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5:25 AM
@StefanKottwitz there is no need for that, afaik, he knows this very well.
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6:04 AM
what's happening here?
 
6:29 AM
@jokerdino Some grumbling about promotion here and rumors (link) but I guess I should have done it in a quiet way to be not part of it. I would leave it at that now.
Another day, other topics.
 
 
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7:44 AM
@StefanKottwitz The whole “promotional material” strawman argument is a bit disconcerting when this is really specifically about topanswers.xyz.
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8:39 AM
@jokerdino something that really upsets me :(
 
yo'
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz well, I think it's called sh*tstorm, but I'm no expert.
 
@yo' it's not such storm if only one person is ranting if I remember correctly.
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@HenriMenke See my previous messages, I'm fine to not continuing talking about that topanswers.xyz promotion, since @AlanMunn has a point, at some time it's annoying. But I shall answer you.
@HenriMenke My original post did not contain topanswers.xyz. I used @user_likes_viagra.com or @user_is_at_bitcoin.cc as fictional examples. Also, to avoid being heavily downvoted by the topanswers.xyz fans here. Since 6 downvotes hit me immediately, I called the elephant in the room by it's name (after the word edit).
@HenriMenke The strawman agument is, is may be about the topanswers, but it's actually currently only topanswers that I see promoting here that way. Tell me another one?
I rather hoped we may get a reference for local netiquette to avoid names like @user_likes_viagra.com or @user_is_at_bitcoin.cc, but now I understand the voted result: @user_likes_viagra.com or @user_is_at_bitcoin.cc shall be allowed.
 
yo'
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz that makes sense. (As I said, I'm no expert)
 
@HenriMenke I rather hoped we may get a reference for local netiquette to avoid names like @user_likes_viagra.com or @user_is_at_bitcoin.cc, but now topanswer friends delivered us a precedent for reference and I understand the voted result: This site name promo, and to not treat web sites differently, @user_likes_viagra.com or @user_is_at_bitcoin.cc shall be allowed.
As above, I hope we can finish that now. I saw the topanswers maintainer posted a good statement.
 
8:48 AM
quack
@AlanMunn ooh
 
yo'
9:04 AM
@StefanKottwitz well, this example is exaggerated; you would probably consider these malacious e.g. even in the user's profile. However, that's not the case for other TeX-related websites, as your own profile shows :-)
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@yo' As I answered the TA maintainer (his post in the meta thread), profile texts and links are fine for me, since they are rather passive and not repetitive.
 
yo'
@StefanKottwitz so is it fine for you if a user has viagra.com mentioned in their profile text?
 
Woo, from 1GB to 233MB, nothing bad for a good video codec. :)
 
@yo' Common sense, there's a wide range between Q&A sites, forums, homepages, and commercial sites, or even fraudulent or malicious sites. The latter I did not see here.
 
So the Arctic vault thingy means that we are freezing bugs as well? ooh
 
9:11 AM
@PauloCereda And parrots ;)
 
@TeXnician YES
 
@PauloCereda and squirrels!
 
@Rmano ooh
 
@yo' Regarding that example: Maybe even the official manufacturer site is ok. Maybe a normal seller is ok. If it's a very promoted sales site, like those pharmacy addresses we get in actual spam mails, I would be very sceptical.
 
yo'
@StefanKottwitz well, that didn't answer the question. And yes I agree, it is common sense, but in the same way, it's (IMHO) common sense to allow users to have anything in their username which is not considered malacious.
 
9:12 AM
@yo' Our messages crossed, I answered the question right above yours. I did not check if viagra.com is from the manufacturer or a SEO site for sales, whatever.
@yo' Yes, that was the point of the meta question, to ask the community to which extend (for example) URLs in user names are ok.
 
yo'
@StefanKottwitz sorry, I don't see our messages crossing in any way. You answered to the question about what is allowed in the profile text by saying that this is common sense. I countered it with saying that what is allowed in the username is the same common sense.
 
@yo' Wasn't the question you mean, viagra.com mentioned in their profile text?
 
yo'
@StefanKottwitz well, the point is, I am 100% against saying what should or shouldn't be in the username, other than clearly malacious content (like Moderator that was discussed many years ago)
@StefanKottwitz yep
 
This discussion doesn't seem to go any further.
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@yo' I did answer there (link)? confused
 
yo'
9:17 AM
I'm sorry, but keeping mixing topanswers (or any websited) into the discussion about how annoying it is to have 30 character username is plain wrong, as I mentioned before
 
Hi mr. dino bloke!
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yo'
and I agree with @jokerdino, this doesn't go anywhere. Have a good day.
 
@yo' You too!
 
yo'
@StefanKottwitz one last thing: yes, you did. For profile text. I don't understand why it shan't apply for usernames just the same.
 
