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@egreg and anyway, we don't use Matěj for the disciple, we use Matouš.
00:35
@yo' Tha's from German!
 
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04:04
@barbarabeeton Oh no! Take care! <3 <3 <3
 
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yo'
yo'
06:26
@egreg well, more from Hebrew and Greek :)
 
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07:51
@JosephWright @StefanKottwitz @MartinScharrer tex.stackexchange.com/questions/407244/… The question is unclear, since the real cause of the problem is unknown.The answer just states: Works for me. Any actions to take?
08:18
@egreg I like how James became Tiago for us. :)
Sorry, I meant the other one. :)
08:35
@barbarabeeton Ouch! Living in the home town of freezing rain, I can only sympathise. Been lucky myself so far, despite several bad falls. Good luck with your upcoming convalescence!
08:55
@barbarabeeton Get better soon.
 
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Quack!
11:28
any one by any chance is running texlive in WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) under windows 10? If so, any issues? WSL is basically a Linux which runs along side windows itself. I am thinking of doing this instead of running Virtual box to speed up compiling my tex files. Currently it is very slow compiling with linux under VBox. Here is a link to WSL blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2017/10/11/…
@Nasser I have wondered about doing that but not tried yet, but why not use the native windows texlive? (personally I use cygwin texlive)
@DavidCarlisle because I have all my makefiles and linux scripts and everything setup. Currently I use Linux for all the builds. I suppose I could install texlive on windows. But I am used to using texlive on Linux. I tried cygwin, did not like it, and I do not think it will be as fast as WSL. Between cygwin and VBox, VBox is much better. it is true Linux. So is WSL. One install actual Linux. Not emulation.
I have been compiling tex for last 2 weeks and it is still not finished. About 180 files. They are large. But tex4ht is very slow. 2 weeks, 24 hrs, and still not done.
@Nasser who reads your gigantic files? :-)
some people do :)
@Nasser are you sitting with 4 cores three of them doing nothing for 2 weeks?
@Nasser why not just boot linux directly rather than use a virtual machine or the linux subsystem?
11:40
@DavidCarlisle I am running on VBox. I do not think VBox does mutlicore. The whole VBox runs on one core I think. But either way, the slow part is pdfcrop and converting pdf to SVG images. pdflatex is fast, it is tex4ht which is sooooo slow.
@DavidCarlisle I only have one PC. Running windows 7.
@Nasser yes but why not run linux?
@DavidCarlisle I am running linux? Inside virtual box, hosted on windows. That is what I mean.
@Nasser yes but that is typically very slow compared to booting into linux
I need to use both windows and linux at same time. I have many apps on windows I need.
Here is screen shot on my linux window
@Nasser also how often do your svg images change? surely you don't have to convert them more than once do you?
11:44
It takes like 10 seconds to process one pdf file to svg. I have hundreds of thousands of these. I only convert pdf to SVG once. This is running makefiles. This is first time.
need to convert pdf to SVG since I use svg in tex4ht
@Nasser: is Cygwin an option?
@PauloCereda tried cygwin long time ago. It should be faster than VBox. But now I think I will go buy windows 10 PC and try WSL. Will report if texlive works OK under WSL.
@Nasser are these mathematica plots? or do they involve tex
@DavidCarlisle the PDF files are all images generated from Mathematica. I then convert each PDF to svg, using this script:
@Nasser that operation is trivially parallelisable so if your machine has 8 cores you should be able to make it 8 times faster by just running 8 copies of the conversion script at the same time
11:49
#!/bin/bash
set -u
set -e
set -o pipefail

