, the extra one or...
@JosephWright Compiling the example (question) with overleaf i get correct output, texwelt.de/wissen/fragen/4942/…. (Öffne in Onlineeditor directly fires up the example in overleaf)
@Johannes_B There are some monosyllables in Italian that are spelled with or without an accent, with different meanings. Compare the pair né/ne (conjunction/pronoun) with the pair sé/se (pronoun/conjunction). During my LaTeX course I explain the decision rule for the accent: at school nobody learns it.
@egreg sms are freestyle here as well, i write everything lowercased. But i think punctuation is important. A few friends of mine completely ignore the fact that puctuation marks are freely available for everyone, leaving the parsing part of the sentences/partial sentences/groups of vaguely linked nonsense to me.
@AlanMunn We have a user in the german forum posting snippets and still getting help. The last post i read had some kind of haha, got help again without any effort
@yo' No, that's just not worth it. If there's a steady supply of "I did it for you" answers, voting on the questions doesn't do much anyway.
@Johannes_B Wow, that's pretty rude. On the other hand, I'm not a big fan of the "every question requires a MWE" crowd; I think there are plenty of questions that can be answered without one, and some people seem to reflexively post that kind of comment on any question that doesn't no matter what.
@clemens To be honest, i don't have any wikibook experience, but it needs fixing. Since you are the author of acro, just go ahead. I take responsibility :-)
I am working with http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/textprocessing/ThesisStyle/
After running BibTeX and PDFLaTeX twice my Appendices disappearing.
How can I fix it?
Thank you.
In (La)TeX source code definitions are sometimes written with a space after \def and with a space after the control-sequence being defined. For example, these two lines come from miniltx.tex:
\long\def \@gobbletwo #1#2{}
...
\long\def\@firstoftwo#1#2{#1}
As far as I can tell, the extra one or...
