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8:06 AM
@ChristianHupfer I thank you very much for your time
@UlrikeFischer Hiiiiiii.
@UlrikeFischer Excuse me for my question. I only liked the characters to use and just. I did not ask that someone would create me a book with all details.
@DavidCarlisle David I have changed my question. I hope now is clear.
@PauloCereda Dear Paul, you're absolutely right. At first I did not know what to write and I have changed so many times my request. If you can edit my request to have it clearer there are immensely grateful.
@daleif Good Morning
@Johannes_B Dear no wonder at all that I had created a complete code in LaTeX. I am aware of the enormous work that it takes to create the text, but simply the basic elements to be able to write a report.
@egreg, @Mico, @ChristianHupfer, @UlrikeFischer @samcarter, I ask you kindly and courteously if you can reopen my question. If I can not thank you all the same. I liked too the fonts and the basic construction of the book. that's all.
 
8:37 AM
@Sebastiano: Try \usepackage{mathptmx}. And if this doesn't give the look you want: write a small latex document with one word or one small sentence and ask how to get a similar font as in an image of a similar word or sentence (e.g. cut out from you main image).
 
8:58 AM
@Sebastiano Personally I wouldn't vote to re-open in that form, although I see a couple of people have. You are still basically showing a picture and asking how to do it, far better would be to focus on some aspect, say the marginal note or the graphic or even the main body font and make a small tex document that gets as far as you can get and then ask a question about the tex coding needed if it doesn't do what you want.
 
@DavidCarlisle Ok David! I have undestand.
 
9:18 AM
@DavidCarlisle Hm interesting. But if I got it right it relies on the fact that the whole url can be printed with the current encoding. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLAM\_(метод€ä) works fine, but \url{https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLAM\_(метод€ä)} not (I added \mathcode"E2="8000 to the definition for the euro). And changing the "outside" encoding to T1 fails completly.
 
9:29 AM
@UlrikeFischer yes to be more exact it keeps the assumption in url.sty that everything (except a few special cases) can be printed in \fam0 with \textfont0 set to the current text font. It would be possible to set up different \fam for different encodings but at that point the complication of doing that might mean that url ackage cunning trick of using math mode really isn't helping any more. If you assume etex then you don't need math and mathcode "8000 to ..
@UlrikeFischer get the hidden active definitions for breaking on / and . you could use \detokenize to get rid of existing definitions and \scantokens to make / locally active even inside macro arguments
OK and today's quiz is........
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm always assuming etex ;-).
 
... without running this document, what is the expected output from (a) pdflatex (b) lualatex and (c) xelatex from this document
\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}

\textcommabelow{x}

\end{document}
 
Anonymous
9:46 AM
Anybody here?
 
Anonymous
I am wondering how to write "No. 111" in an address correctly in English.
 
Anonymous
Can it or can it not be "No.111", i.e. without the spaces in front of the actual number?
 
@DavidCarlisle Buh. Interesting error ;-)
 
10:06 AM
@Sebastiano Do not worry, we need to start somewhere. :) One way of making a question more accessible is to divide the problem into smaller, hermectic subproblems, sorted by complexity. :)
 
@UlrikeFischer so you passed the quiz test and accurately predicted the result?
@VincentVerheyen No.~111
 
@DavidCarlisle No I cheated ;-).
2
 
@PauloCereda Thanks Paulo. In this period I am very busy with my students, i have not internet in my house ecc..... Namely I am in tilt!!!!!!! Now there is into my school the pause. If you can edit my question :((( thanks
 
@Sebastiano Take it easy, everybody needs a break once in a while! :)
 
@PauloCereda I not taking a break when I am at my schools. :-(
 
10:15 AM
@Sebastiano Deeply sorry, I have my personal policy of not editing others' questions, as it's always challenging to understand the OP's initial goals. But do not despair, things will be eventually sorted out. :)
 
10:39 AM
@UlrikeFischer been there since 1993...
\def\DeclareTextCompositeCommand#1#2#3#4{%
  \expandafter\let\expandafter\reserved@a\csname#2\string#1\endcsname
% ^^^^^^^^
% If there isn't an encoding-specific definition of the accent then this  csname makes something that is \relax
% so.....
  \expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\ifx
  \expandafter\@car\reserved@a\relax\relax\@nil \@text@composite \else
      \edef\reserved@b##1{%
         \def\expandafter\noexpand
            \csname#2\string#1\endcsname####1{%
            \noexpand\@text@composite
 
11:05 AM
@PauloCereda @barbarabeeton @ChristianHupfer Thanks for your help yesterday, I got a look at their error log file and you were absolutely right about the reviewer not knowing what they were talking about
 
@JérémieClos Regarding the pdftex/pdflatex issue?
 