for file in $1; do
filename=${file%.*}
pdfcrop --margins 10 --clip "$filename.pdf" "$filename.pdf"
/usr/bin/pdf2svg "$filename.pdf" "$filename.svg"
scour -i "$filename.svg" -o x000.svg
mv x000.svg "$filename.svg"
done
@Nasser can't you just get mathematica to write svg rather than pdf and skip the conversion step?
@DavidCarlisle as I said, I do not know if VBOx supports mutlicores. Either way, I do not know how to speed it up. I just start make and check again in one month.
@DavidCarlisle Mathematica does not support SVG actually. It says it does. But it does not. It puts the image as png inside SVG wrapper. Known issue.
@Nasser you said you were thinking of buying a new machine... but it would be quicker to boot to linux do whatever you need to do and then boot back to windows
@Nasser hard to believe that isn't fixable in mathematica code. Are you sure the pdf isn't the same?
@DavidCarlisle But I want to run linux and windows at same time. On same desktop. side by side, like I do now. Share files, etc...
@Nasser is your machibe usable running pdfcrop full time for 2 weeks?
11:52
Mathematica exports PDF just fine. True PDF. But not for SVG. It does not. It calls the file svg, but it is not true SVG.
@DavidCarlisle yes. The PC is running all the time for 2 months now. Do not boot until build is completed.
VBox uses 4 GB RAM. I have 16 GB RAM in total. So it does not affect me at all.
@DavidCarlisle I also forgot to say, I need the PDF files as well as the SVG files. I use pdf files for lualatex and svg for tex4ht. If I can get rid of the conversion of PDF to SVG it will go long way to speed things up.
good night everyone. Will let you know if I install texlive on windows 10 under WSL and see if it works well.
@Nasser so you are doing your most compute intensive activity on a 4GB virtual machine with a single core, that isn't going to be fast.
12:20
@Nasser I tried something here and my Mathematica correctly exported my stuff to SVG...
Pure SVG code.
@DavidCarlisle ^^
13:07
@barbarabeeton something to take your mind off things ^^ :-)
Your Result

8/12

Not bad! Your grasp of grammar is nothing to be ashamed of. Help yourself to an extra large portion of figgy pudding as a reward. And if you're a real glutton for punishment, try our famous Apostrophe Quiz.
@DavidCarlisle ^^
@PauloCereda I got 8 too :-)
@DavidCarlisle ooh
@PauloCereda but I'm English so not expected to know any English Grammar
@DavidCarlisle oh no
@DavidCarlisle Shakespeare was naughty too, he invented words willy nilly. :D
13:29
@PauloCereda Yay, got the same ;)
@TeXnician ooh :)
@PauloCereda My English teacher would have been disappointed ;)
@TeXnician Unless our teacher is @DavidCarlisle :)
14:08
@DavidCarlisle I got 9/12
Fantastic! You are a complete festive grammar ninja! Expect something extra special down your chimney on Christmas morning.
@PauloCereda @TeXnician I was luckier ^^^
@CarLaTeX boo
@PauloCereda but I can't expand all the text of the correct answers of the 2 wrong ones, maybe my smartphone is not so smart :):):)
14:27
@CarLaTeX you win a year's supply of Hawaiian pizza
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@DavidCarlisle :P
15:02
@barbarabeeton Oh no, sorry to hear that! What an unpleasant way to spent Christmas! Get well really soon!
@CarLaTeX Run and get zero score!
@PauloCereda Maybe they should be placed more to the side, too
@egreg LOL
@samcarter Merry Christmas
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15:24
@UlrikeFischer Football ducks! Yummy! LOL
15:43
@UlrikeFischer Oh! They look delicious! Please ask whoever will eat me, how I taste :)
@UlrikeFischer I wish you and your family a merry Christmas!
16:36
Merry Christmas to everyone who cares about Christmas.
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@samcarter: That's a gift from my pupils/student ;-)
@ChristianHupfer Merry Xmas! What a nice gift!
17:06
@ChristianHupfer didn't they forget a T? ;-) Merry Christmas.
@UlrikeFischer No, unfortunately they don't know what TeX is ;-)
17:33
@CarLaTeX Thank you.
18:30
@PauloCereda said "I tried something here and my Mathematica correctly exported my stuff to SVG.." Thanks,. I tried it now on 11.2 and it seems to make true SVG. They must have fixed this. This helps. I can now export SVG directly from Mathematica instead of manually converting PDF to SVG outside. It should be faster!
18:53
(^^^ just found on FB)
19:17
Merry Christmas, everyone!
20:03
@PauloCereda @UlrikeFischer @CarLaTeX Look at this PR for texstudio :) github.com/texstudio-org/texstudio/pull/1/commits/…
@samcarter Ooooh
@CarLaTeX Maybe I should delete my answer to "How to turn off the yellow duck in TeXStudio" - conflict of interests :)
@samcarter LOL
@ChristianHupfer You have really nice pupils!
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*This Holy Christmas can bring with it a lot of happy moments and of sincere serenity to you and eveybody. I always wish you every good and a better new year. I really hope that the translation is understandable. A big hug to everyone and do not be strict with me.*

Sebastiano
@Sebastiano Happy and holy Christmas to you, your family and your wonderful land of Sicily that's always in my heart.

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