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7:16 AM
@GuM Don't mention the "S" in "CEST", this bunch of nonsense drives me crazy!
 
@yo' Summer time, let's go to the seaside! :):):)
 
@yo' The abbreviation, or the reality?
@CarLaTeX Still some snow in my back yard. −10 °C yesterday morning.
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen In Milan 4 °C now (very low for the period)
 
@CarLaTeX Up to −7 °C this morning. But the sky is clear, and it should get above freezing in the middle of the day. We're having a late spring this year, that's for sure. Which may lead to flooding later, since there is an unusual amount of snow in the mountains and delayed springs tend to happen faster.
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Ooooh
 
yo'
7:40 AM
@HaraldHanche-Olsen The reality of course
 
7:53 AM
@yo' They're both annoying. At my latitude, far north, it only makes a difference for a few weeks around the equinoxes. In summer, it's daylight most of the time anyhow, and in winter, it's dark most of the time. (And the abbreviation is annoying because there is no real standard for abbrevated time zones, and the S for summer is easily confused with the S for standard in the US time zones. We should relent and call it +0200 in summer, +0100 in winter.)
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Come to Italy! No dark, only sun! :)
 
8:34 AM
@CarLaTeX but no good pizzas either
 
@DavidCarlisle :P
 
8:47 AM
But is the "yearling" badge earned every year?
 
@CarLaTeX I seem to remember it is
 
yo'
@CarLaTeX Once you have at least +200 reputation and at least 1 year since you got it last time.
 
@DavidCarlisle I got it yesterday, 2 years on TeX.SE already! The time goes by so quickly!
@yo' Oh, yes, also reputation counts :)
 
@CarLaTeX @PauloCereda had almost finished his thesis before you were here, and you have delayed him so much with ducks and other nonsense he still hasn't finished.
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh no! It's my fault!
@DavidCarlisle That's why @PauloCereda hasn't finished yet!
 
8:56 AM
Nov 16 '13 at 21:28, by David Carlisle
@egreg It's always good to have someone to blame
 
@DavidCarlisle LOL
 
@GuM You scared me to delete the answer. But as @egreg posted a better answer, it didn't matter much. I appreciate you saying that though :)
@DavidCarlisle: are you always here?
 
@AndreasStorvikStrauman The only alternative is having lunch with pineapple pizza, so yes!
 
@CarLaTeX Do you know for certain that he is not a bot?
 
@AndreasStorvikStrauman You could be everything on the internet :)
@samcarter I stole your "moral scruples" sentence here: tex.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7627/… :)
 
9:14 AM
@LoopSpace Thanks for your suggestions. Converting to library sounds like a reasonable idea! Do you happen to know if there are any formal requirements for a tikzlibrary? I had a look at some of the existing ones and they seemed to be normal .tex files with a special name?
@LoopSpace As for your suggestion about \pic: At the moment I don't think my non-existing tikz knowledge is sufficient for such an endeavour. I have know idea how I would convert the duck into a pic. Maybe later when I have learned a bit more tikz - but I'll keep it in mind :)
@CarLaTeX :) Are you afraid someone post an answer "upvoted because the answer contains pineapple pizza"?
 
@samcarter there are some examples of pics in the christmas ducks. E.g. \tikzset{duckparrot/.pic={ and piratehat/.pic={. They are not very sophisticated as I cared only on "does it work" and not "is it good code" and "is it extensible".
 
@samcarter I may say it's included in funny answers LOL
 
9:38 AM
@AndreasStorvikStrauman no. I'm not here now for example.
 
9:55 AM
@DavidCarlisle Me neither.
 
Hi, I am alive!
I am in a hurry in the last few weeks because of an important endeavour. Today I am also in the shaky bus because of... reasons. :)
Also, a gentle quack for you all!
I think @egreg and I have 6+ years of TeX.sx
 
@PauloCereda I wish you good success with your reasons ;-)
 
When I posted a Christmas video using xii, two or three days later @DavidCarlisle joined the group. :)
@UlrikeFischer thanks! :)
 
@PauloCereda I have 7 yearlings badges. No idea how I got them -- I'm much too young for it.
 
@UlrikeFischer ❤️
 
10:03 AM
@UlrikeFischer You must have been here almost since the start, then. The first question was asked in July 2010.
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Q: Automatically define macros in LyX documents

Amir RachumI'm using LyX all the time and over the last 2 years I've accumulated some very handy macros for my lecture notes. As it is today, every time I start a new document, I copy and paste the macros from one of my other documents. Is it possible, somehow, to automatically load macros for all files? (...

