\quad is much space

any other command which could give a bit less space than that

?

cool

quack

@PauloCereda just in time for a late breakfast

@HaraldHanche-Olsen oh no

@HaraldHanche-Olsen by the way, miss you <3

@PauloCereda Life's been too hectic to hang out here much, unfortunately.

@HaraldHanche-Olsen I can relate. :)

@Plergux hi sheep person! (")>/

@PauloCereda Hi duck person! (^-^)/~~~

@Plergux ooh

<3

@BAYMAX depends on what you are doing. I'd say for most cases \quad is best. Please provide context

@PauloCereda I stayed up until four in the morning and then got up again at seven to finish the second draft of my thesis XD #exhaustedsheep :p

@Plergux ooh a sheep thesis

@Plergux What's your area in linguistics?

@PauloCereda Semantics. I just handed in 400 pages on the semantics of colour terms in Icelandic mainly, but also English (American and British), Western Icelandic (heritage language in North America) and Icelandic Sign Language.

@Plergux ooh that sounds awesome!

advanced sheep endeavours :)

@BAYMAX quad is hspace{1em} so \hspace{.5em} is half that

@Plergux In music, there is the "mf" dynamic marking, which stands for "mezzo-forte", meaning "moderately loud". Whenever I see it, I cannot help but think of Michael Flanders' witty remark: "mf means you need to play... 'mit feeling'". :)

@PauloCereda oh I thought it meant "invoke metafont to generate the needed glyphs here"

@DavidCarlisle ooh do people still use metafont?

@PauloCereda that's why it is called classical

@DavidCarlisle ooh

@PauloCereda heh heh heh... Well, Michael Flanders was a genious XD (and I should know what "mf" stands for, since I studied music for ten years :p)

@DavidCarlisle bah YouTube does not have the "flying lessons" sketch from Monty Python. I was going to quote, "we are grand, aren't we? Oh, oh, no more buttered scones for me, mater. I'm off to play the grand piano". :)

@Plergux ooh musical sheep

@PauloCereda LOLOLOL! "And me the oop!" "The what??!" XD

@Plergux LOL indeed

I am laughing here

A GAHP IN ONE'S OOP

@Plergux I LOL'd so much now! :)

@PauloCereda XD That's one of my favourites. Love Terry Jones' "straight man" like in that sketch, and the guy trying to get a donation from the merchant banker, and of course... "Ah, I say... Those are... sheep, aren't they??"

@Plergux LOLOLOL

@PauloCereda "Notice, that they do not so much fly as plummet." BAAAA..... splat! XD

@DavidCarlisle yup, thanks. I followed the link and tried and now it solved the problem! thanks guys!

@Plergux LOLOLOL splaaaat :D

Quick TL isnallation question. I have an installation that after 95min failed right after installing the last latex package (of 4075). Thus it was installing texlive-scripts. Can we save this or do I have to run the installation of 4075 package again?

@daleif I think, there's still no proper way to do it. Personal recommendation: Run install-tl on scheme-minimal and afterwards use tlmgr to install scheme-full. The recovery mechanisms are better (i.e. no need to redownload all packages).

@TeXnician hmm, I think I'll try that. It is really annoying having to start over each time these windows installations crash, which they often do.,

@daleif did you try what works?

@UlrikeFischer Standard installation, downloaded the zip and ran install-tl-windows.bat. I've seen it fail any a time now, where it then completes on the second or third try. It seems to always be some hashsum that fails.

I'll try TeXnicians suggestion

@daleif no I meant. Did you try if the tex system is failing after the installation stopped? I had sometimes installation problems at the end, and then I simply looked if it worked, perhaps called some of the administration tools. Sometimes it was ok.

@UlrikeFischer ahh, no, I don't think it was that far. Actually not 100% sure when the admin tools are installed.

@TeXnician hmm, I have some suggestions for that gui installer. Should probably have installed scheme-full via cli instead (easier to follow progress)

@UlrikeFischer Thanks for your nice explanation of the \reset@color stuff!

quack

@samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz ;-). Probably one can insert a similar code with xelatex too, but I'm not sure about the syntax.

Since I've handed in my second draft I can continue messing with Tikz... :p

Can you believe it? Some people really don't like tikz examples

@DavidCarlisle Some people are not aware of the powerful and flexible picture interfaces :D

@PauloCereda Mail reply

@DavidCarlisle The atbegshi package is required with the new version of LaTeX?

@TeXnician That seemed to work just fine. Thanks. The running log for the TL shell is a bit bad from a UI point of view and it seemed to be sitting doing nothing for a long while, so one might think that it was frozen. But it worked in the end.

@PabloGonzálezL no.

@PabloGonzálezL It is very powerfull. I think we based our LaTeX version of our University letter template for Word. The colofon is attached to the header and placed via picture. It think it was a hint the original author got from @DavidCarlisle in the last century.

@UlrikeFischer I'm thinking of the 'media4svg' package (@AlexG)

@daleif I'm waiting for The picture companion written by @DavidCarlisle

@PabloGonzálezL you only need atbegshi if you needed it before. The new LaTeX doesn't change this, the change is that with a new latex you often don't need atbegshi anymore.

@PabloGonzálezL wouldn't the l3picture just be \let l3picture=l3pgf/tikz

@UlrikeFischer OK, I was just thinking about that, the package is relatively new and uses almost pure expl3 :D

@DavidCarlisle some people don't understand real art ...

