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1:26 AM
@DavidCarlisle In this final question about the Chinese stroke order 'application' you can see what purpose I would like to give the final code. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/392227/…
 
6:34 AM
@VincentMiaEdieVerheyen are you sure you can use those images from a tex file? (creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/tw/deed.en)
 
Anonymous
6:53 AM
@DavidCarlisle Why not @DavidCarlisle I have previously written a mail to the governmental agency responsible for creating the content from the website I got them from (namely stroke-order.learningweb.moe.edu.tw/home.do?rd=92) to create youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5vVsQPw0Ic5yW4zfMU4Hk3ibYe5q9c6f and vincentverheyen.com/node/47 ... and they gave me written permission to do so, without any hassle whatsoever.
 
8:01 AM
@VincentMiaEdieVerheyen that's fine, but it was worth asking (the actual licence used on the site wouldn't allow it but of course the site owners can always give permission) I see some lua code has been posted already so hopefully you have everything working now!
 
8:41 AM
@samcarter: you are fantastic!
The relative speed of a computer, regardless of CPU architecture, is
inversely proportional to the number of Microsoft products installed.

   -- From a Slashdot.org post

[paulo@cambridge ~]
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@DavidCarlisle ^^ my shell today. :)
 
8:57 AM
@PauloCereda <3
 
@samcarter <3
 
9:14 AM
@PauloCereda Glad to know the speed of my machine tends to infinity.
 
9:26 AM
@egreg :)
@samcarter: can a duck wear a duck tee? :)
It is so unusual to hear David Tennant as Scrooge McDuck in the new DuckTales. It's like the tenth doctor being a duck. :)
Well, granted, he is Scottish. :)
If Scrooge McDuck says Allons-y in the next episodes, I will freak out.
 
9:43 AM
@PauloCereda Yes it can \duck[tshirt=red,stripes={\stripes[emblem={\includegraphics[width=0.3cm]{whatev‌​er-duck-tee-image-you-like}}]}]
 
@samcarter ooooooh
@samcarter: can we have a Scrooge McDuck? With top hat and whatnot? :)
 
@PauloCereda could you answer this question and explain that vim is frustrating by design
 
@DavidCarlisle You could talk about Stockholm syndrome, it would be pretty close. :)
 
@PauloCereda even after being stuck in vim for several hours I find it hard to imagine anyone would start to like it.
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
9:55 AM
@PauloCereda speaking of editors....
Jan 12 '16 at 12:15, by David Carlisle
@PauloCereda finished your thesis?
 
@DavidCarlisle Replace vim with emacs and you get the vim-user view ;)
 
@DavidCarlisle oh no
 
@TeXnician who cares what they think?
 
@DavidCarlisle you are mean
 
Jun 29 at 16:15, by Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle you are not mean :)
 
 
1 hour later…
11:10 AM
@DavidCarlisle Wow. I am gone for five days, and it's like I haven't been away at all …
 
11:39 AM
@HaraldHanche-Olsen TeX excluded, there are only 4 topics here: Paulo's thesis, ducks, Vim vs. Emacs, and pizzas! :):):)
Perhaps I forgot football vs. cricket :)
 
@CarLaTeX And those manual e-mail-notifiers...
 
@TeXnician :)
 
@CarLaTeX which thesis quack
 
@PauloCereda <3 :) ... and shaky bus vs. first class trains :)
 
@CarLaTeX I haz no wine
 
11:55 AM
@CarLaTeX don't forget luatex features ^^
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh
@CarLaTeX: I remember the day I told @DavidCarlisle about a great PDF viewer named apvlv:
Oct 14 '13 at 22:11, by David Carlisle
@PauloCereda I was happier 2 minutes ago when I didn't know about it
 
@DavidCarlisle that is a too much serious topic :)
@PauloCereda :):):)
 
12:20 PM
@diabonas Hallo!
Ich bin ein Ente!
(")>/
 
12:30 PM
@PauloCereda I still think Adobe Reader is the best PDF viewer. =D
 
@Jasper :)
 
@CarLaTeX today coffee tomorrow pizza:
 
@PauloCereda I did install about 10 different viewers on Windows, and Adobe gave me the sharpest fonts. I think we all like nice looking fonts.
 