 
@UlrikeFischer I remember @egreg because we have a difference of two days in registering.
 
@PauloCereda I just made a bug report github.com/ho-tex/oberdiek/issues/36 - I hope you like the example
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen some blokes here were in the private beta!
 
@UlrikeFischer hmph I hadn't noticed that:(
 
10:05 AM
@DavidCarlisle Sorry ;-)
 
@CarLaTeX good 😁
@UlrikeFischer ooh
 
@UlrikeFischer Ooh it turns out I have seven of them myself! I recall getting a T-shirt in the first year or so. I still have it
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen oh the tee incident :)
 
@PauloCereda I may have been in the beta myself.
@PauloCereda tee party?
 
@PauloCereda Now you have someone to blame: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/43662872#43662872
 
10:07 AM
I was sad because I didn't get one, however Jake gave me his
 
@PauloCereda I got a stackoverflow one for the \\ nonsense:-)
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen My first answer seems to be from august 24 2010, but I didn't realize that tex.sx was so young at the time.
 
yo'
Speaking of yearlings, we'll need one for this Thursday :-)
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen I will annoy everyone in TUG 2018 with my wannabe British accent
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@UlrikeFischer You beat me by half a year. My first answer is from january 14 2011. But I still got a T-shirt! No, wait, they're not sorted by chronology. That was my least upvoted answer. Hang on …
 
yo'
10:09 AM
@PauloCereda Speaking of Rio, tell me, how difficult is it to get from Rio or SP to Cataratas del Iguazú? (by plane, preferably)
 
@UlrikeFischer Ah, the date of my first answer is more amusingly written 10-10-10.
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Nearly two hours too late to make it 10-10-10 10:10. Rats.
 
@yo' let me check, Tom.
@yo' Tom, it seems "straightforward", but I haven't checked the prices. Look for IGU as the airport code. The airport is a mere 10 kilometres from downtown.
1h45
 
yo'
@PauloCereda yeah, the plane tickets look reasonable. Given how far I go anyway, it's marginal and I wanna see the waterfalls (and possibly also the powerplant in Itaipú)
@PauloCereda I'll ask on Travel.SE :)
 
@yo' holy cow, the Itaipu dam!
 
yo'
10:24 AM
@PauloCereda I hope you understand why I wanna see it!
 
That thing is a monster
It's a miracle of engineering
There's a documentary about the Itaipu dam done by the Discovery Channel. It is very impressive!
 
yo'
@PauloCereda yep. And the waterfalls are Nature's masterpiece, the two together (only 50km apart) make this a unique place on the Earth!
 
@yo' very nice combo, Tom!
 
@UlrikeFischer I hate packages with aggressive self consistency checks:-) Package accsupp Warning: Wrong driver luatex', using pdftex' instead. why can't it just do what I say:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Does adding \ACCSUPP@DefineDriverKey{luatex} work?
@DavidCarlisle ah no, probably not because of the \ifpdf.
 
10:32 AM
@UlrikeFischer fixed as
\def\ACCSUPP@temp{pdftex}%
\ifpdf
  \ifx\pdfextension\@undefined\else
    \def\ACCSUPP@temp{luatex}%
  \fi
  \ifx\ACCSUPP@temp\ACCSUPP@driver
  \else
    \PackageWarningNoLine{accsupp}{%
      Wrong driver `\ACCSUPP@driver', using `pdftex' instead%
    }%
@UlrikeFischer let me know if it doesn't work:-) a lot of diff for one csname change:-) github.com/ho-tex/oberdiek/commit/…
 
@DavidCarlisle how can I test it?
 
@UlrikeFischer grab dtx and ins and generate? (Or I could mail you a zip of the .sty and .def if you want) I just tried it on your file so far
 
10:48 AM
@DavidCarlisle I will clone the bundle and try out ... when running the oberdiek.ins I get an error about a missing ifpdf.ins. Is this normal?
 