@PauloCereda hi
 
9:19 AM
@yo' Ah, that one! Yes, I said, in contrast to user name handles, "profile texts and links are fine for me, since they are rather passive and not repetitive." And the meta question was about promotional material in user names, not profiles. See you.
 
@StefanKottwitz sorry I don't think that it is fair to put topanswers "in the same drawer" as viagra or bitcoins. And if you dislike a name so much that it is painful for you to use it in pings, then don't use it. Some time ago, somehow choose the name "LaTeXhater" and as consequence I choose to ignore this user.
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I wasn't gonna go visit the website under discussion if it wasn't brought up in meta and chat. It's too much work to copy the text and visit the website, as it is not a clickable URL.
And after visiting the website, I closed it because.. yeah.
 
@UlrikeFischer Thinks are only painful if they get very repetitive, that happened and so I questioned it. I got a lot of arguments, I'm tired of responding, so I try it with the ignoring advice.
 
We should replace usernames by their hashes, so my username would become 9863e4ab946fb202c41c92aa91f02d76. :)
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Thanks for your input @9863e4
 
9:30 AM
Thanks mr. @9bb473! <3
Ducks and dinosaurs are very good at hashing
 
@PauloCereda 'behind the scenes' of course they are numbers :)
 
@PauloCereda and for making the day bright :-)
 
@StefanKottwitz quack <3
@JosephWright wait, are you telling me that all in all we are just another brick in the wall?
ooh a nice line bass
 
@Paulo test ping! does it work with shortened names? (I never noticed it used and if it works only in close chat proximity or pings all Paulos)
 
@StefanKottwitz ack :)
 
9:34 AM
@PauloCereda You can call me @Stefan :-)
 
You only need first three letters to ping people in chat.
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@StefanKottwitz but I remember a ping from samcarter in meta for Paulo Ney using just Paulo and I got the message instead (probably him too).
@jokerdino ooh more dino tweaks
 
@jokerdino Do you know a solution for shortening handles also in chat replies?
 
Unless there are multiple people with same starting letters visiting the chat room in the last 3(?) days.
Direct replies to chat messages can't be tweaked like that. Unless you create an userscript to replace the text I suppose.
 
@PauloCereda It's also a Paulo in Brazil, so the artificial intelligence was close to it!
 
9:37 AM
@PauloCereda I was probably messing this up. I was the first to post a comment under Paulo Neys answer, so @pings normally don't work but I added it manually. Not sure why you were pinged, but probably I was not supposed to add it.
 
@samcarter_left_tex.se nah it's a secret duck message forwarding protocol thingy :)
 
@PauloCereda ah, that explains it :)
 
sounds quack secure to me
 
@StefanKottwitz the other Paulo is a bit far from SP. :)
 
@jokerdino So, did you start with beamer yet?
 
9:39 AM
@PauloCereda Big country that is! And duck message forwarding even works!
 
@samcarter_left_tex.se no, I am just selling LaTeX typesetting for office work.
We are currently suffering with MS Word evil formatting when issuing documents.
 
@jokerdino :) Sounds like nice work
 
Once I convince at least one other person, I will start beaming people up.
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@jokerdino Oh, you're Scottie!
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@StefanKottwitz :)
@samcarter_left_tex.se ooh nerd talk, I am in
 
9:44 AM
@jokerdino Here I mean to say, I am convincing my office people to use LaTeX for typesetting. I am not actually selling any typesetting service.
@PauloCereda I am also convinced your favourite dish is quackamole.
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@jokerdino LOL
 
@PauloCereda Given that today is both space exploration day (daysoftheyear.com/days/space-exploration-day/…) and Moon day (daysoftheyear.com/days/moon-day/?timezone_offset=nan) I suggest reading this important thread: space.stackexchange.com/q/44957
 
@samcarter_left_tex.se OMG
 
@StefanKottwitz Oh, I'm not in favour of promotion in usernames and especially topanswers.xyz at all. I just disliked the constructed argument. Banning specifically topanswers from usernames is a sound decision, in my opinion, in particular because the whole premise of topanswers is to avoid the “Stack Exchange censorship”, i.e. the fact that these people can't shitpost here.
 
9:49 AM
@jokerdino the sad thing is that I never had guacamole...
I heard the jurassic police has a lot of triceracops! :)
 
@HenriMenke I'll invite you to my talk about TopTeX on Saturday for a short summary what the idea of TopTeX is about
 
Do you know who created the jurassic TeX? It was prof. PteraDon Knuth. :)
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@PauloCereda Another interesting thread is space.stackexchange.com/q/27557 Unfortunately my local book seller estimates the chances to get the book mentioned in the comment space.stackexchange.com/questions/27557/… to approximately 0%
 
@samcarter_left_tex.se oh my! :)
@samcarter_left_tex.se wow, I found a very (ab)used copy available in Amazon BR, the price is insane, close to EUR 100!
 
