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8:15 AM
@cfr I meant more in terms of the standard practice we've adopted, e.g. siunitx and fontspec both have keys with no spaces. I should probably make some notes on this.
 
8:47 AM
Quack!
@StrongBad ooh bacon
 
9:08 AM
Updates off to CTAN: l3build, beamer, ...
@PauloCereda I look forward to build-in CTAN upload in l3build ;)
@moewe Have you considered putting yourself down for tex.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7543/…?
 
@JosephWright Oh
 
@JosephWright the web form worked for you?
 
@DavidCarlisle I replicated the web form on a local server to test stuff, just so I wouldn't annoy the blokes...
 
@PauloCereda any idea why it says ckeditor.js:81 GET https://ctan.org/js/ckeditor.js?t=F969 net::ERR_ABORTED and throws away my uploaded zip file?
 
@DavidCarlisle hmm hold on
 
9:18 AM
@DavidCarlisle Yup, no issues
 
@DavidCarlisle looks like they use this JS-based rich text editor for the description thingy.
 
@PauloCereda that URL is 404 not found so it's not surprising it doesn't work, but why is it trying to load it:-) Gerd said he couldn't see any errors in their logs related to my upload, but that's what the chrome console said, and the upload was rejected on multiple occurrences
@JosephWright yes but I got mine there via ctan-o-mat
 
@DavidCarlisle Perhaps some misleading "JS disabled" error message?
 
@PauloCereda possibly or i'm wondering if a virus checker intercepted it or something
 
9:20 AM
@DavidCarlisle I thought Windows was a virus... :)
 
9:53 AM
hmmm M&M's
 
10:05 AM
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@PauloCereda but yours is black not grey, so clearly a fake
 
@DavidCarlisle oh
 
@egreg, @david, Good morning dear friends. Can I ask an help? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/411948/…. Can you give a comprehensive answer to the user in my answer?
 
10:27 AM
@Sebastiano I added a comment
 
10:41 AM
@JosephWright I joined Dante on a combined Dante+TUG membership scheme recently, so I'm already a TUG member.
... apparently. I haven't gotten any official word from TUG yet.
 
@moewe Ah, right
@moewe If DANTE work like us, the data may not have gone to TUG yet
@moewe I think for new members they do tell you (for login details): for me (renewal), I only know it's gone through as I get TUGboat :)
 
@JosephWright Good to know, not sure how DANTE handle these things.
 
UK-TUG IS TEH BESTEST
 
@PauloCereda You wrote TEH like @DavidCarlisle, argh!
 
11:01 AM
@CarLaTeX che maleducato!
 
@DavidCarlisle Maleducato means ill-mannered, is it what you intended? :)
 
@CarLaTeX close enough ("rude" was what I was aiming for:-)
 
@CarLaTeX I can fix it ...
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, it means also rude, but I wouldn't use such a term for a simple typo :):):)
 
The wikibook has gotten some changes by several contributors. Is anybody aware if there was some action leading to this? There are so many edits, i cannot review them all, especially since one page is edited again and again and again.
 
11:04 AM
@JosephWright Ooooh, you got the power!
 
@CarLaTeX it's teh implication that I would make taht typo that is rude!
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@DavidCarlisle Ah, it's clear now! :):):)
 
11:25 AM
@DavidCarlisle They are obviously bullying me because I want to be a real Englishduck.
 
@PauloCereda I meant @CarLaTeX was rude to me
 
@DavidCarlisle oh
 
@DavidCarlisle No, I intended that @PauloCereda is becoming like you, since he continuously attends this chat!
 
11:56 AM
@DavidCarlisle Thanks a lot lot.
 
However, putting a tikzpicture inside an itemize, which is inside a tcolorbox, which is in a beamer frame seems quite challenging. tex.stackexchange.com/a/412394/101651
 
12:13 PM
@CarLaTeX use powerpoint instead?
 
@DavidCarlisle No, please, do not nominate it! I have to fight with it every day at work!
 
@CarLaTeX I only ever used it once:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Trying to put all things well aligned is almost impossible, and a click is sufficient to create a mess!
 
@CarLaTeX I used it as it was a mandated format for the workshop I was attending, but since the workshop was an EU session on "Open Document Formats" I spent most of my talk complaining that I had been forced to use PowerPoint:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle LOL, do they notice the contradiction?
 
12:26 PM
@CarLaTeX well given that almost every speaker did the same, except for one speaker who got a round of applause for saying she refused to use powerpoint and used html slides, I guess they did, yes:-)
 
12:38 PM
@DavidCarlisle LOL
 
 
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3:15 PM
@CarLaTeX The reason why you could not post the tikz picture in the itemize environment seems to be related to this post.
 
@marmot I read your answer, +1!
 
@CarLaTeX @DavidCarlisle So I think there is no need to switch to powerpoint. (A friend of mine used to say that "The first day when Microsoft is making something that does not suck is when it starts producing vacuum cleaners." ;-)
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@marmot A Microsoft's vacuum cleaner only works for a few minutes; then it becomes blue and you have to pull the cord in order to reset it.
 
