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Riley

14:24

@WheatWizard I had a feeling you could save a few bytes by using uppercase TRICK and TREAT.

Wheat Wizard

I'm actually a bit surprised its only 4 bytes

I have another idea that takes advantage of the differences between the languages to shave off a couple bytes

Riley

14:45

@WheatWizard Me too.

I know I can shave off a few more. Hopefully I'll some time to work on it later.

Wheat Wizard

I'm down to 125 so it better be good

1 hour later…

DJMcMayhem

15:51

@WheatWizard One more (potential) BFBD:

in The Nineteenth Byte, 15 mins ago, by Pavel

CMC: Given a string of balanced brackets (){}{}<>, output the position of the bracket closing the first one. E.G. ({()}<[]>){{}} -> 9/10 (0/1-indexed)

Wheat Wizard

Cool idea

DJMcMayhem

16:10

Yeah, it's got a really fun vim solution:

in The Nineteenth Byte, 32 mins ago, by DJMcMayhem

@Pavel vim, 10 bytes: %DVr<C-a>C1<esc>@"

Wheat Wizard

@DJMcMayhem Brain-Flak's Birthday is the 29th

I was also planning on doing the challenges one per day leading up to the 29th so that each question gets more attention. Rather than flooding all of them at once

Riley

Do we have a challenge to generate all balanced strings from a list of characters? Would something like that be a good challenge?

Wheat Wizard

What do you mean?

Riley

Given a list of character e.g. "`(())`" print/return all balanced string from those characters:
()()
(())

Wheat Wizard

Oh thats a pretty cool idea

I'm a bit surprised no one has done that.

Riley

16:22

I didn't see a dup, but I didn't look very hard.

Wheat Wizard

There seem to be a lot of balanced string questions that have not been asked yet

imo its a bit of an untapped gold mine

DJMcMayhem

@Riley Maybe for simpler input format, you could instead have a number for each bracket type. So that input would be (): 2

@WheatWizard Absolutely agree. There's a lot of good challenges based off of balanced strings

Which is nice since any balanced string challenge could be an in honor of brain-flak challenge

Riley

@DJMcMayhem I was thinking about that too. A list of numbers corresponding to each bracket type. E.g. "(){}{}[][][]<><><><>" would be [1,2,3,4].

DJMcMayhem

@WheatWizard How many BFBD are we up to now?

Pavel

Wheat Wizard

16:31

3 sandboxed ones iirc

plus the two in chat

DJMcMayhem

Pavel's and Riley's?

Wheat Wizard

Yee

Pavel

Maybe make a hackmd, list them, pin it here?

Riley

I'll Sandbox mine tonight if I have time.

Pavel

Yeah, same.

DJMcMayhem

16:33

I think each challenge should have the same header linking to somewhere explaining what the BFBD are

Wheat Wizard

@Pavel Don't know what a hackmd is but sounds like a good idea

DJMcMayhem

I'm just not sure where to link

Chat would be easiest. Meta would be nice, but probably OT

Pavel

@WheatWizard Globally editable markdown document

Wheat Wizard

Ok I guessed it was something similar

Pavel

Brain-Flak's Birthday

DJMcMayhem

16:34

Maybe a gist?

Wheat Wizard

Could we maybe make a meta question kind of like the sandbox or indefinite bounties?

Pavel

Pin ^^^ ?

DJMcMayhem

Done

Pavel

Hackmd is nice for planning anything with multiple people. It also saves versions, so it can be recovered if someone nukes it.

DJMcMayhem

I can't find 1000000000's profile, lol

Wheat Wizard

16:39

It is 0 <twenty horizontal tabs> '

I think his user number is 20059 or something

0 ', New York, United States

1.6k 1 5 23

Pavel

Crud, I GTG

DJMcMayhem

Yeah, just found it. Thanks!

Bye Pavel!

@WheatWizard I'm not sure if you were the editor, but it's definitely the 30th

Wheat Wizard

Wait i'm on github and it is sayiung 29th

DJMcMayhem

o_O

Wheat Wizard

Ok I see

DJMcMayhem

16:42

Is it a timezone thing?

Wheat Wizard

we have had this conversation before

DJMcMayhem

Cause if it is, we should stick with UTC

Wheat Wizard

The network diagram does a weird thing with dates

DJMcMayhem

So which one is it?