@PauloCereda wow, that's really insane!
 
9:58 AM
@samcarter_left_tex.se I was convinced it was designed by Howard W. in Big Bang Theory... :-O
 
@Rmano :) yeah, that's why a backup plan is so important
 
10:12 AM
@PauloCereda :D
 
@HenriMenke Sounds good!
 
@jokerdino Dear me! There is really a T. Rex called Scotty: smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/…
 
@samcarter_left_tex.se ooh
 
If we paint this green, it will look just like @jokerdino
 
@samcarter_left_tex.se yay
@samcarter_left_tex.se also we need a cup of tea
 
10:21 AM
... \usepackage{xcolor} \colorlet{dinocolour}{green}
@PauloCereda No problem:
 
@samcarter_left_tex.se oooooh
 
@samcarter_left_tex.se I 'member
 
@jokerdino A couple of years ago, I met a relative of yours in Berlin. His name was Tristan
 
Let's not talk about him. He was a total doofus.
 
@jokerdino :) He did not reply to any question I asked him!
 
10:26 AM
If he replied at all, you would find it barebones.
 
yeah, talking to living green dinos is much more interesting
 
A cup of tea; good enough for me.
 
ooh perhaps green dinos did photosynthesis
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@jokerdino LOL
 
10:30 AM
@samcarter_left_tex.se OMG
 
@PauloCereda that explains the laser raptors.
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz ooh a theory
Almost like the theory of the brontos
@JosephWright ^^
 
 
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12:08 PM
Is it right that you can @-ping post editors in the comments, even when their username is not auto-completed?
 
Yes
 
@jokerdino how do you know so much about SE's pinging rules/mechanisms? :)
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Wannabe ping pong player :D
On a serious note, some things you just learn along the way.
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz ooh a dino expert
 
@yo' jokerdino is right if course, but if you want a more official response with the full rules, you can look at meta.stackexchange.com/questions/43019/…
 
yo'
12:14 PM
Thanks guys!
 
 
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2:13 PM
The tail comes into play.
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2:23 PM
Ah
 
2:41 PM
 
@PauloCereda Ohhh! How could we live without this?
 
@samcarter_left_tex.se :)
 
3:14 PM
I think I have my slides sorted: not using very many :)
Going to risk live-demos!
 
@JosephWright don't :)
 
@JosephWright no risk no fun ;-)
 
@UlrikeFischer but avoids explanation. :)
 
3:32 PM
@PauloCereda, @UlrikeFischer I started on some slides, but they all ended up as basically screenshots, so I decided just to have a couple
 
@JosephWright Record a demo then. :)
No need to be live. :)
 
@PauloCereda Oh, yes, that's what I mean: no slides, just websites: could still go wrong
@PauloCereda Probably doing it tomorrow at work
 
@JosephWright Wanna see mine?
 
@PauloCereda Of course!
 
@JosephWright link sent
 
3:35 PM
@JosephWright don't make it too fast -- people need a bit time to locate everything if they never saw the site before.
 
@UlrikeFischer Got it
@UlrikeFischer I'll try to pace it right, fingers-crossed
 
@JosephWright Apply zoom. :)
 
my bag got stolen today ;-(
 
@UlrikeFischer oh no! I am so sorry to hear!
 
@UlrikeFischer Oh goodness
 
3:39 PM
@UlrikeFischer oh my
 
@UlrikeFischer Where were you?
 
@JosephWright Berlin, in the breakfast room of the hotel. They took it from my chair while I was sitting in it and eating. Everything in it - smartphone, cards, money, identity cards. But the hotel just wrote an hour ago that the police found it - minus money and keys but the rest is there. Uff.
 
hmmpf
 
@UlrikeFischer oh my
 
@PauloCereda I'm recovering now - and I learned a bit how to look cards. The best was the SIM card: the website had a menu, but they sent a code to the handy for confimation ;-).
 
3:44 PM
@UlrikeFischer oopsie
@UlrikeFischer would you like to see my talk, as a distraction?
 
@PauloCereda sure.
 
@UlrikeFischer Oh my goodness
 
@JosephWright I'm really grateful that they found it and I was lucky that I had a mail from the hotel in it, so the police knew where to go. The money is not a problem, I never have very much in it, but currently it take weeks until you get a new identity card and setting up a new phone it trouble too.
 
@UlrikeFischer <3
 
@UlrikeFischer Very sorry to hear this. The other thing to be careful of is any sensitive sites that require two factor authentication via text message.
 
4:00 PM
@AlanMunn yes, on the way back I was already starting to make a list of all site where I should perhaps change the passwords. And I have also some authentification means on the smartphone. But as it has been recovered, I won't have to work through it.
 
@UlrikeFischer so sorry to hear!
@UlrikeFischer plus the keys, depending on where you live and spare keys this tends to be very annoying.
 