@Jasper I'd rather use anything else. :)
 
@Jasper Who uses Windows???
 
12:33 PM
@TeXnician Me, Windows 10, lol.
 
ooh another duck arrived
 
@Jasper And @DavidCarlisle, but only to get a X server running ;)
 
@TeXnician David uses Windows because of minesweeper. :)
 
@TeXnician The main reason for me to use Windows is to use Office.
 
@PauloCereda Ah, okay. Did you tell him that there are great console minesweeper-like games for BSD too?
@Jasper We have LaTeX, there's no room (left on disk) for Office!
 
12:36 PM
@TeXnician oh I forgot! :)
 
@TeXnician LaTeX is too hard for me, lol.
 
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@PauloCereda ^^
 
@DavidCarlisle your kerning skills are amazing
 
@DavidCarlisle It seems that all images are star magnets.
 
@Jasper that one hasn't even got a duck in it
 
12:37 PM
@Jasper Probably because the rest in this chat is too serious and not worth starring...
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm not a typical woman from Milan: I don't have a Louis Vuitton handbag and I don't like (any kind of) coffee! :):):)
 
@PauloCereda Hi Paulo :) So I see^^ Unfortunately my Portuguese is not as good as your German - in Spanish, duck would be "pato" IIRC, any luck with that in Brazil? :)
 
@diabonas In Portuguese too! The correct word is indeed pato. :)
 
@PauloCereda Yes, so Spanish 101 has proven useful after all ;)
 
12:45 PM
@diabonas :)
@DavidCarlisle: let us try something:
 
12:57 PM
ooh it's working :)
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@DavidCarlisle I won't buy more vowels. :)
 
Jan 12 '16 at 12:15, by David Carlisle
@PauloCereda finished your thesis?
@PauloCereda do I win?
 
@DavidCarlisle oh no
 
1:16 PM
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@samcarter oooooooooh
@samcarter Thank you! <3
 
@PauloCereda You're welcome!
 
1:31 PM
@samcarter Soon your package documentation will be bigger than the TikZ manual. :)
 
@PauloCereda and have more ducks in it
 
@PauloCereda Something I am afraid of! I guess I will soon have to add some kind of overview or index ... not yet sure what is the best way to do this. Maybe a whole page with images of all the items and the images link to the respective page in the documentation?
Duck-unrelated topic: since yesterday I have no longer a reply button in the chat transcript (where one is directed when following chat notifications from the main site) Does anybody also has this problem or did I break something in my browser?
(no reply link any more :( )
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh
 
yo'
@samcarter that's the new chat probably :-/
 
@DavidCarlisle That's not difficult :)
 
1:41 PM
@samcarter if you open the permalink, you can reply the message from the list?
 
@yo' Did not know we got a new chat - but I don't like it :(
@PauloCereda No, unfortunately not.
 
yo'
@samcarter no idea, I'm still on the old one on the PC. I got the new one on the phone I think
anyway, gotta go, I teach in 15 minutes and have to get all the IT equipment on in the lecture hall.
 
@yo' I'm using the desktop version. Maybe I'll ask a question on meta.SE...
@yo' Have fun!
 
2:02 PM
@samcarter -- i think that if you're at the permalink site, the reply arrow never worked. but you can enter the person's id with the @ form in the "regular" chat window, paste in the permalink info, and respond that way. not as convenient, of course.
 
2:17 PM
@40113370 Thanks for the tip with pasting the permalink (in case you get this message, it worked). For me the reply from the permalink site worked as long as I remember - this used to be my normal workflow when I got a ping on the main site.
 
