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Jasper Habicht

05:40

In expl3, if I use V expansion on a boolean, the result is 0 or 1 which is fine, but I can then not access this value using \bool_if:nTF it seems

So, I should probably not use V expansion, but something like bool_if_q:n?

The answer seems to be yes. At least this way it works

Jasper Habicht

06:20

I wonder whether V expansion of booleans shouldn't expand to \c_true_bool or \c_false_bool?

enkorvaks

06:33

This discussion on character sets is something which may interest some people here (at least, it interested me enough to want to share...) retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/31315/…

Joseph Wright

06:45

@JasperHabicht Yes

Jasper Habicht

07:17

Ah, manual says: v type expansion is not supported for bool. I guess there was a long discussion about this

Joseph Wright

@JasperHabicht There is no \bool_use:N so there is no V-type support

Jasper Habicht

@JosephWright Yes. Makes a lot of sense

cfr

@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle blames you for things he doesn't expect when you are not here ;).

Joseph Wright

@cfr :)

@cfr I'll take a look in a bit - just rebuilding .tlg files ATM

cfr

07:40

@JosephWright or you could blame him for what he expects?

it is not what I expected either, but that is par for the course so I am probably not worth the trouble of blaming.

Joseph Wright

07:52

@cfr :)

Joseph Wright

08:07

@DavidCarlisle FMi

Joseph Wright

08:41

@cfr, @DavidCarlisle I'll see if Frank remembers why he set it up this way

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David Carlisle

10:02

@JosephWright it looks like it is designed to handle dos text file tests on linux, but I'm not sure why

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle We could change in l3build without impacting on the 2e repo: the latter uses it's own test2e.tex definition

@DavidCarlisle I wonder if it was to do with @UlrikeFischer's need to use Windows files - but as they are all generated files, I don't see where the issue comes from

Ulrike Fischer

@JosephWright you mean about \SHOWFILE? I don't remember any discussion about that. When was the ^^M implemented?

David Carlisle

@JosephWright yes my thought was to blame @UlrikeFischer's tests but like you I couldn't see a workflow where this would show up

@cfr as you see from the above, it may be that we can blame Frank or Joseph or Ulrike, but the important thing to take away from your question is: don't blame me.

mickep

Why are you \SCREAMING so much these days? ;)

Joseph Wright

10:18

@DavidCarlisle Quite

@UlrikeFischer Frank Mittelbach 6 years ago (September 28th, 2018 10:45 AM)

@UlrikeFischer SHA 3e11288bb8c070ce93893229f92992dbcf91596a

@UlrikeFischer github.com/latex3/l3build/commit/…

Ulrike Fischer

@JosephWright can't be me, I joined in october 2018 ;-)

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer :)

Joseph Wright

10:34

@cfr Could you log an issue about \SHOWFILE with an example of the issue - best to discuss there rather than here or on the team list (not visible to others)

@cfr ?

@cfr (@DavidCarlisle, @UlrikeFischer) I will though also prod Frank directly

Ulrike Fischer

@cfr but why are the ^^M a problem for you? I saw them too in some texts (e.g. when I show the created mathml in some tests) but I simply ignore them. From a point of the test the only thing that matters are changes ,