@UlrikeFischer a surprise duck e-mail for you
 
@PauloCereda ;-)))))
 
@UlrikeFischer :-o You have my commiseration for this unfortunate accident. Are you all right?
 
@Skillmonlikestopanswers.xyz it won't be too bad, but until I have new keys we will have to organize the coming and going ;-).
@UlrichDiez yes sure it was a very fast and invisible thief - I even didn't see anyone passing - and from now on I will put my bags on the table or before my feets ...
 
4:10 PM
@JosephWright did you manage to learn Gregorian chant? :)
 
4:23 PM
@UlrikeFischer The fact that you're okay takes away some of my worries. However, it is possible that the perpetrator, when looking through the bag, may have obtained data or items (home address and imprint of the front door key, etc) that allow him to cause more damage (identity theft/internet fraud in online shopping, burglary, ...).
 
@UlrichDiez we will exchange the keys. But someone after internet fraud would have kept the smartphone and the credit cards imho.
 
maybe they made copies of it and duplicated the SIM card.
 
4:45 PM
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Wait, what?!
 
5:09 PM
@jokerdino I think Ulrike can manage without my worries/considerations. ;-) I shouldn't have brought up these things. I'm sorry.
@UlrikeFischer I think you can manage without my worries/considerations. ;-) I should not have brought up these things. I'm sorry.
 
@UlrichDiez No it's fine. I tried to think about all possibilities too.
@PauloCereda But my husband is triumphant: for the first time ever he‘s in the position to hand the household money to me.
 
@UlrikeFischer ooh
 
5:35 PM
@PauloCereda The rock in the background looks like a mug shot of a witch ;-)
 
@ChiefO'Brien ooh indeed
 
5:56 PM
@UlrikeFischer Sorry to hear this! It happened to my nephew this winter too, but the thief was not so considerate and the bag never appeared... so apart from the loss of the phone, laptop, and money, she had a two-months hell for redoing all the documentation. She also was seated in a restaurant, with lot of friends around, and nobody noticed anything.
 
6:09 PM
quite a nightmare
 
Oh I had a bad experience in Barcelona. Thankfully I had my passport with me...
 
it's also hard to know exactly all the things I had lost.
 
@UlrikeFischer Sorry to hear about your bag! I hope the bär was not in it?
 
6:26 PM
@samcarter_left_tex.se no that would have been horrible, but he was safe in the hotel room.
 
the bär?
 
@UlrikeFischer Puh, what a relieve!
@jokerdino The bär is a very skilled author of latex packages, the latest masterpiece is bearwear
 
@jokerdino search for my name here tug.org/tug2020/program.html
 
too cute; unbärable.
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6:38 PM
WE WUB THIS DINO BLOKE
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Is it too much to ask if some of you can do some kind of classes for our website's 10 year anniversary? Pretty please.
@PauloCereda <3
 
@jokerdino <3
 
@jokerdino Happy Birthday!
 
In a few months time :D
 
By the way...
Where is @DavidCarlisle? I miss him...
 
6:44 PM
@UlrikeFischer -- I'm so sorry you had this experience! A few times I've left my bag behind, at a library and a theater, but in both places they knew me, and kept it safe. Losing your ID is the worst! Yesterday I left my bag home when we went out to dinner; no problem, really, unless I would have had to drive home without a license. I'm very happy that Bär is safe.
 
7:08 PM
@barbarabeeton I have a talk ready, would you like a secret video link? :)
 
@PauloCereda -- Let me try. (It's not certain that I'll be able to actually view it.)
 
7:19 PM
@barbarabeeton you will be able, it's a link to a Google Drive folder, and the video can be played online.
 
7:36 PM
@PauloCereda I saw this and thought of you
 
7:47 PM
@Canageek WOW
@Canageek Thanks for sharing! :)
 
@PauloCereda So have you been drafted to go eat grasshoppers?
 
@Canageek Thankfully I was not recruited, it's probably bad for my diet. :)
 
Interesting note: Locusts are the only insect that is kosher.
(I'm dating a Jewish person, who still kept kosher when we started dating, so they taught me the basics of the rules to help me cook for them)
 
@Canageek wow, really? Interesting!
@Canageek Nice!
 
The longer they've spent away form their mother, the less kosher they eat, which is apparently common enough to be a sterotype.
 
7:55 PM
@Canageek Ah... I only learned about kosher when I graduated. Living in the countryside is like a bubble sometimes...
 
@JosephWright especially using an untrustworthy server put together by some bloke on the internet
 
@DavidCarlisle HI! MISS YOU!
 
@PauloCereda you know, I do have a day job
 
@DavidCarlisle yes, but I still miss you. <3
 
 
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11:02 PM
@JosephWright the links in your learnlatex abstract at tug.org/tug2020/program.html are all broken (taken relative to that page)
 

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