@40113741 This is a message sent to my future self. Oh it does not work anymore.
 
mmmm, manually pasting the permalink does not seem to work...
 
@samcarter -- this is what i meant about pasting the permalink: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/40113783#40113783 -- you need to manually enter the person's "real" id.
 
@barbarabeeton Ah, ok. Thanks!
 
2:59 PM
@samcarter I see a reply link in the transcript
@samcarter ^^
 
@DavidCarlisle Thanks! That's exactly what vanished. I tried with all addons disabled in firefox save mode, but still no link :(
@DavidCarlisle Interestingly it works with a different browser. Very strange!
 
Does someone knows if synctex should work on the latex-dvips-ps2pdf route? (It looks as if it does, but I'm not sure if it is not my editor that is so clever).
 
@samcarter Maybe you should use the duck pond as show case and let the manual be a manual...
 
@samcarter I'm using firefox 57 in windows
 
@TeXnician At the moment I am more worried that the section with accessories becomes confusing.
 
3:11 PM
@samcarter the average user of the package won't want to read any words, they'll just look at the pictures anyway.
 
@samcarter Maybe you should add a curtain, then nobody will see ;)
 
@DavidCarlisle FF55 on osx (no update in the last few days)
@DavidCarlisle I thought the average user would not open the documentation at all :)
 
@samcarter I use nightly so I get at least one update a day:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Is FF57 already the one which breaks old addons?
 
@samcarter to be honest for your package it's more likely that someone will look at the pictures in the manual than actually want to use the package in a document:-)
@samcarter oh nightly's always breaking stuff or not breaking stuff, that's half the fun.
 
3:15 PM
@DavidCarlisle Ah, so I am not dealing with the average package user, but with the average documentation user - two disjunct groups of people :)
 
I can do LaTeX - formating, pagination, Template, Latex to xml.
xmltex
 
@Mu30 ?
 
Mu30 means Murugan and birth day is 30
mail id murugans2k@gmail.com
can you given any job related Latex
 
@samcarter: perhaps and sort of ad blocking?
 
@Mu30 no I meant was that a question or a statement or what? If you are asking for latex jobs this is probably the wrong place although you could ask
@Mu30 do you really use xmltex?
 
3:28 PM
sorry for asking job, and i use xmltex.
some of the client we do xmltex.
sorry Paulo Cereda
 
@DavidCarlisle brilliant piece of code
 
@Mu30 wow, I wouldn't use it now, and I wrote it:-) Still if it works, it works:-)
 
@PauloCereda Also happens with all add-ons disabled, including my add blocker (maybe I should not have created a ghost duck yesterday -- it is now probably hunting me)
 
@samcarter LOL
 
@PauloCereda naturally but that's not quite the same thing as being useful:-)
 
3:31 PM
@DavidCarlisle :D
 
yes its works.
 
@Mu30 I process xml all day every day when I'm not chatting here and xslt is rather more powerful and a lot easier to use than xmltex:-)
 
i do know xslt. how i learn
i do not know xslt. how i learn
 
@Mu30 there are loads of tutorials on the web google.co.uk/search?q=xslt+tutorial
 
thank you sir
 
4:07 PM
@PauloCereda @DavidCarlisle Good news, I got the reply link back - had to delete some sqlite files from my FF profile, but now everything is working again - thanks for keeping me company during debugging :)
 
@samcarter Yay!
@samcarter: no ghost duck curse then. :)
 
@samcarter @PauloCereda In a german site someone asked how to make a job application letter less boring. I wonder if I should answer "add some ducks".
 
@UlrikeFischer ooh the OP could use the sign post duck with "HIRE ME" written on it!
 
@PauloCereda In Europe dinner time is approaching, so all ducks (including the ghost duck) are hiding so @DavidCarlisle won't eat them.
 