@UlrikeFischer hmm I didn't get that, let me see...
@UlrikeFischer oh just now I just ran accsupp.ins, let me try the top level ins on a clean checkout....
@UlrikeFischer normal but wrong, fixed now:-)
 
11:12 AM
@DavidCarlisle ;-)
 
 
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12:39 PM
@CarLaTeX -- if never any dark, how do you ever sleep? (spent sime time in oslo one summer, and was awakened at 4 a.m. by the bright sun streaming in the window. too early!)
@AndreasStorvikStrauman -- there is a person who claims to be @DavidCarlisle who has attended several tug meetings. but whether it is the same @DavidCarlisle who posts comments here about pineapple pizza is a matter for conjecture.
@UlrikeFischer -- same here, and the badges are both silver. wonder how many years it takes to get a gold yearling badge?
 
@DavidCarlisle I just found the option davidlikespineapplepizza in the github version of a well known package ;.).
 
1:14 PM
Hi all, I'm working on something with proprietary latex code so I'm really hoping that I can resolve the issue here
So somebody sent me code of a document using pstricks
In fact the document has some 500 pstricks pictures, and they only really seem to compile properly with XeLaTeX
So far so good, but the compilation time is utterly insane
 
@user55789 Did you try auto-pst-pdf?
 
I have tried it, and the pictures simply disappear from sight completely
A possible clue is the following
 
@TeXnician this won't work with xelatex. @user55789 you should externalize the pictures and create a pdf for each one and include it with \includegraphics so that xelatex doesn't have to recompile them at a every compilation.
 
When I embed the pspictures in tikzpictures using the trick presented in e.g. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/356442/…
When I open the separately created pdf's e.g. <jobname>-figure-1.pdf, the pdf won't load and instead tell me
"The dimensions of this page are out of range. Page content might be truncated."
and an empty pdf file
 
@user55789 Ask a question on the main site with a proper, complete example.
 
1:22 PM
@UlrikeFischer Very well, I will do so somewhere later today
Many thanks!
 
@barbarabeeton If the one who attended the meetings is monochrome, that's him all right.
 
 
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2:30 PM
@barbarabeeton did my mail attachment survive your mail system?
 
@DavidCarlisle -- you mean the one you sent yesterday? yes, i've got that one, and applied the changes to my copy (to which i'd already made some other changes) -- thanks! but if you meant a different one, haven't received it yet, and will have to go looking/asking ...
 
@barbarabeeton no that one, after I packed up I was trying to remember if .tex attachments worked for you:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle -- tex (and other text) attachments do work. thank goodness!
 
3:07 PM
@barbarabeeton Only sun during the day, party at night :):):)
 
3:26 PM
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@yo' @PauloCereda regarding waterfalls ^^^
 
3:41 PM
@JosephWright one for Will?
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A: Error in listings file when combined with \lstset and unicode-math package

David CarlisleIt works if you make sure that scriptsize math is set up before listings starts: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{unicode-math} \usepackage{listings} \lstset{basicstyle=\scriptsize} \begin{document} \sbox0{\scriptsize $x$} \lstinputlisting{test.cpp} \end{document}

 
@DavidCarlisle yup :)
 
Hi folks. I have a vague recollection that I once used a package to help me generate a letter to multiple recipients. However, I now cannot remember any details about it.
Does anyone have any ideas how I might track this down? There is probably a letter (or maybe) more in my archives which uses this technique, whatever it is.
 
I might have used datatool, but I use that for other things to, so doing a search for that would probably not prove fruitful.
@DavidCarlisle That doesn't appear to be TeX-related.
 
@FaheemMitha See csvsimple the example at page 7 of its manual.
 
3:49 PM
@CarLaTeX I'll take a look. Thank you.
 
@FaheemMitha You're welcome!
 
@AlanMunn Thanks very much. Clearly I should have searched my own questions on the site!
 
4:02 PM
@FaheemMitha :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Is this an example of your (British) sense of humour?
Note the British spelling...
 
@FaheemMitha It must be as I know nothing else about Word, I have never actually used it
 
@DavidCarlisle I used it once. It was painful.
Well, actually more than once.
 
@FaheemMitha I need to use it from time to time as a reader if people send me files in that format but I've never used it to make a document.
 
@DavidCarlisle That's fortunate.
I've got an eloquent email message I wrote to a friend in 1999 about my trial and travails with Word. It probably marked by true conversion to markup and away from word processors.
 
4:07 PM
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Q: How to make schema diagram in LaTeX?

alhelal In schema diagram one attribute(foreign key) points another attribute of different table. I can point table to table, but not attribute to attribute. You just modify my following MWE that give the following result. One arrow from dept_name of instructor to dept_name of department. MWE(tak...

 
@samcarter I could have a go at converting it to a pic, but I'd like to check that I'm not in danger of stepping on any flippers.
 
