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3:20 AM
@DavidCarlisle The template question was asked before and was answered. And i honestly don't know what to answer there.
Don't use templates?
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6:06 AM
@DavidCarlisle By the way, i voted to close for tex.stackexchange.com/questions/396155/…
 
 
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8:30 AM
Have you noticed a lot of crystal ball question this morning?
 
@Johannes_B thanks just wanted to check I hadn't totally misled the OP:-)
 
9:03 AM
Quack!
 
@PauloCereda Quack!
 
@JosephWright ooh another duck :)
 
@PauloCereda Think I'll try out Cuphead, then: I've been playing The Witcher series and am right at the end of the last one. The difficulty shoots up for the very last boss :(
 
@JosephWright Oh. :) I think Cuphead is an interesting game. I recommend a control remap though. :)
 
@PauloCereda Ack
 
9:14 AM
@JosephWright I think the Steam reviews for that game are fantastic. :)
 
@PauloCereda Cool: I'll sort it once I get back to my flat (and thus my gaming PC)
 
@JosephWright Is that an up quack, or a down quack? Or perhaps a strange quack?
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Up quack
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Charmed quack ;)
 
@JosephWright Awesome. :)
 
@PauloCereda Probably laptop would run it too ... it did win 'laptop of the year' in the PC magazine I read :)
 
9:16 AM
@JosephWright Oh that's cool! Your new Dell machine?
 
@PauloCereda Laptop and gaming machine are both Dell (latter is Alienware brand): I have a Dell XPS 13" (2017) laptop
It is very good
 
@JosephWright I imagine so. :) XPS was always my dream, but it's very expensive.
 
@PauloCereda Cost me £1050 from John Lewis (well-know high street department store)
@PauloCereda Apple MacBook Pro would have been more even with the academic discount
 
@JosephWright MacBooks are definitely out of my league. A rough conversion tells me around £3500
 
@PauloCereda WOW!
@PauloCereda MacBook Pro starts at £1400, which I get 15% off as I work at a university
 
9:25 AM
@JosephWright Welcome to Brazil. :( Things are really expensive around here. And worst of all, we pay for obsolete hardware.
@JosephWright No discount for us, specially ducks. :)
 
@JosephWright Wow, surprisingly good! :) Trivia: Rio de Janeiro was once the capital of Brazil, and if you come to Brazil for TUG, you will probably enter the country through Rio Grande do Norte. :)
 
@PauloCereda :)
@PauloCereda Nephew loves these videos
 
@JosephWright how nice!
 
@PauloCereda Can get a bit repetitive after a while ...
 
9:40 AM
@JosephWright :D
@JosephWright: this is probably not suitable for kids:
:D
 
@PauloCereda There are a lot of these videos
 
10:04 AM
@JosephWright ^^ :)
 
@PauloCereda Do you know what a student of German once said? “I would rather decline two drinks than one German adjective” (Mark Twain)
 
@egreg LOL
 
10:35 AM
@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle @egreg Does anybody want to write an answer that package updates happen? latex.org/forum/…
There is a chance that a Poltergeist i messing with your LaTeX installation. Garlic or the excessive use of \newline does not help.
 
 
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12:32 PM
Back from the mass!
 
1:01 PM
Come to the Dark Side - we have waffles! #StarWars Death Star Waffle Maker: http://bit.ly/2vUn4ph
@ChristianHupfer ^^
 
@PauloCereda Nom nom nom
 
@JosephWright I never had waffles... :(
 
@Johannes_B Shooting a silver bullet to the computer doesn't help either
 
@egreg :-)
 
1:21 PM
@PauloCereda A bit of searching the ´net reveals that duck and waffle is a culinary thing. I could not find a single example of waffles with live ducks! So you'd better stay away from waffles, for your own health (mental and physical).
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen oh no
@HaraldHanche-Olsen I think @DavidCarlisle will post something along those lines sooner or later. :)
 
@CarLaTeX wow
 
Trying out Gitkraken ...
 
@JosephWright oh
 
1:35 PM
@PauloCereda Reasons will become clear shortly: team list 'stuff'
 
@JosephWright ah
 
1:53 PM
@JosephWright Hadn't heard of it before. Looks interesting.
 
2:18 PM
@PauloCereda Want some ..... Where is the Tie - Fighter Waffle Maker then? I'll give you my address to which you can ship the Waffle Makers ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer I will not buy this address, it's scratched. :)
 
@PauloCereda Naughty Duck
 
@ChristianHupfer oi
 
@PauloCereda <3 ... I just wanted to annoi you :-P
 
@ChristianHupfer ooh <3
 
2:31 PM
@PauloCereda What's the state of your ... .... ah, yes, thesis? ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer it's... going :)
 
@PauloCereda ... away? ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer somewhere. :)
 
@PauloCereda Ah, there ... at somewhere ;-)
 
3:15 PM
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Yes, looks good (though I'm happy with the CLI)
 
 
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4:30 PM
@DavidCarlisle with plan c code this would work too: tex.stackexchange.com/a/396327/2388.
 