Yeah
Turns out the issue was that they do latex -> ps -> pdf
 
@JérémieClos Oh my .... Even me who was every fond of latex/ps switched to pdflatex in 2009, after many years of \psfrag etc. codes ;-)
 
and it has some issues with an includegraphics somewhere
not solved yet but at least it's more precise than "you need to compile with pdftex"
 
@JérémieClos well, most likely it's the pdf or .jpg format of images that latex chokes on ;-)
 
11:09 AM
it's a png, but that was my guess as well
 
@JérémieClos Ok, I was just lazy and did not mention png as well ;-)
 
yeah that was it, turned it into an eps and it worked
 
@JérémieClos Well, that should blast up the file size of the graphics, shouldn't it? Perhaps it is better, to generate the graphics file right from the start as .eps? (or have both formats?)
 
it's ok they'll survive
next time they should let people know a bit more than 24 hours before the publisher deadline
 
@JérémieClos Reviewers ... what have they ever done for us @PauloCereda ;-)
 
11:15 AM
any idea why the change from latex->pdf to latex->ps->pdf bumped the pagecount from 6 to 7?
 
@JérémieClos No, not really.
 
@JérémieClos either something went wrong or the conversion to eps didn't preserve the size
 
@DavidCarlisle wrong bounding box, perhaps?
 
@ChristianHupfer yes (or wrong interpretation of the effective resolution in the png file or making a pdf that is a whole page or...)
 
maybe, I just did some \vspace voodoo to fix it quickly
maybe the latex gods forgive me
 
11:25 AM
@JérémieClos they are very unforgiving
 
my sins will come back to haunt me eventually
 
@JérémieClos see my quiz above, that is a sin from sometime around 1990 or 1991 that just haunted us today....
 
@JérémieClos NO
 
it had to be done
as a temporary fix, I'll upload a better version later on
sin and \vspace free
 
@JérémieClos You will burn in LaTeX hell ;-)
 
11:32 AM
@JérémieClos NO
 
@PauloCereda It is even worse than pineapples on a pizza :D
 
\[
    pineapple \over pizza
\]
 
@PauloCereda: How do you calculate the volume of a cylinder with radius z and height a?
 
@ChristianHupfer ooh I see what you did there. <3
We ducks are experts on pizzas.
 
@PauloCereda: It 's very easy: V = pi * z* z * a ;-)
@PauloCereda Duck on pizza? A new flavor ... I have to taste it ...
 
11:37 AM
@ChristianHupfer YOU MEAN
 
@PauloCereda I mean ... duck the ... plant not duck ... the duck ....
 
@ChristianHupfer <3
 
@PauloCereda Missing character: There is no ham in font [pizza]
@PauloCereda fix that error and it'll be fine.
 
@DavidCarlisle <3
 
@ChristianHupfer don't let @PauloCereda know about this
 
11:49 AM
@DavidCarlisle oy
 
@DavidCarlisle I won't tell @PauloCereda ;-) It's a secret amongst us both ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer oy
 
@PauloCereda you should not be intercepting private communications
 
@DavidCarlisle oh sorry
DUCK AWAY!
I am back. <3
 
@ChristianHupfer oh he's gone we could post a picture
oops
 
11:50 AM
@PauloCereda: yes, privacy is very nice here in chat -- don't interfere with that ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer You naughty German
 
@ChristianHupfer Too late.
 
@TorbjørnT. :D
@PauloCereda Always at your service to enjoy annoy you ;-)
 
12:07 PM
@StevenB.Segletes I have a very interesting background on Fortran, as I wrote a lexer/parser for it as hobby. :)
 
@PauloCereda I thought writing up a thesis is your hobby? ;-) Now you tell us something about lexer/parsers for a strange language is your hobby.... confused
 
@ChristianHupfer /sob
 
12:29 PM
@PauloCereda: I'll have to leave. I have a meeting with my tax accountant (And no, he has no inclination to become a lion taimer ;-))
 