@daleif It's on my to-do list, try to draw something decent using l3draw

@daleif There's also tlcockpit which is somewhat better in terms of responsiveness. But nothing is more responsive than tlmgr in a terminal ;)

@PabloGonzálezL For a book I once drew the "Hand of God" (relativity theory, the hand of God was doing the acceleration of the closed box in outer space). It was made by hand (tracing a drawing from google) using a s*** load of bezier curves.

@TeXnician Since I'm not normally a windows user, I'm not quite aware what I was using to install the scheme-full

It just says "TeXLive manager" in the windows menu

@daleif Oh, install-tl and the installer window is something different than the management applications (tlmgr, tlshell, tlcockpit).

@TeXnician I't seems to be the tlshell gui I was using

@PabloGonzálezL <3

@PabloGonzálezL (last line) oh no

@PabloGonzálezL Just draw ducks, everybody loves them :)

oh no

@PabloGonzálezL start with a plane

@DavidCarlisle ooh an aeroplane

@Plergux ^^

@PauloCereda it's OK: only Italian Sausage on the menu, not German

@DavidCarlisle ooh

@barbarabeeton youtube.com/watch?v=2VwbqkB_7Aw

@Plergux -- Sounds interesting! I hope it's well received. What's the historical period and geographic area for Western Icelandic?

ooh the land of ice

@UlrikeFischer ooh chessboard

@Rmano ooh vikings

@PauloCereda ooh ooh

@PhelypeOleinik Lost Vikings? :)

@PauloCereda The videogame?

@PhelypeOleinik Yes...

@PauloCereda My cousin had it on his Nintendo. He didn't let me play, so I only watched :)

@PauloCereda Also I was like 4, so I wouldn't do much with the controller :)

@PhelypeOleinik Hulk smash? :)

@PhelypeOleinik juxt get it for dosbox. The LV is great! The LV2 is good too, but no so much :)

@PauloCereda A bit less green than that ;-)

@PhelypeOleinik :)

@yo' Oh, I have dosbox! (not LV though). I used to play Dangerous Dave on Win 98, so I had to feel the nostalgia. Took me 20 years to finally beat that game :)

@yo' ooh

@yo' This one ^^

@PhelypeOleinik yep, I remember that one.

bestoldgames.net/eng/old-games/lost-vikings.php

@yo' Mom hated the sounds effects it made through the speaker :P

@yo' Thanks!

@PhelypeOleinik ah yeah, the LV has quite nice sounds

Hello everyone.

'ello!

@LaTeXereXeTaL Yo!

@PauloCereda Yoda drink?

@yo' Yes! :)

Strange question: Can we redefine \left...\right such that its output is colored, if possible with different colors corresponding to nesting levels? This might be a good learning tool to show people that their wast number of \left...\right constructions doesn't actually do anything.

@barbarabeeton The historical period is ca. 1870 til present day, but the people who still speak it are probably the last generation. They are predominantly in Manitoba, but also Alberta, Washington, North-Dakota, and Saskatchewan.

@daleif You mean to colour everything inside \left...\right or only the delimiters?

@Plergux -- Thank you -- I didn't know that. It seems that area is (has been?) welcoming to various groups that have held onto their original customs and language. (I'm thinking of the Ukrainian community in Saskatchewan, to which I was introduced by way of an impressive outdoor sculpture of a pysanka.)

@PhelypeOleinik everything inside, currently not caring about the delimiters themself. We can probably also set a limit on the number of nesting levels.

Here's an example of what I'm working with. The red color for the left/right are my specific setup in Emacs

It is fairly clear that a lot of the code here has been written using SWP.

as there is % all over the place, and wide use of ^{\prime}

@barbarabeeton Yeah, I think so. It's the difference between being able to adapt and also be able to keep your unique origins and being forced to assimilate. Unfortunately Icelanders tend to commend Icelanders abroad who keep together and speak their native language, while at the same time condemning immigrants in Iceland who do the same :|

@daleif Try this:

\def\colorlist{red,green,blue,yellow,cyan,magenta}
\ExplSyntaxOn
\cs_new_eq:NN \ClistItem \clist_item:Nn
\ExplSyntaxOff
\let\TeXleft\left
\let\TeXright\right
\makeatletter
\newcount\leftcount
\protected\def\left{%
  \global\advance\leftcount 1\relax
  \begingroup
  \color{\ClistItem\colorlist\leftcount}%
  \TeXleft}%
\protected\def\right#1{%
  \TeXright#1%
  \endgroup
  \global\advance\leftcount -1\relax}

@daleif No guarantee :-) I'm not sure that it will behave well regarding spacing around delimiters (actually I'm pretty sure it will mess spacing up, but they are using \left...\right wrong, so I guess that's a minimal problem :-). Also it only works if the \right delimiter is a single token

Is it too late for halloween? ^^

OMG I love that!!!!!!!

I wish text editors could do something like that to help with pairing delimiters.

@LaTeXereXeTaL Oh, no! ;-)

Twice as scary for @Plergux :)

@PhelypeOleinik very nice, I've closed my pc for tonight so will test tomorrow, how about \middle?

The colors could all go away when all delimiters are correctly paired.

@daleif Doesn't seem to affect colouring (I thought it would, but it's coloured the same as the surrounding math)

@LaTeXereXeTaL Tricky, as at the time the formula ends and you know delimiters are right, the colours are already set

@PhelypeOleinik Just wishful thinking. LOL

@PhelypeOleinik eep!

@Plergux :)