Wheat Wizard

DJMcMayhem

16:45

One thing I would love to do somewhere is first-year stats.

When I posted Happy Birthday V, I wrote:

Wheat Wizard

I realize it had the same controls as nano and tried to cut but it turns out they are only similar commands and it just deletes. ;_;

DJMcMayhem

> Over V's first year of existence, there have been 176 commits from four different contributors, 140 answers from 12 different users, and too many broken duplicate operators to count.

> It has an online interpreter, generously hosted by @Dennis, which has been run almost 8,000 times since December.

I'd love to do the same thing for brain-flak

So we'll need some answer stats

Wheat Wizard

Well we have 232 commits across 5 users

DJMcMayhem

And four language-variants

Wheat Wizard

I can count answers

DJMcMayhem

16:47

(or three depending on how you count)

Wheat Wizard

DJMcMayhem

Oh, wow

What are they?

Flak, mini, classic, flueue, cats... (2 more?)

Wheat Wizard

fλak

Actually just 6

The 7th one I have not released

DJMcMayhem

Oh cool. What is it (roughly)?

Wheat Wizard

actually I have 2 I have not released

DJMcMayhem

16:49

I've also had another variant bouncing around in my head for a while, but I'm not very happy with it yet, so I haven't said anything about it

Wheat Wizard

fλak is intended to be a functional version of Brain-Flak. It replaces the ability to loop with function calls.

It is a bit of a neglected project especially since I started work on Flap-Jack which is another function Brain-Flak derivative

DJMcMayhem

Hahaha, great name

What's it like?

Wheat Wizard

It adds a function array. You can declare new functions with <...> which just pushes them to the back of the array and you can call them with {n} which runs the nth function

here is the github. As you can tell its a bit neglected

DJMcMayhem

That sounds like lambda flak. How does flap-jack work?

Wheat Wizard

Flap jack replaces everything with functions

two stacks that only hold functions

they can be manipulated a lot like Brain-Flak integers

unfortunately because of the way it is currently set up the only IO is whether or not it halts

The last language I am working on is Micro-flak. Which is more of a proof than a language. I don't want to jump the gun, but I am damn near sure that there is a Brian-Flak subset smaller than Miniflak that is TC

DJMcMayhem

16:57

@WheatWizard Alright, I don't have stats on the number of answers, but I can see 17 users:

> Pavel, Riley, DJMcMayhem, Wheatwizard, Megatom, Destructible lemon, Erik, 0', Down Cristopher, Leaky Nun, Feersum, Zwei, Martin Ender, Mistah Figgins, JungHwan Min, Dennis, and Chance

OK, I gtg

Wheat Wizard

When I'm counting the number of answers in Brain-Flak should I count all of the answer-chaining polyglots?

DJMcMayhem

I think answer chaining should only count when brain-flak (or a variant) is explicitly added

Wheat Wizard

ok will do

Wheat Wizard

17:35

I'm also not counting answers on Robber's threads

Wheat Wizard

17:52

Ok of the 206 non-tips answers mentioning Brain-Flak

1 was in Brain-Flak Classic

4 were answers on Robber's threads

28 were simply not in Brain-Flak

49 were answer-chaining answers that did not introduce Brain-Flak

That leaves 124 answers

DJMcMayhem

18:11

I wonder what the ranking of answers by user is

I'm sure you're first, and pretty sure I'm second

Riley third probably? Idrk

Riley

I have 26 answers.

I don't know about either of you.

Pavel

What are we posting on the 30th?

DJMcMayhem

@Riley Ha! I have 26 too

Wheatwizard has more than the two of us combined (72)

Pavel

I was not aware I had a Brain-Flak answer.

Riley

Looks like about 60 for Wheatwizard

DJMcMayhem

18:15

I doubt anyone else has more than 10

Pavel

What should I call my challenge?

Riley

If we all counted right, there are only 12 answers from anyone else.

DJMcMayhem

Well, I counted 17 users, so there's a mistake in there somewhere

Pavel

Oh, here it is codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/110092/…

3 hours later…

Dennis

21:03

@DJMcMayhem 6,732 times as of right now.

DJMcMayhem

In what time frame?

Dennis

Birth of Nexus til now.

So December2016-ish.

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