@LoopSpace Hi! Thanks for the nice offer! That would indeed be very helpful! I don't want to cause you too much trouble, so some starting point would probably be sufficient -- I should be able to convert all the other options myself (hopefully :), once I've seen some examples.
 
Please give tour in that question. I guess you are able to answer that. Don't fear seeing the title.
 
@LoopSpace did you say convert to pic(ture mode) I offered to that ages ago
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4:40 PM
@AlanMunn It looks like I finally opted for textmerg, based on the one working example I found.
 
@samcarter did you saw that I revealed your new option? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/43665650#43665650
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@DavidCarlisle "Conversion to picture is, of course, trivial and therefore left as an exercise for the reader.".
Just got another upvote on codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/110330/65602
 
@UlrikeFischer Oh! It is the right time of the year to find Easter eggs :)
 
5:11 PM
@samcarter I also used the mullet hair style as helmet in the picture above ;-).
 
@UlrikeFischer Wow! I did not notice the helmet because it was too small in my browser, only saw something red :) They are really adventurous ducks!
@UlrikeFischer Did you see spiegel.de/gesundheit/schwangerschaft/… ? (caution - some of the images might contain graphic violence - not suitable for children)
 
5:26 PM
@UlrikeFischer Ah, then sorry for the spam :)
 
@samcarter it shows that the important questions go around the world ;-)#
 
5:40 PM
@LoopSpace -- surely pdftex isn't required for this -- knuthian tex will do as well. so you should be able to save 6 characters by omitting the "pdf" twice. (to test, substituted "a" for the middle ~, launched it, and was greeted with a * prompt. responded \bye and got an output page with a single "a".)
 
 
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7:00 PM
@CarLaTeX guess we spammed that comments section a bit :) I'm not going to reopen the question. It'd be just another opinion to an opinion based question. And OP did already find KOMA. No reason to point him towards it.
 
@DavidCarlisle -- please take a look at tex.stackexchange.com/q/423684 . looks to me like it might be a bug.
 
7:12 PM
@Skillmon OK :)
 
7:27 PM
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@samcarter Is there a "draw one of everything" option?
 
@Skillmon I added graphicx to that answer... :):):)
 
@CarLaTeX thank you.
 
@Skillmon Thanks to you for pointing it out! :)
 
@LoopSpace Do you mean something like the \randuck? Which draws one hairstyle or hat and one item?
 
7:36 PM
@samcarter would be cool if \randuck was more random (e.g. like this: xkcd.com/221)
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@Skillmon :) For the documentation I use \pgfmathsetseed{10}
 
@samcarter In order to test that everything's working, I'd like it to draw everything that can be drawn. So there are lots of hats, so I'd only want one of that, but then there's water, pizza, eyebrows, and so on. In effect, setting everything to true.
 
@LoopSpace Ah, now I understand. I don't have a single duck with everything - to test that everything is working I usually compile the documentation which includes every option (with only one exception of the Easter egg @UlrikeFischer discovered today)
@LoopSpace Shall I create a document with a duck for every option? (without all the clutter from the documentation?)
 
7:52 PM
@samcarter Might not be a bad idea for "unit testing". No rush, though. I might put in a key that sets all conditionals to true.
@samcarter Current error: complaining about /duck/duck/water. Just shows that you can lead a duck to water, but you can't make it duck. (To be clear, this is an error in code that I've introduced, not your original code.)
 
@LoopSpace There is a lot of wisdom in error messages :)
 
Good evening or afternoon to everybody.
@Bernard, @egreg Can I ask an help please?
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Q: Solve a PDE to find a bundle of parallel planes

SebastianoStarting from the question, how do I find a bundle of parallel planes (equipotential surfaces) of the type $$\mathcal{F}: ax + by + cz + k = 0 $$ with $ k\in \mathbb{R}$, orthogonal to the uniform electric field starting from the equation $\overline E=-\overline \nabla V$? The problem can be con...

@egreg Actually I haven't received any answer.
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Q: Orthogonality relationship of electric field and electrical potential of two parallel plates

SebastianoWe known that the potential generated by a charge pointwise $q$ is $V(r) = kq/r $ and the equipotential surfaces (in 3D) are spheres centered in the charge with $r\geq 0$ where $r=d(O,P)$, i.e. the distance between the origin and a generic point $P$. In fact if we are in space, where an orthono...