Anonymous
@DavidCarlisle That's also what I thought. However, here in Taiwan, people seem to think differently. See e.g. at the bottom of ait.org.tw/en (No.7 or No.88, without any spaces).
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah. I managed a pdflatex example: The important point is that there must be an instance for the accent.
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[T2A]{fontenc}
\DeclareTextComposite{\textcommabelow}{T2A}{S}{"021}

\begin{document}
\textcommabelow{x}
\end{document}
 
12:52 PM
@VincentVerheyen it's not wrong (nothing's ever wrong in English, we just make up the rules as we go along:-) but I think it would almost always have a space if written by a native speaker.
@UlrikeFischer nice isn't it:-) here's the original with a proposed fix, not you have to undefine the broken version or the added test to see if it is not defined doesn't work:-) That's only an issue in a patch not if we changed the format
\documentclass{article}

\makeatletter

\def\DeclareTextCompositeCommand#1#2#3#4{%
  \expandafter\let\expandafter\reserved@a
  \csname
%new, was just #2
    \expandafter\ifx\csname#2\string#1\endcsname\relax?%
                \else#2\fi
% end of change
    \string#1%
  \endcsname
  \expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\ifx
  \expandafter\@car\reserved@a\relax\relax\@nil \@text@composite \else
      \edef\reserved@b##1{%
         \def\expandafter\noexpand
            \csname#2\string#1\endcsname####1{%
 
1:34 PM
I downloaded l3kernel and put it on my desktop. Should I put it somewhere else? — nicknock82 2 mins ago
 
@DavidCarlisle A ping to me arrived for your message above, maybe because there is a @car in it! Hahaha
 
@CarLaTeX consider yourself expanded after
 
@DavidCarlisle cccccaaaarrrrrlllllaaaaa
 
@DavidCarlisle my other car is a cdr.
Let us see who gets this nerd joke. :)
 
@PauloCereda I assume the nerdiness comes from the Porsche reference not the lisp one.
 
1:44 PM
@DavidCarlisle I was aiming at Lisp, actually. Theoreticians do not have life...
 
@PauloCereda but can your editor show help like this
caar is a compiled Lisp function in ‘subr.el’.

(caar X)

This function has a compiler macro ‘internal--compiler-macro-cXXr’.

Return the car of the car of X.
 
@DavidCarlisle oooh
 
2:06 PM
@DavidCarlisle Is this an attempt to lure @PauloCereda to the one and only editor? ;-)
 
:35651952
(caar(cddr (list `a `b (list (list `y `e `s) (list `x `y `z)  (list `x `y `z)))))
 
Is this useful?
\usepackage[cp1250]{inputenc} % for Windows?
 
2:27 PM
@wunderbar: Print the code 50 times on a4paper, roll the paper and hit the person who gave you this messy stuff on the head ;-) — Christian Hupfer 5 mins ago
 
@ChristianHupfer it's useful if the file is in that encoding, less useful otherwise.
 
@JérémieClos -- not definitive, but this happens (or used to happen) fairly frequently at the ams, where latex->dvi->ps->pdf is used for the print product, and pdflatex is used directly for the on-line version of an article. hyperref inserts additional "whatsits" sometimes in places where an \addvspacwe needs to see what the previous space was, and the \whatsit prevents that. (cont'd)
(cont'd) here are two questions that address the issue and may provide better answers: Whatsits: when are they used in practice? and Why do user-defined whatsit nodes affect LuaTeX pagebreaking?
 
2:48 PM
@DavidCarlisle Thanks. I am no windows user, but is cp1250 a frequent encoding?
 
@ChristianHupfer Before utf8 I normally used ansinew but "Windows-1250 is a code page used under Microsoft Windows to represent texts in Central European and Eastern European languages that use Latin script, such as Polish, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian, Slovene, Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian (Latin script), Romanian (before 1993 spelling reform) and Albanian. It may also be used with the German language; German-language texts encoded with Windows-1250 and Windows-1252 are identical."
 
@ChristianHupfer standard windows code page for eastern Europe, until they switched to Unicode default.
 
@UlrikeFischer (and @DavidCarlisle) Well, it's Windows related ... then, but thanks for explanation
 
3:18 PM
@ChristianHupfer So long as the document is CP1250 encoded, of course, and the editor knows it. What bothers me is that the user seems to be convinced that if the file is compiled on a Linux box, the comments should be interchanged, which of course is silly.
 
 
1 hour later…
4:35 PM
@egreg I had removed one of the inputenc usages already in my answer.
 
5:27 PM
@DavidCarlisle: we had our own Doris about two hours ago. Spooky!
 