4:57 PM
@JosephWright Me too. I am using magit more now, but always revert to CLI git when I don't know how to do something with magit.
 
 
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7:19 PM
@UlrikeFischer yes I'll try to get some code running (done nothing this weekend just got back from parents)
 
@DavidCarlisle Actually in this case \TextOrMath instead of \ifmmode seems to work fine.
 
@UlrikeFischer yes robust commands have a relax specifically so they work at start of table cells
 
7:37 PM
@DavidCarlisle Yes but it seems that is doesn't disturb the kerning either. So somehow the \relax disappears.
 
@UlrikeFischer oh lied that's why!
 
@DavidCarlisle lied??
 
@UlrikeFischer it must be @JosephWright's influence, it uses one of those new fangled \protected\def
@UlrikeFischer vvv
\expandafter\ifx\csname protected\endcsname\relax
\DeclareRobustCommand\TextOrMath{%
  \ifmmode  \expandafter\@secondoftwo
  \else     \expandafter\@firstoftwo  \fi}
\protected@edef\TextOrMath#1#2{\TextOrMath{#1}{#2}}
\else
\protected\expandafter\def\csname TextOrMath\space\endcsname{%
  \ifmmode  \expandafter\@secondoftwo
  \else     \expandafter\@firstoftwo  \fi}
\edef\TextOrMath#1#2{%
  \expandafter\noexpand\csname TextOrMath\space\endcsname
  {#1}{#2}}
\fi
@UlrikeFischer so no \relax
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes I had seen this. But what does "oh lied" mean? (I mean the english)
 
@UlrikeFischer it means I didn't tell the truth (although it is not that polite to call an accidental untruth a "lie" but no one is polite to me here:-)
@UlrikeFischer also of course my typing is rubbish,, I meant to type "Oh I lied" :-)
 
7:45 PM
@DavidCarlisle Aaah ;-)
 
8:13 PM
@DavidCarlisle It's all my fault?
@DavidCarlisle We could simplify that ;)
 
@JosephWright It may have been me: if you had done it you wouldn't have added the guard for classic tex:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Sounds about right
 
@JosephWright As you are reading xcolor, you could try this file samplered.tex and compiling it with latex samplered && dvips samplered -o && ps2pdf samplered.ps
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{xcolor}

\definecolor[named]{ACMRed}{cmyk}{0,0.90,0.86,0}

\begin{document}

\textcolor{ACMRed}{XYZ}

\end{document}
 
@UlrikeFischer (@JosephWright) my guess was right. look what svn blame says:
  1246     joseph \expandafter\ifx\csname protected\endcsname\relax
 
@egreg Oops
@egreg Remember I'm just picking up ideas [see Git/SVN ;)]
 
yo'
8:24 PM
@ChristianHupfer that word looks French, I almost here the froggy accent saying: "we ah-re hearre jyst tzoo annu-ah yu"
 
@JosephWright It seems ps2pdf (that is, Ghostscript) doesn't like how color specials related to CMYK are written to the .ps file by dvips.
 
@egreg Could well be
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{color}


\begin{document}

\textcolor[cmyk]{0,0.90,0.86,0}{XYZ}

\end{document}
@egreg ^^ is OK though
 
@JosephWright The ps file has
%%Page: 1 1
TeXDict begin 1 0 bop 0 TeXcolorgray Black 0 TeXcolorgray
XC@ACMRed 639 523 a Fa(XYZ)p 0 TeXcolorgray 0 TeXcolorgray
1926 5255 a(1)p 0 TeXcolorgray eop end
%%Trailer
 
@egreg Looks odd
@egreg Must be an xcolor issue somewhere I guess
 
@egreg @JosephWright I think the [named] type needs \usepackage[prologue]{xcolor} (but I never really understood what named exactly does).
 
8:38 PM
@UlrikeFischer Ah, yes: it creates an additional .pro file on-the-fly
 
in the original version at least you couldn't really define the names as they were just put into the ps file as literals assumed to be defined.
 
@yo' I know that it looks like a French word ;-)
 
@UlrikeFischer Interesting! I don't really know what's the idea of doing \definecolor[named]...
 
Today USA, tomorrow Brazil and Italy?
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
8:47 PM
@JosephWright they'd probably beat us:(
 
@DavidCarlisle Could well be
 
@egreg Actually the documentation explains it quite good (on page 18) and together with your example and @JosephWright's remark it now make sense. But I wonder if xcolor shouldn't catch the case that [named] is used without prologue.
 
@UlrikeFischer Possibly should
 
9:29 PM
@UlrikeFischer Possibly xcolor should do it, but at least adding prologue is not that hard. See github.com/borisveytsman/acmart/issues/257
@JosephWright My impression is that feature requests for xcolor are out of the question.
 
@egreg Could well be
 
 
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11:09 PM
@DavidCarlisle I am very kind to you. 🇬🇧
@DavidCarlisle Win: another triumph for Great Britain. / Lose: England loses again!
@JosephWright we can blame Frank any time. :)
 

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