@egreg, No prof. could you help me to solve the question I asked on the Mathematics or Physics website?
@JosephWright Good evening
 
8:08 PM
@barbarabeeton feature not bug
 
8:18 PM
@samcarter ^^^ The Ultimate Duck
@samcarter Any reason why you don't like spaces? PGF keys can have spaces in their names.
 
@LoopSpace it looks as well organised as @PauloCereda's thesis
 
@LoopSpace we germans don't need spaces ;-)
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@LoopSpace Kandinskij's duck?
 
@UlrikeFischer totally true. (sadly when I'm programming I think English as much as possible, so no Komposita there :( )
 
vlg
Would there be a simple way of knowing whether the text in a p column of a spec. length has exceeded that length, that is, it becomes >1 rows of text?
 
8:26 PM
@vlg before or after you close the box?
 
@DavidCarlisle before could be hard...
 
vlg
After, before would be harder, right?
 
@Skillmon not really, \par\ifnum\prevgraf > 1 yes\fi
@vlg both are easy but the answer is different:-) the other one is (assuming you know the font size) \ifdim\dimexpr\ht\somebox+\dp\somebox>\basllineskip
 
vlg
You people have no boundaries to problem-solving, I love it
 
@DavidCarlisle and I'm again speechless. The second was easy as I'm used to testing the dimensions of boxes, but I didn't know about \prevgraf. What does it exactly do in which circumstances?
Oh, it's in the TeXbook.
 
8:30 PM
@Skillmon it exactly answers @vlg's question in all circumstances:-) (it's the number of lines in a just completed paragraph)
 
@DavidCarlisle yep. I should finally read through the whole book, not only the first 70 pages :)
 
@Skillmon just read the dangerous bend bits and appendix D, skip the rest
 
@DavidCarlisle I wonder how long DEK needed to name the appendix in a way that each chapter starts with the alphabetic appendix count...
 
@Sebastiano Do you think I'm an expert in PDEs? Sorry, I'm not.
 
@samcarter Turned out to be easier than I expected it to be ... assuming it passes testing, that is.
 
8:36 PM
@LoopSpace You should sell The Ultimate Duck as modern art!
 
@Skillmon The appendices were easy. See the article I mentioned here: tex.stackexchange.com/a/423617/134574
 
@LoopSpace No special reason for the lack of spaces, just feels strange to use them. Maybe this it me being German and we just love long words without spaces :)
@LoopSpace Ohhhh, looks very good! Thank you very much for all your help with the tikzducks!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll test and report back - though probably only tomorrow or so, as I'll be off for today.
 
@samcarter Turns out you can have aliases in pgfkeys so I've added aliases with spaces.
@samcarter I just want the glory of having contributed to this awesome package ...
 
yo'
8:54 PM
Evening, everybody! Would any of the TUG18/Rio visitors consider going for this with me?
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Q: Itaipú and Iguazú in one/two days from Rio

yo'I'll be travelling from Europe to Brazil (Rio). I would like to use this opportunity and see the Water Plant of Itaipu and the Waterfalls of Iguazú as a part of this visit. Now, if it were in Europe or the US, I would fly to the nearest airport (in this case it's IGU) early in the morning, rent ...

 
@yo' You booked your flights?
 
yo'
@JosephWright not yet. I just know that any travelling will be after TUG (I'm tight before it)
 
@yo' Ah
@yo' I've also still to book ...
 
yo'
@JosephWright FWIV and from what people told me, this place must be seen once you travel to Latin Am.
 
vlg
@DavidCarlisle Would it be possible to use to\par\ifnum\prevgraf > 1.. without the \par, i.e., adding another row?
 
9:03 PM
@vlg no it's all on one horizontal list until you have a paragrah end. It's not like a word processor that adds one line at a time. Adding one word at the end can change all the linebreaks in the paragraph
 
@egreg I thought so. Excuse me always with all my heart if I always disturb you. I do not take advantage of your kindness.
 
vlg
I didn't understand how to use the other condition- \ifdim\dimexpr\ht\somebox+\dp\somebox>\basllineskip. You said about know the fonsize..
 
@vlg well outside the box that tells you the size of the box, but if the box was \parbox{2cm}{\fontsize{2cm}{2cm}\selectfont ABC} then its size will be several baselineskip but it's only one line (but if you know a 2cm high font was used, you can still work out how many lines it is
 
vlg
Got it, thanks
 
 
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10:26 PM
Is this the reason for the \zz thing @DavidCarlisle?
 

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