@samcarter ooh pesky Englishmen
 
4:18 PM
@UlrikeFischer please ask the OP to provide feedback if they got the job due to the ducks :)
 
4:34 PM
@PauloCereda Don't know why, but i love this song.
:-)
 
@Johannes_B :)
 
@samcarter Reference link :-)
@PauloCereda Any suggestion what to cook next?
 
@Johannes_B Wiener schnitzel. :)
 
@PauloCereda Too expensive. Maybe Feijão?
 
@Johannes_B ooh that's good too
 
4:48 PM
@PauloCereda Question is: Where do i get the black beans?
 
@Johannes_B I can get in a nearby store. :) In your case, it's more difficult. :)
 
@PauloCereda On a different matter, do you know Bud Spencer?
 
@Johannes_B I think he was a humorist.
 
@PauloCereda In germany, everyone knows those movies. Ask @ChristianHupfer, @samcarter @TeXnician or @UlrikeFischer
 
@Johannes_B ooh
 
4:57 PM
@PauloCereda You have a lot of movies to watch my friend :-) Bud Spencer (often together with Terence Hill) did some great movies. Many Western movies. Here is one scene: youtube.com/watch?v=XwhZwnQNPCM
 
@Johannes_B ooh Terence Hill
 
@PauloCereda Ask @egreg Or @CarLaTeX or @Sebastiano as they are Italians :-)
 
5:17 PM
@Johannes_B @PauloCereda "Trinità", "Continuavano a chiamarlo Trinità",... cult movies!
 
@CarLaTeX Yes!
 
@CarLaTeX Yes :-)
 
@CarLaTeX Definitely!
 
6:09 PM
 
@PauloCereda Hahaha
 
@CarLaTeX And thus the war ends here.
Ducks are very smart. :)
 
I've written a small and incomplete cowsay implementation for latex called ducksay. What do you think?
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@Skillmon ooh I love it!
 
it lacks \duckthink atm. and doesn't support linewrapping, though.
 
6:28 PM
@PauloCereda I'm sure @DavidCarlisle will find something to say, anyway!
@Skillmon Great!!!
 
@PauloCereda, @CarLaTeX Thank you very much!
I'm not sure whether I should publish it, though, as I don't know how good the code is.
 
@CarLaTeX quack?
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@DavidCarlisle About pizza topping :)
 
7:11 PM
what do unused global options mean?
there's no solution to my problem somehow
 
7:36 PM
How do you automatically make an abstract on the next page in the way an abstract is actually supposed to be written, and not haphazardly inserted into the content on the first page?
 
7:50 PM
@DaneJoe It's best if you mention the question has been asked on site, to save people answering stuff that's been answered there.
@DaneJoe the second one isn't really answerable. If it is your own document use a class with \chapter if you want chapters, eg amsbook, if you are using amsart because it is specified for a publication, then just do whatever the publication wants, the whole point of journal styles is that the author doesn't get to choose the layout.
@DaneJoe abstracts for journal articles are usually written as a paragraph below the title and above the first section of the main text, why do you call that "haphazard" ?
 
8:08 PM
@DaneJoe see for example the current AMS bulletin for the intended typesetting of abstracts with the ams classes ams.org/journals/bull/2017-54-04/S0273-0979-2017-01583-2/…
 
8:19 PM
@PauloCereda see this important news from the bbc?
 
@Johannes_B @PauloCereda: ... well, we know them, and we like them when we were boys of ten, but the fascination declined soon afterwards ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer age 10? that's a bit old for the effective age for interests discussed in this chat.
@PauloCereda recursive pizza, when will it end?
 
8:36 PM
@DavidCarlisle Are you insinuating that the chat is infantile? ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer what is the average age of a duck before it gets turned into a tasty meal?
 
@DavidCarlisle If the duck is near your garden etc, I suspect a few weeks only ;-)
 
2 hours ago, by CarLaTeX
@PauloCereda I'm sure @DavidCarlisle will find something to say, anyway!
@DavidCarlisle @PauloCereda ^^^
@ChristianHupfer Don't tell this to an Italian!
 

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