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Pavel

01:55

@WheatWizard What changed?

Wheat Wizard

Thansk!

Pavel

Brain-Flak seems like a pretty simple language.

Not much to patch in.

Wheat Wizard

btw 1.4.0 adds supports for some more Brain-Flak related languages, so if you need to count the languages supported by TIO you can add +3

@Pavel You can read the additions here

Pavel

Thx

What's Brain-Flueue and how do you select the language to use?

Wheat Wizard

--language=<language name>

Brain-Flueue is Brain-Flak with queues instead of stacks

Pavel

01:59

o_0
Seems hard

Wheat Wizard

it is kind of a joke language but I find it quite rewarding to program in

It is harder than Brain-Flak

Pavel

feature-request: Make Mini-flak parse <> as comments and not errors.

Wheat Wizard

@Pavel Hm. I'm not sure perhaps you should add an issue so it can be discussed further.

DJMcMayhem

@Pavel and by comment you mean they're just ignored right? Cause # is the rest of this line is a comment

Pavel

Well, yeah. Every other character without a function quietly does nothing.

Otherwise you can't make fancy brain-flak/mini-flak polyglots.

Wheat Wizard

02:06

@Pavel Every miniflak program is a brain-flak polyglot

Pavel

But then they do the same thing.

Say I want to make an addition to "Add a language to a polyglot" with mini-flak.

DJMcMayhem

A brain-flak/mini-flak Polyglot would be really really impressive (assuming it used brain-flak features)

Wheat Wizard

Now I want to try the Trick or Treat Polyglot

DJMcMayhem

Oh that would be awesome!

Pavel

Though it doesn't seem to hard, now that I think about it. Push "Trick", switch, push "Treat", switch, pop top 5 items, switch.

Wheat Wizard

02:15

Lets move over to the third stack

Pavel

@Dennis ^ please move messages

Wheat Wizard

@Pavel it can be done pretty easily the challenge is to do it well

A real challenge would be to do Trick or Treat in Brain-Flak and Brain-Flueue

Pavel

Ha, yeah.

Wheat Wizard

Which language should be wchich word?

Pavel

Treat has lower ASCII values, but I don't know if that actually matters for anything.

Dennis

02:23

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Pavel

You do have to make mini-flak allow <> first, though.

Wheat Wizard

I am doing this just for fun rn

I will probably add it in the future though for more fun

short Kolmogorov complexity is one of my favorite things to do in Brain-Flak

Pavel

Idea: Answer "Versatile integer printer" with all 4 supported languages.

Wheat Wizard

the current one works for miniflak

and should work most of the time for brain-flueue

and sometimes for Brain-Flak classic

Wheat Wizard

02:42

I will straight up give 300 rep to anyone that can come up with a brain-flak/brain-flueue Trick or Treat Polyglot (before I do).

Pavel

You should make an indefinite bounty.

Wheat Wizard

If I have not found a way to do it by tomorrow I will

Pavel

Is there a nifty program for converting ascii to brain-flak code?

I don't particularly want to do it by hand.

Also what's the flag for ASCII output again

Wheat Wizard

-A

or -c

for kolmo they are the same

@Pavel No it is a really complex task (also really fun). the integer metagolfer is helpful though

Here it is

Pavel

Thanks

I think I found a way to do it, but it's going to be terribly terribly long.

You'll probably be able to outgolf me easily, I can't encode large strings to save my life.

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Riley

14:04

@WheatWizard I posted one here, but Destructible Lemon posted his first.

DJMcMayhem

15:02

@Riley Thanks for actually golfing your answer. I appreciate that

IMO your answer is waaaaay more deserving of the bounty. He just minimal effort FGITW'd it

Riley

@DJMcMayhem I golfed 85% of the bytes off the other one too :)

DJMcMayhem

And yet the other one will get all of the upvotes/Glory

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Wheat Wizard

16:24

@Riley I intend to give another 200 rep to the shortest one.

though I already have one shorter than yours so you should watch out

Riley

@WheatWizard I know I can make mine better, I just haven't had time yet. Do you use the same method as mine?

Wheat Wizard

No I actually use the same method as DestructableLemon

Riley

16:57

@WheatWizard Is 265 close to yours?

Wheat Wizard

140

Riley

Wow. I have a long way to go.

Wheat Wizard

I do it the other way around (brainflueue prints treat) my version for the way you are doing it is 146

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Wheat Wizard

18:00

@Riley I see you got it down to 165. Nice

Riley

@WheatWizard 139

Wheat Wizard

And it looks like you beat me congrats

This was my solution

and the other way around

Riley

Do you have a commented version?

Wheat Wizard

I wrote it without comments

I'll make a full post explaining how it works when I get the chance

Riley

Did you write it spread out with different numbers on different lines? That would be helpful too.

That's how I usually do it.

Wheat Wizard

18:09

Nope

sorry I wrote it all on one line

Riley

That's impressive.

Wheat Wizard

I'll try to break it up in a sensible way

Riley

You don't need to unless you want to post it.

Wheat Wizard

Here is it decomposed

Riley

Is -d broken?

Wheat Wizard

18:16

yeah

I'm looking into that right now

only on TIO so its a little hard to test

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