@PauloCereda did she sing?
 
@DavidCarlisle She had high hopes. :)
 
@PauloCereda Que sera, sera
 
@egreg :)
 
 
4 hours later…
9:37 PM
Hallo @TeXnician! How are you?
 
@CarLaTeX A bit TeXy, but just fine. And you?
 
@TeXnician Fine thanks, I've just recovered from a flu!
 
@CarLaTeX And you where active on TeX.SX although ill? Is LaTeX that kind of curing?
 
@TeXnician Hahaha, it's a way to fight against the boredom to have to stay a week end at home!
 
@CarLaTeX Understandable, but who stays at home when told to? The internet is just one click away... And of course, the next LaTeX problem just the half way!
 
9:47 PM
@TeXnician I was too ill to go out! And I'm happy to be TeX.SE addicted: meta.tex.stackexchange.com/q/7184/101651 :):):):)
 
@CarLaTeX I know, I've already liked that thread. But as far as I'm concerned I think that happiness to be addicted should be far more aggressively cured than a fu!
 
@TeXnician Hahahaha don't worry, I'm not at a pathological level! I'm only a beginner... but you are not, are you?
 
@CarLaTeX I'm a freshman when it comes to LaTeX (started about 3, 4 or 5 years ago). And I'm on this site for three weeks now, so I'm not that kind of in danger.
 
@TeXnician You're the best new user! I know of the LaTeX existance for about 7 years but I've used it only for about one year... but I'm well below your level!
 
@CarLaTeX Thanks. Maybe that's related to my LaTeX usage. I was frustrated from MS Word and LO, so I abandoned them and am now living with (nearly) LaTeX only (even as drawing application)! But what's a good user without a great community to learn from?
 
10:03 PM
@TeXnician They oblige me to use MS Word and PowerPoint at work, and every time I cry thinking of how I could do it easily with LaTeX. PPT is a torture for me, I never manage to have things correctly aligned! This is a great community, people here are very kind and friendly!
 
@TeXnician Your progress here in a few weeks is remarkable... ;-) I did not get 2k in a few weeks about three years ago...
@CarLaTeX Don't forget the Free Duck Content ;-)
 
@TeXnician Don't forget to participate at the next: meta.tex.stackexchange.com/q/6914/101651 (@ChristianHupfer :))
 
@CarLaTeX @PauloCereda did not accept my numbers :-(
 
10:18 PM
@ChristianHupfer Noooo it's impossible! He is the kindest man in the world!
 
@CarLaTeX Or I did not understand the rules correctly. -42 and -43 were my favourite numbers ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer Ah... the was a good reason hahaha!
@ChristianHupfer I've also just received the confirmation of my TUG membership (and already voted for @egreg)!
 
@CarLaTeX Did Kevin Chang contact you?
 
@ChristianHupfer Oh, yes!
 
@CarLaTeX Yes, they're quite quick
@PauloCereda: You will be able to watch an annular solar eclipse this weekend, in Brazil.
 
10:28 PM
@ChristianHupfer Very quick, I replied yesterday and today I've received the confirmation!
 
@CarLaTeX I remember similar speed two years ago when I got the confirmation. But I did not vote in the election then -- I found I was too 'fresh' to have a right to vote...
 
@ChristianHupfer I could not help voting for egreg!
@egreg I'll name WOW my next \documentclass!
 
10:56 PM
@CarLaTeX \documentclass[LOL,ROTFL]{WOW}
 
@egreg More laugh into LaTeX!
 
11:14 PM
@UlrikeFischer ^^^ I've just found the title for Professor van Duck's column!
 
@CarLaTeX But "Duckboat" must there be too ...
 
@UlrikeFischer "Duckboat" is the volume, "More laugh into LaTeX" is the first issue :):):):):):)
 
yo'
@egreg I've got a beauty! Are you around, please?
 
11:40 PM
@yo' Yes
 
yo'
@egreg I'll send you an e-mail, you have to see this!
@egreg mail sent!
 
11:53 PM
@yo' Did they test it?
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{beauty}
\begin{document}
$\Assem$

$\Mnnorm{1}{2}$
\end{document}
The test with \Assem is just to see what they were expecting.
 
yo'
@egreg I have no idea. This is a document my colleague is working on, not me.
 
@yo' Hilarious. Physicists are always wanting to classify everything.
 
yo'
@egreg I knew you'd like it :-)
 
@egreg I thought that was biologists
Physicists just want to turn everything into math
 

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