@egreg but it does not suck... ;-)
 
@marmot LOL
 
3:26 PM
@egreg One of the best comments on Microsoft was given two days ago by the physics Nobel Laureate Barry C. Barish, who complained that Bill Gates does still not understand that spacetime is one word, and hence puts wiggles under it. (Ironically, on this site the wiggles are under "Barish", not under spacetime ;-)
 
@marmot LOL
 
 
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4:52 PM
@marmot @egreg it blows. (Note: “blows” can mean the same as “sucks”.)
The reason it is so windy in Oklahoma: Kansas sucks and Texas blows.
 
5:24 PM
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
6:09 PM
@yo' Bad news, it seems. :-(
 
 
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7:40 PM
@barbarabeeton Still in rehab? Any progress with stair climbing, or do you spend all your time in the pool now?
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen -- still in rehab, but i will go home tomorrow. no pool here, but i do get practice in stair climbing. after i go home, i will go to the local jcc to exercise in their gym and pool. (that's the only pool that keeps the temperature warm enough that i don't stop breathing when i clamber in. both the ymca and the brown pool keep the water about 4-5 degrees cooler. too cold for wimps like me.)
@HaraldHanche-Olsen -- oh, and i've got my "get out of jail free" card and can go back to office on monday, where i'll be able to use a real keyboard! laptop and touchpad are not my most favorite weapons.
 
@barbarabeeton Well, this all sounds excellent. Office, sweet office. And home is not to be sniffed at, either.
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen -- quite true. even though i've got a nice view out my window here; better, actually, than the view out the windows at home. but i'll have to watch out for icy sidewalks again -- possibly more snow/ice predicted on tuesday. winter isn't over yet. and the groundhog doesn't check for his shadow until next friday.
 
@barbarabeeton I have a nice set of spikes I can add to my boots. They're imbedded in a piece of rubber that fits over the sole. Can't you get such things in your neck of the woods?
 
7:58 PM
@HaraldHanche-Olsen -- yes, they (or something like that) are available. i actually do have two different sets of "yaktrax", one with metal coils, and the other with carbide cubes. i'll have trouble putting them on, though -- either one wreaks havoc on nice hardwood floors, and i'm still forbidden to bend over 90 degrees or more, so would have to go barefoot and carry shoes until i get outside. a slight predicament.
mr. @marmot -- your question about casting shadows would really be more timely on february 2. at least in the u.s.
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@barbarabeeton I know. And I really wanted to make sure that my friends cast a shadow. Otherwise we might have a long period of cloudy weather just because of a LaTeX error.
 
@marmot -- good thinking! i'll hope for that too.
 
8:15 PM
@barbarabeeton I guess @HaraldHanche-Olsen saved us ;-)
 
@barbarabeeton I suppose you could do as @marmot and hibernate. Hard choices.
 
9:12 PM
Decided to shell out for GitKraken ... it's quite good
 
 
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cfr
11:34 PM
@JosephWright Unfortunately, I didn't read those before writing my packages & classes using expl3 keys. And I don't use either. (Occasionally fontspec to answer a question, but that's it.) I did read the l3keys and expl3 keys documentation, but neither mentioned this. I also read the guidelines for naming expl3 macros etc., but that didn't really cover the user interface.
@barbarabeeton I prefer my laptop keyboard. For one thing, it is US, so things are in the 'right' places. I find the pipe especially awkward on UK keyboards. The only trouble is writing about money, so good thing I'm not an economist.
@barbarabeeton I'm glad you're recovering from whatever you were suffering from ;).
 
@cfr -- on my office keyboard, there are two keys that can be used to delete -- one to the left, and one to the right. it also has a reliable mouse, rather than a touchpad. one of the problems is partly my own fault -- the laptop does not have a current operating system installed, but since the last time i registered a device with the company one of the results was loss of a valid gmail account, and with it loss of access to the app store, i can't upgrade by myself, so i'm gunshy.
@cfr -- two days before christmas, i had an argument with an icy sidewalk, and the ice won. i got a new left hip for christmas. thanks for your good wishes.
 
11:50 PM
@barbarabeeton How's the rehab going?
 
@egreg -- walking securely with a cane, and, on level inside surfaces, even without. can navigate stairs with a good handrail. will go home tomorrow and back to office on monday. i'll be very careful if it gets snowy or icy outside. a couple more months of that ...
 
@barbarabeeton Take care!
 
@egreg -- don't suppose you have any pull with the weather gods?
 
@barbarabeeton Sorry. ;-)
@barbarabeeton No snow here, nor icy sidewalks.
@barbarabeeton A few years ago I had a battle with an icy sidewalk too: it won, of course. But it only resulted in an aching wrist for a couple of weeks.
 
yo'
@egreg Indeed :-( And as an anecdote, just today a journalist was physically attacked in Zeman's meeting
 
11:58 PM
@egreg -- but i don't speak italian ... and i've never been to italy. (the last time i had a chance, the weather was too warm, so we went north and ended up in helsinki (which i love!).
 

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